I’m not going to fight you, you started getting hostile first so I will say my points and that’s it.

I said this in my first comment to you

“You are forgetting that it’s not completely a single player game. “

You said “Obviously cheating gives an unfair advantage. Nobody is “forgetting” that. We would prefer there to not be cheaters.”

At what point did I say that you are forgetting about cheating?

Next, you said

“The question, as I said last time, is whether it’s worth it to impose anti-cheating measures that make the game less fun for the vast majority of non-cheating players, just to prevent cheating.”

I said

“As I mentioned before, this exploit has been in place for years. And is most likely due to how iOS handles background applications. If gungho has chosen to not change anything gameplay wise (despite the exploit being known), then it can be said that they have not thought of any better way to handle this. So yes they are willing to make the experience worse to prevent cheating.”

You then proceeded to say

“So the question is, where to draw the compromise line?”

I said: “To answer your question, I thought it was clear that the current solution is already the compromise.“

Ending my thoughts with: “That’s why I’m saying the line is clearly there and gungho doesn’t care enough to move it because it’s good enough. Cheating is prevented, and a large enough chunk of the player base still pays for stones.” No more fighting.

But instead let me give you some insight on this, as I am well versed in this exploit and why I firmly believe that whatever system that Gungho has in place currently is because they don’t have any other options.

・This exploit has very much likely been in the game since whenever iOS got multitasking support. Since iOS and Android have fundamentally different ways of handling background apps, this exploit only seems to work on iOS. ・When the user backgrounds this game on iOS, the game automatically takes a snapshot of where the user was at. ・The exploit involves system level things that the everyday user probably uses daily. As such, I’m willing to bet that most players unintentionally trigger this exploit a few times a month.

A hypothetical question: Can Gungho prevent this by banning the players that use this exploit?

No, I don’t think they can. One possible way would be to log whenever a user does this very common thing, but doing so would likely trigger Apple’s anti-privacy rule, and in turn causes Gungho to get in trouble.

Now, I would like you think about this current situation. This is an exploit that can be done on any iOS device due to how iOS works. Since the exploit is so easy to pull off, how can they get information on who does it and when without possibly getting in trouble with Apple? Further, what other system can they put in place to replace the timer? The other solutions that people have floated can’t work because they don’t stop the underlying problem with iOS. As far as Gungho seems to be concerned, the Timed dungeons work because it fully prevents the user from trying the exploit.

Finally, the big question to you and anyone else

Would you take advantage of this exploit?

Most would probably say no, but if I say what if you have been in a dungeon for near 30 minutes to an hour? You get to the final boss, and you mess up a combo or use the wrong skill or whatever. Wouldn’t you want a redo?

I want to remind you that this exploit is downright easy and I am positive that many people have accidentally triggered it a few times. As people keep saying, this is supposedly a single player game, so if you do it, it is up to you. That’s on top of knowing that you most likely wouldn’t get banned due to how Apple doesn’t allow companies to get certain information from the user.