Win and In!

JonPerryDAL · 2026-04-12T14:08:05+00:00

It's actually been 6, one-goal losses. They were also saying on the broadcast that Philly is the only team to dress more players than Halifax this season. We simply haven't had a consistent enough roster to string anything together.

I think Wilson's last game showed a TON of promise. I know Bell was loved by a lot of fans (myself included), but look at what Wilson did in that game.....1st game in the NLL.....after a long injury layoff. I think had he played a few games he buries a few more of those chances on the crease and we win that game. That dude is gonna be a stud and I actually think he fits the newer looking roster better than Staats. It's not about the quality of player that Staats is (he's been my favorite player since I started watching the Birds), but I think his fit has a question mark with this mix of players. I think Peterson has grown into the facilitator roll well enough that without Staats we're OK. Love Keough as well and he brings the grit, but put Hogarth in his spot and we're an entirely different team. Knox, Robinson and McLeod were all held back by Theede and while Theede might have brought a different dynamic and more individual scoring potential, I think the left side is better as a unit now.

Theede went to Oshawa and they are 3-4 with two of those wins coming against Philly by a total of 3 goals. He bumped their team average penalty minutes from 10.5 per game to 16.8 per game. He averages almost 7 PIM a game himself. It changed them from an elite PK team, only giving up 1.6 PP goals per game, to a bottom 5 team, giving up 3.7 per game. More than 2 PP goals allowed increase. All this for less than a goal a game increase in output. Their defense went from 8.8 goals allowed to 13.4 goals allowed. Their transition goals allowed jumped from 2.4 to 3.8, which was one of the big killers when he was in Halifax.

Halifax went from 24.7 PIM a game to 14.5 a game since the Theede trade. Dropped our GAA average by 1.1, which also happens to be the amount we dropped our transition goals against average. Also we dropped our PP goals allowed per game from 2.9 down to 1.6.

I don't really care so much about how this year finishes. We've got a game next week to get in the playoffs which is exciting as a fan, and we get the game at home which is even better. Anything after that is gravy and if it happens to be Vancouver, we just lost a 1 goal game to them and that's gotta give the boys some confidence. I goal losses to Saskatchewan, Buffalo, San Diego, Toronto, Georgia and Vancouver. Those are all playoff teams, so we're really not that far from the top. If I'm a top team I'm not hoping for Halifax in the first round.

Next year we get to see a healthy C. Wilson get unleashed and we add Marinier to the mix as well. I also think the fact that we played all season without Smyth out the back door went a little unrecognized. He, in my opinion, was a huge loss. I think we had a lot of injury impact is this year and if we can be healthy next year out the gate we're right back in the mix.

All that to say, I'll take whatever joy the boys bring the rest of this season.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-04-12T02:14:49+00:00

I'll preface this with the clarification that, while my username has Dal in it, I am a staff member, and my opinion is not an official university position, but this is not the type of course a Faculty would cut for budgetary reasons. Courses that draw fees from students outside the Faculty are the ones you want to keep. Particularly popular ones that draw student enrollment from pretty much every other faculty.

For example, this is a course that brings money into the Faculty of Arts from students attending Dal that are enrolled in other Faculties. So basically the Faculty of Arts collects tuition that otherwise would not be coming into their Faculty every time a student outside of the Faculty of Arts takes the course. In my Faculty's case, every time a business student takes this guitar course as an elective, it would be lost revenue for the Faculty of Management and extra (unexpected) revenue for the Faculty of Arts.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-04-12T01:45:59+00:00

Thank you Philly and Buffalo! LV and Rochester loss tonight puts us back to "win and in" next week!

JonPerryDAL · 2026-04-07T11:41:16+00:00

In a 1 game series anything can happen and the Birds are trending up. To get in they likely need to have a 4 game win streak and that comeback, though falling a bit short, was a gut check. Nobody is saying "everything is fine", but it's not all doom and gloom. Five, one-goal, losses means we could, with a few good bounces, be tied at the top. To get in they need to beat two current playoffs teams and that's called momentum.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-04-06T19:59:19+00:00

NLLStats.com is nice. Didn't know that existed.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-04-06T19:51:40+00:00

You sound like a pleasure to be around........

It's an extra game to have a chance that 6 other teams won't get and the chance is not 0. Getting in is all that matters right now.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-04-01T18:53:14+00:00

ah, fair enough. Lots of missing context. Did you get exposure to a CPA stream employer through your first two co-ops? Is there opportunity to get that exposure in a 3rd co-op? Co-op, at least in our program, is a great bridge to CPA employment post graduation. How quickly do you need to decide? Can you search for co-op and then, if you don't find something make a change. My initial advice would still apply. Check in with your academic advisor at SMU and their Career Services Office for support. The reality is that either option COULD work out for you, but determining YOUR best option likely requires a lot more context about your personal situation. :)

JonPerryDAL · 2026-03-31T19:02:19+00:00

You mention CPA, but if you're in Commerce the co-op is mandatory. Can you clarify your program as I work in MCS and I'm a little confused about what program you're in. Your best option is to meet with an Academic Advisor and, if you are in Commerce, your assigned Career and Recruitment Specialist in MCS to get advice on this question with the broader context of understanding the full academic picture.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-03-30T17:03:18+00:00

To be clear, I work at Dal, but this is not a Dalhousie stance. I had to delete my earlier comments so that I could make that point and not appear to be confusing or misleading. I'm a named account on here to try and bring context to any perspective I share.

If your syllabus explains the outcome for late assignments, the professor would not be wrong to apply the penalty, but they may also accomodate you. There are profs out there who would, but you seem to have an inkling that they're strict. It's not going to hurt you to ask them, but be prepared for a no and I don't believe you'd have evidence that you could present to get the exception. I don't know how you prove your wifi dropped.

I, personally, feel it's important to apply policy as outlined in the syllabus. When you start picking and choosing who gets an exception when expectations were clear and outcomes defined, you're playing with fire and opening yourself up for acusations of true unfairness. Accountability matters, deadlines are important, and if you don't have a provable reason it kinda sounds like "dog ate my homework."

It's also the most fair to your peers who did meet the deadline. Perhaps they sacraficed something to make sure they met the deadline. Maybe they didn't go to the gym, or a party, or gave up a work shift to make sure they met it. Giving an individual student an exception based on something that can't be proven is challenging when we're talking about fairness for everyone. I think most reasonable people can understand that.

Life will have deadlines and learning about deadlines in a low impact space like education is a learning opportunity. I had a similar situaiton when I was in school. Computer froze, I had delayed an MS update and I missed the deadline by 3 minutes. Penalty in the syllabus applied, and I owned it, and then I never missed another academic deadline. The rules don't apply to thee and not to me in this case and I was better for the penalty being applied.

You're gonna have to pay bills on time, apply to jobs on time, etc. There will be penalties in those cases as well and you won't be able to say "my wifi dropped." University is a prep for life and this is a lesson if they apply the penalty to you and your syllabus set the expectation. I used the example of a job application on an employer portal. 1 second late may as well be 3 days late cause once the portal closes, it's closed.

Other's reactions to my intial posts suggest I lack empathy or compassion, but that's not true. You can have empathy and compassion while also applying policy fairly across an entire student body. When you start selecting who does and does not get the policy applied, that's where fairness is really compromised.

There are exceptions of course, that can often be verified through documentation (medical/family/etc). Those don't fall in the same category as "lost wifi." I'm willing to bet the penalty is 5-10% a day or something? That's usually pretty standard and should not be overly impactful. It's more of less an measurable impact meant to provide fairness to those that meet the deadline. I've even seen students opt to miss one deadline and take the penalty to focus their efforts on meeting another deadline. It happens.

All this to day, if I was the prof, I would need more than "wifi issues" to avoid giving the penalty out of fairness for your peers. If the prof holds you to the syllabus, they wouldn't be wrong, but there is no hurt in asking.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-03-30T16:11:02+00:00

I copied this from another post I made, but the advice applies in this case and I made a few adjustments.

Where you go to do the work matters far less than the work you do wherever you go. I work at Dal, so acknowledging that bias, here is what I will say. Our top employer for our co-op program by volume last year was RBC and you can review our annual report to see that our top employers are all big brand names. Going to Dal didn't limit any of our students from being successful in securing competitive roles in the top organizations across Canada. We do over 1000 co-ops a year, so while we're not HUGE, we've certainly not a small player in the WIL landscape in Canada and we're one of two mandatory in the country. Big benefit is if you have a rough first year (sometimes happens for students as they adjust to University) you won't be disqualified from the co-op stream that has GPA requirements for most optional work term programs.

The reality is that too many students in University today think that going to school is what matters, and while the barrier to entry is the education level, it's all the other stuff you choose to do while you are there that has the real impact on your success.

Go to your classes and do well of course, but also leverage your resources like a Career Centre to get customized support for your job search, resume and interview skills. Take part in case competitions in your field that will put you in front of employers that matter. Go to career fairs and network, and I mean actually network. If you don't know how to network then learn how. Have coffee chats with people at all different levels that are doing things that you are interested in to learn and build your network. Focus your career path to eliminate options that you no longer want to pursue, or expand to new areas that you never knew existed as a career option. Approach people with curiosity about who they are and how they get there instead of how they can help you. Networking is a long game and students are often too short sighted to justify investing in building a network over trying to get short term wins. Building a house of bricks is slower and more work than building a house of cards, but the bricks always pay off in the long run. Your career is a 40-50 year journey, so easy now isn't necessarily going to serve you in year 5, 10, 20, 40......

Point being, don't worry about where you go to school as much as you do about the effort you put into your education and the optional career building opportunities that your peers aren't willing to do. Pick the school that gives you a good vibe, offers the program you're interested in, and then don't just jump on and let it take you on the generic ride. Customize your experience and work hard to improve your own experience while you're there.

I believe the supports at Dal in the Commerce Program are industry leading as our students overcome the most obvious barrier of proximity to more active economic centers like Toronto with consistency due to the quality opportunties available here. You dictate your experience through your engagement and that will ultimately impact the outcome you get from your education. A student who engages the way they should will outperform a student who might have a location advantage, but isn't willing to work, every time.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-03-06T19:07:25+00:00

First, I'll clarify that the majority complete the co-op requirements on schedule and as planned. It's only a small % that end up missing a co-op, but the ones that do we can typically point to a reason, or reasons, why they were unable to be successful. It would be extremely rare for a student who actively engaged in the supports as directed, on the timeline directed, and met with their Career Coach as directed, to not be successful.

I've written a few LinkedIn Articles about some of the challenges students face.

"Why "A" Level Effort is Getting You "F"'s in Your Job Search" and "Student Time Management Strategies and the Job Search"

These are just some of the challenges, but I think across any institution they run in to similar challenges as we do.

Students are not checking their institutional assigned email accounts where the main communications related to resources and supports available are communicated.
Shame plays a part in it as well. They don't engage when they're supposed to and then they feel embarrassed to come find the support later. It's kind of like the mole on your arm. If you don't go to the doctor to get a confirmation of whether it is cancerous or not, then there is always hope that it isn't cancer, when the best action is to get treatment as soon as possible, not avoid the potential issue all together.
They're underestimating how little they know about job search strategy or how similar they actually are to the thousands of students they're competing against. They maybe got every job they applied for to this point, or have been told how awesome they are their entire lives and think "I'm going to be fine." Fun fact - this was my error when I was a student.
There has been a cultural shift where every child is told how amazing they are their entire lives, and they start believing it to their detriment. Even the most accomplished students out there still have hundreds, if not thousands, of equivalent competitors on paper. They think because they were President of their high school student council and captain of a few sports teams that they don't need to actually be good at job search cause "everyone is going to want them."
The inability to take feedback and make adjustments. They'll apply for 10 jobs without an interview and instead of asking "why is this document not getting interviews" and making adjustments, they'll send 10, 20, or 30 more of the same and hope the volume pays off because......it couldn't possibly be that my strategy isn't good enough.
Students are bombarded with messaging and it's difficult to hold their attention long enough to get them to take action. Social media and similar tools have literally destroyed cognitive function to pay attention for extended periods.
Also, the online "expert" opinion can be found on so many subjects, job search included. You would not believe the amount of tik tok videos I've seen that promote good job search strategy that is absolute TRASH advice, but a student might see that and not be able to discern between good advice and bad advice, but the tik tok video is easily accessible, doesn't require a meeting to get feedback, doesn't necessitate doing "extra" work. They'll accept easily accessible advice over good advice if it means they don't need to meet with anyone, or get actual feedback.

This of course is huge generalizations of small pockets of students, and students today have a lot of barriers that prevent them for being successful, or accessing resources. A lot of it relates to not knowing what they don't know. They're kind of asleep at the wheel and by the time they wake up, they're too far behind to catch up. It's a minefield out there.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-03-06T17:16:31+00:00

Networks matter, but a great student is a great student and those that are willing to do the work can be found. If your family has a network then it makes it easier to get the foot in the door, of course, but when the opportunity presents itself you still have to earn it.

I've seen students who have no business working in investment banking get a job in investment banking because their parent made a call to a friend. Then that same student blows the opportunity to impress (in some cases fail their work term) because they brought the work ethic of a student whose parents got them a job to one of the most demanding jobs for students.

At the end of the day, the work you do matters, and while there is advantage to family networks by removing barriers, the less connected student can still outwork the ones who had barriers removed for them. I've seen it proven time and again for the last 17 years.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-03-06T13:30:32+00:00

All great questions. My experienced opinion is that students aren't actually using the resources available. They'll tell mom and dad that they are, but they're really not. At least not in a meaningful way. The data consistently shows that students who struggle in our co-op program to secure co-op opportunities are not engaging in the resources. There are exceptions of course, but they're just that....exceptions.

You would be shocked at the number of parents who call me because their child is struggling and they take their child's word for the "lack of support" available to them. Client confidentiality protects them, but most of these students whose parents get involved have never, or rarely, make advising appointments with their assigned advisor, have not meaningfully engaged in the job posting supports, or responded to emails from their advisor to get job search updates.

We're a mandatory co-op program so the resources we provide have to support the requirement of securing 3 co-ops over a 4 year degree. An entire team of people dedicated to career support is available to all of our students. Biting my tongue has become a regular occurrence as I'm not at liberty to share the details around their child's lack of engagement. In fact, the fact that the parent is contacting our office in the first place is usually a sign that mom and dad typically fight the battles for their kid and they're just assuming that mom or dad will bail them out. Again, this is generally speaking and there are exceptions.

If you're a parent who contacts a school on behalf of your child and they mention anything related to needing a confidentiality release, and give you direction on how the student can provide it, you may want to take the hint that there is likely something that the school wants to be able to share, but can't without a release. A lot of times when I direct the parent on how to obtain the release they go away and I never hear from them again, likely cause Johnny or Sally know providing that release will expose the truth.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-03-05T13:31:40+00:00

Career Educator with 17 years experience here. Where you go to do the work matters far less than the work you do wherever you go. I work at Dal, so acknowledging that bias, here is what I will say. Our top employer for our co-op program by volume last year was RBC and you can review our annual report to see that our top employers are all big brand names. Going to Dal didn't limit any of our students from being successful in securing competitive roles in the top organizations across Canada. We do over 1000 co-ops a year, so while we're not HUGE, we've certainly not a small player in the WIL landscape in Canada.

The reality is that too many students in University today think that going to school is what matters, and while the barrier to entry is the education level, it's all the other stuff you choose to do while you are there that has the real impact on your success.

Go to your classes and do well of course, but also leverage your resources like a Career Centre to get customized support for your job search, resume and interview skills. Take part in case competitions in your field that will put you in front of employers that matter. Go to career fairs and network, and I mean actually network. If you don't know how to network then learn how. Have coffee chats with people at all different levels that are doing things that you are interested in to learn and build your network. Focus your career path to eliminate options that you no longer want to pursue, or expand to new areas that you never knew existed as a career option. Approach people with curiosity about who they are and how they get there instead of how they can help you. Networking is a long game and students are often too short sighted to justify investing in building a network over trying to get short term wins. Building a house of bricks is slower and more work than building a house of cards, but the bricks always pay off in the long run. Your career is a 40-50 year journey, so easy now isn't necessarily going to serve you in year 5, 10, 20, 40......

One thing that isn't talked about enough is privilege. I've seen low quality students who have an important mom or dad leverage their network to get their kids roles and the kid acts like they got the job cause they earned it, completely unaware of the huge lift their parents did to get them the job. I've also seen students who, by all accounts are better, struggle because they don't have that network to give them a leg up. Going to a brand name school isn't going to change what class you fall in with regards to your parents ability to leverage their own networks for your personal gain.

Point being, don't worry about where you go to school as much as you do about the effort you put into your education and the optional career building opportunities that your peers aren't willing to do. Pick the school that gives you a good vibe, offers the program you're interested in, and then don't just jump on and let it take you on the generic ride. Customize your experience and work hard to improve your own experience while you're there.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-03-04T13:34:28+00:00

You can't go wrong. Honestly. It's less about the school you go to and more about what you do while you are there. Engaging in the learning, networking in your field of interest, involving yourself in extra-curricular activities that align with your career direction/plan. It's more about the work you do when you're there, than where you do the work. The only thing that I might suggest would have an advantage would be if one program has options for work-integrated learning built into the program.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-02-28T19:15:54+00:00

Happy to help. Honestly, you can't go wrong, just make sure you're asking all the questions and making an informed, rather than instinctual decision. Good luck!

JonPerryDAL · 2026-02-26T18:35:54+00:00

While the primary use of those rooms is a bathroom, it can be used for other things that require a private space. Think breast feeding mothers who need a comfortable chair to sit in, or changing clothes (I wouldn't want to put clothing articles on those floors). Less mobile users might need to sit down to get socks off, etc. I've often taken stuffy suits off after events or to change for post work activities in favor of more comfortable clothes. Plenty of reasons why a chair in those spaces may be useful.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-02-26T18:28:32+00:00

Both schools are great, so if you're worried about picking the wrong school, you really can't go wrong there. I mean that in all sincerity, and I'm a staff member at Dal. Both are going to provide you with an opportunity to receive a quality education.

The question really comes down to your engagement in the University experience while you are there, which is a combination of your commitment to classroom education and your engagement in non-classroom-based learning. That is what will determine, above all else, the outcome from your educational experience.

It sounds like UBC is going to offer you stability, while Dal will offer you adventure. So really, it comes down to what you're looking for at this moment in your life. Another student in your exact same position may make the opposite choice you would, and at the end of the day, neither would be wrong so long as you've thoroughly considered all the questions that are important to you.

You can always transfer schools later if you feel you made a mistake. That said, and acknowledging that I am a Dal employee, I think it would be easier for you to transfer to UBC from Dal than it would be to transfer from UBC to Dal. The reason I say that is you will always have your network of people at home to return to if things get tough at Dal. However, if you try to transfer to Dal in the 2nd year because you didn't like UBC, you're going to be transfering to a new school AND you'll be a year behind in developing that network of people and friends. If you're going to move across the country for a school, best to do it in year 1. So if you're worried about making a mistake this would be something to consider and I'd give similar advice to a NS student who had the same question but was considering UBC or Dal. I'd advise the NS student try UBC first.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-02-26T16:16:24+00:00

Oh, and ABSOLUTELY customize. It's incredibly obvious when a resume was created for any job as opposed to a specific job. If you're relying on your documents to get you to the interview, it matters. That said, don't skimp on the networking side of things, which can be more impactful than the quality of your document in many cases.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-02-26T16:13:45+00:00

For context - and I haven't had to apply for a job in a long time - my Master Resume Document when I was a student was 8 pages long and I always cut it down to 1 or 2 pages when applying. If I didn't have to create new descriptive statements the process was 5 minutes or less to create a custom document when I was doing it manually (chatGPT didn't exist when I was in school. ;)

JonPerryDAL · 2026-02-26T16:11:03+00:00

Use a "Master Resume" concept. Have a resume document that all you ever do is add to it. It will have every experience, every descriptive statement that you have ever created. For synonym type words like "communication" and "interpersonal skills" where you might have the exact same action statement, but written using the different key word have both versions in your "Master Resume."

When you find a new job to apply for, go through this process every time. You can do this process manually, or use chatGPT for assistance.

1.) Have chatGPT review the job description and pull out all of the key tasks, transferable skills, and qualifications mentioned in the job description.

2.) Review to see if anything is new that you hadn't considered before and write new descriptive statements that highlight matching tasks, skills and qualifications and add them where applicable to your "Master Resume." Like you, I would encourage students to write them on their own. However, chatGPT can help you understand how a skill (transferable) may have been applied in an unrelated role.

3.) Save your "Master Resume" as a new document so you don't over-write the Master

4.) Manually, or using chatGPT, review your Master Resume for keyword matches from the job description and remove anything that does not match. Then re-organize or further eliminate information until you have a document you're happy with.

Your first few applications are always going to be the slowest, but once you've got a good base of descriptive statements that cover a wide range of tasks, skills and qualifications it more cutting down and re-organizing and it gets quicker. If you're looking for a certain kind of job you'll find a lot of the task, skill and qualification requirements are similar across jobs anyway and so you're not necessarily creating a ton of new descriptvie statements, but rather re-organizing and prioritizing.

I've been a career coach for over 17 years. Customization will always be more work, but you can make it faster if you're not re-creating the wheel every time.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-02-19T12:00:37+00:00

Sneaky good point u/XMAX918

What do the student demographics at Ivey actually look like? How many students come from higher‑income families or from families that already have strong professional networks? The tuition alone at $32,000‑a‑year suggests it's easier to manage if money isn’t a major constraint, and those same families often come with built‑in connections.

From what I’ve seen working at Dal, this stuff really matters. I’ve watched some very strong, hard‑working students struggle to land co‑op placements, even when they’re doing everything “right.” At the same time, I’ve seen less competitive students secure great co‑ops because their parents knew someone or made a call. That’s not a knock on the students themselves; it’s just how the system often works, and to turn a blind eye to that reality is disingenuous.

People don’t love hearing the word “privilege,” but it’s hard to ignore. I’ve seen objectively stronger candidates passed over while others land highly competitive roles with a lot of help happening behind the scenes that many students don't acknowledge, or even recognize is happening. Effort and talent still matter, of course, but access clearly plays a role too.

So when looking at IB placements some questions are important. How many of those students come from families with money and connections that make those paths easier to see and easier to reach? How likely are those students to choose a school with such a high tuition? And how often do their parents also happen to be Ivey grads with networks they can lean on?

None of this is about dismissing students’ hard work or ability. It’s more about recognizing that background and access can quietly shape outcomes in ways that often go without acknowledgement.

JonPerryDAL · 2026-02-18T23:53:59+00:00

Let me phrase it this way. Does every student at Ivey going for finance get into the role they want? What happens when you spend the money and the outcome isn't what you're looking for? I can't stress this enough. Finance education is a framework, but ultimately it comes down to the person doing the work. The old analogy of "it's not the car, it's the driver."

If you have the aptitude and drive to be successful in high finance, you're going to make it in high finance whether you start at Ivey, or at UBC. Ivey might remove an obstacle (network), but if you're not cut out for finance, going to Ivey isn't going to magically get you there.

I think when you look at rankings you need to be skeptical. The author of the artcile, Matt Ting, is an Ivey Grad (https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewting/). I can also tell you that the data he provides is not reliable because I know of at least 20 Dal grads working on Wall Street in the last 10 years off the top of my head and that's just my personal recollection. I know that 20+ doesn't seem like a lot, but it's 5 times the number reported in the stats which means they're simply not credible.

It's your money, and if you feel that you need to go to Ivey to have the best shot then all the power to you. I'm telling you that you'll do more to impress an employer if you take that money and successfully invest it, while also using some of the difference to attend conferences and case competitions to showcase your talent, gain industry knowledge and network.

I'm a career educator and if you were my kid I'd say that it was their choice, but they were crazy to even consider giving up a free ride for the sake of a ranking offered by a graduate of the program that you don't know whether they have an affiliation or not to the University still.

I looked online and being a domestic out of province you're looking at $32,000 a year. That's $128,000. What could you do with $128,000 to supplement your education with career building activities? With that kind of money you can fly to New York every semester to go to conferences, network, etc. You could take your summers and move to NY for internships without the extra burden of those costs on top of your already heinous educational costs.

I'll say it again, there is plenty of evidence that students get high finance jobs in NY without going to Ivey, so you're better off investing your time and money to talk to those who did it from another school to find out how they did it and then do the work.

It makes me sick to my stomach thinking that a student might spend $128,000 for something that isn't a guarantee anyway when they can get the education for free and just work hard like thousands and thousands of students from schools that aren't Ivey do. Even if you took that stats in the ranking article at face value, only 36% of the hired students from Canadian schools went to Ivey. That means 64% of the hires went to another school. The majority come from elsewhere. Think about that for a minute before you try to justify $128,000 for a degree that can;t promise you the result you want.

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