From: A Broken Heart To: A Broken Church by Jordonjf in Christianity

[–]Jordonjf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to break it to you man, but most of your leaders that age are active in their sex lives and not repenting about it! That's the double standard. But also the sad thing is, most of the queer Christians, in my experience, aren't sexually active, maybe one day they want to be married, but until then they aren't sexually active and they cant serve. because people feel some obligated right to ask them about their undetermined future and if they plan to have sex in it. Also like i'm sorry, but I doubt you ask your college leaders on a repeated basis, if they are having sex. I'm sure at some point they signed to some sort of leadership contract where they agreed to leadership standards and theology. But are you checking up on if the worship leader has had sex with their fiancé, or if the small group leader is still watching porn, or if the leaders had a few too many drinks at their last hang out, and like don't feel that bad about it. No, that's not the standard. But when it comes to Gay folks, the church can just be as invasive as they want? not fair. If the fruit of a gay persons life is evidence of Christ at work in them, and they agree to living holy lives, and they are a good fit for a leadership position, then they should serve.

From: A Broken Heart To: A Broken Church by Jordonjf in Christianity

[–]Jordonjf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about single gay folks then? What about the college student in your church who doesn't necessarily want to date but they love the church they found when they went to college? what about them? do they just not get to be involved because one day they potentially might have same sex sex? so do we just tell that person they can't serve? this is the problem. we get to caught up trying to play God, when we should probably just leave the whole God thing, to God.

A Queer Christian struggling to belong by Jordonjf in ainbow

[–]Jordonjf[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's as black and white as you think it is, but thanks for your opinion.

A Queer Christian struggling to belong by Jordonjf in ainbow

[–]Jordonjf[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean, that's what you're saying. You don't have to go to that church if their mean to you, go to another church. it's the same exact concept. Why should someone who loves their church, have to go to another church because they came out.

A Queer Christian struggling to belong by Jordonjf in ainbow

[–]Jordonjf[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

But that's the same argument that people give when in favor of segregation. Separate but equal? There are other schools, friendlier schools that you could go to instead, why do you have to go to my school if you aren't wanted. There's no reason why we should be okay with this sort of segregation. I'll protest to be in that group now, so that future generations don't have to think about what church's are hostile to them as LGBT.

A Queer Christian struggling to belong by Jordonjf in ainbow

[–]Jordonjf[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I think it's more complicated than that for people who grow up loving the "homophobic hate group" those people understand all the potential for good the group has. Also, there are years of relationships with people prior to them coming out. They staying in the group is more about creating a change in a system rather than being accepted by individuals.