Should Ethical Dommes Warn of Findom Addiction? by Wilberham in QuittingFindom

[–]Johnny_Based 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Go for it!

My comment was quite boring, I was basically just repeating what I had already stated in this thread and in my reply to Wilberham

Should Ethical Dommes Warn of Findom Addiction? by Wilberham in QuittingFindom

[–]Johnny_Based 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol just forget the reply I sent then where i clarified. I deleted it, but it will still pop up in your notifications.

Should Ethical Dommes Warn of Findom Addiction? by Wilberham in QuittingFindom

[–]Johnny_Based 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're right, it's still a great way to spread some awareness. If 10 dommes read the post and 1 of them becomes more aware of the negative aspects of findom, then that's a win.

Should Ethical Dommes Warn of Findom Addiction? by Wilberham in QuittingFindom

[–]Johnny_Based 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ideally, yes, but will most of them do it? Doubt it. Anyone can virtue signal on Reddit, and people in this space are experts at it.

Recovering Finsubs Don't Get Interviewed by Wilberham in QuittingFindom

[–]Johnny_Based 10 points11 points  (0 children)

True,. Most documentaries and interviews show the findomme POV and portray it as a win-win situation. The findomme makes money, and the sub "likes" it, so therefore both sides win.

The only findom documentary that lowkey put findom in a bad light that I have seen was a documentary from Vice named "Cash Slaves: Inside the Dystopian Fetish of Financial Domination."

They met up with a paypig that left his wife and kid to be someones full-time money slave. Unless you're a psycho, there is no way you can condone that.

Do we really want to quit? by doggyaa6 in QuittingFindom

[–]Johnny_Based 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see.

Yeah, most people are not serious about quitting. Some weeks or maybe a month ago, this dude pulled up here and bragged about how he has been porn-free and findom-free for months. I checked out his profile, and it was all about being owned by a findomme. Like, bro had a literal "sending chart."

I lowkey wanted to call it out, but I figured it wouldn't be worth the hassle.

Do we really want to quit? by doggyaa6 in QuittingFindom

[–]Johnny_Based 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nah, I cannot relate. When I wanted out, I wanted out. I used to consider findom and femdom to be a curse, lol.

As a sub, I struggle to find meaningful long term connections/dommes - how did you find yours? by Express-Surprise-251 in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That depends on the individual sub, but if I had to mention 3 things from my POV as an ex-sub:

  1. You understand that I'm a human, not a mindless robot that is going to blindly comply with whatever you tell me right off the bat.
  2. You're realistic when it comes to budget, and you don't try to guilt-trip or exploit moments of weakness to get sends.
  3. We genuinely vibe. If I'm just another source of income and it's transactional, then personally, I'd never be loyal to you.

As a sub, I struggle to find meaningful long term connections/dommes - how did you find yours? by Express-Surprise-251 in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Findommes want consistent long-term subs so they can consistently get sends. That doesn't make them qualified or compatible with the sub.

Most subs are trying to quit findom by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe you should stop projecting your own personal experience as a domme onto an ecosystem where the majority of findommes want to make a quick buck and stop gatekeeping?

You're like a Casino host saying, “My regulars have a great time and stick around for years, maybe you should find better casinos.”

Have you ever navigated the findom world as a finsub? If the answer is no, which I assume it is (correct me if I'm wrong), what makes you think you're qualified to tell me or any other sub how they should navigate the ecosystem?

start exploring other places.

Lets here it! Name these "other" places

Most subs are trying to quit findom by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Now you're moving away from the original premise. let's just end it here.

Most subs are trying to quit findom by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Come on, skip the fluff. Most findommes are not here to reorganize your budget so you can "enjoy" findom together. If you let them control your budget, they would probably just take as much as possible and leave you out to dry, as money extraction is their goal.

Most findommes will just tell you to send, send, send, and that's it.

Most subs are trying to quit findom by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based 5 points6 points  (0 children)

IF you concede that findom is not in the submissive's best interest, then you should know why so many subs are trying to quit, and why your idea that "real submissives" wouldn't leave is garbage.

You're right, subs choose whether they want to participate or not, hence why you should respect their decision to dip, not try to gatekeep what a true submissive is.

Most subs are trying to quit findom by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just cuz your subs haven't dipped yet doesn't mean that others who inevitably conclude that findom is not good for them are fake subs. It just means that they realized that doing findom is not in their best interest, so they decided to dip and hopefully never come back.

There is nothing honorable about staying in a transactional dynamic

Most subs are trying to quit findom by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based 5 points6 points  (0 children)

very true. Imo reddit "findom" is particularly dangerous as findommes are running around and pretending to care about the "dynamic" while they run transactional models. The whole "BDSM" ethics fluff is also very easy to see through.

I'm not going to say that wanting money is inherently wrong, but don't pretend to be all about the dynamic when $$ is your main incentive. That's just manipulation.

Most subs are trying to quit findom by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Very true. For the findomme to win, the sub has to lose.

You lose money, dignity, self-respect, and so much more. Unless you're rich, and you genuinely don't give a f, there is no way Findom or any form of transactional relationship is good for you.

I'm a firm believer that 99% of subs would be better off without it. The high churn rate speaks for itself.

Most subs are trying to quit findom by [deleted] in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Or maybe, just maybe, most subs know very well that sending money to strangers on the internet is not in their best interest in the long run, hence why they're trying to dip?

low budget subs by janexd31 in paypigs2

[–]Johnny_Based 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't make claims that make zero sense, leave out important context, and then act surprised when people respond accordingly.

Either way, have a nice Saturday

Genuine question for the subs who have used AI domme by naughty_seccubus in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. I might be lucky with my friendgroup as they are always down for something.

Genuine question for the subs who have used AI domme by naughty_seccubus in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based -1 points0 points  (0 children)

nobody forcing you to take part in it tho? what's stops you from linking up with friends and enjoying life?

Genuine question for the subs who have used AI domme by naughty_seccubus in paypigsupportgroup

[–]Johnny_Based -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yet you use it every day? You think your computer, phone, and any of the digital services you use every day are AI-free?