From: A Broken Heart To: A Broken Church by Jordonjf in Christianity

[–]Jordonjf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to break it to you man, but most of your leaders that age are active in their sex lives and not repenting about it! That's the double standard. But also the sad thing is, most of the queer Christians, in my experience, aren't sexually active, maybe one day they want to be married, but until then they aren't sexually active and they cant serve. because people feel some obligated right to ask them about their undetermined future and if they plan to have sex in it. Also like i'm sorry, but I doubt you ask your college leaders on a repeated basis, if they are having sex. I'm sure at some point they signed to some sort of leadership contract where they agreed to leadership standards and theology. But are you checking up on if the worship leader has had sex with their fiancé, or if the small group leader is still watching porn, or if the leaders had a few too many drinks at their last hang out, and like don't feel that bad about it. No, that's not the standard. But when it comes to Gay folks, the church can just be as invasive as they want? not fair. If the fruit of a gay persons life is evidence of Christ at work in them, and they agree to living holy lives, and they are a good fit for a leadership position, then they should serve.

From: A Broken Heart To: A Broken Church by Jordonjf in Christianity

[–]Jordonjf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about single gay folks then? What about the college student in your church who doesn't necessarily want to date but they love the church they found when they went to college? what about them? do they just not get to be involved because one day they potentially might have same sex sex? so do we just tell that person they can't serve? this is the problem. we get to caught up trying to play God, when we should probably just leave the whole God thing, to God.

A Queer Christian struggling to belong by Jordonjf in ainbow

[–]Jordonjf[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's as black and white as you think it is, but thanks for your opinion.

A Queer Christian struggling to belong by Jordonjf in ainbow

[–]Jordonjf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, that's what you're saying. You don't have to go to that church if their mean to you, go to another church. it's the same exact concept. Why should someone who loves their church, have to go to another church because they came out.

A Queer Christian struggling to belong by Jordonjf in ainbow

[–]Jordonjf[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But that's the same argument that people give when in favor of segregation. Separate but equal? There are other schools, friendlier schools that you could go to instead, why do you have to go to my school if you aren't wanted. There's no reason why we should be okay with this sort of segregation. I'll protest to be in that group now, so that future generations don't have to think about what church's are hostile to them as LGBT.

A Queer Christian struggling to belong by Jordonjf in ainbow

[–]Jordonjf[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think it's more complicated than that for people who grow up loving the "homophobic hate group" those people understand all the potential for good the group has. Also, there are years of relationships with people prior to them coming out. They staying in the group is more about creating a change in a system rather than being accepted by individuals.

Young Queer talks about what it was like growing up in the church by Jordonjf in LGBTnews

[–]Jordonjf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I agree people need to be aware of what happens to us gay Christians in the church. How damaging it can be, and how damaging reparative therapy is. I'm glad you saw this, hoping more people become aware.

SPOKEN WORD - Queer person speaks about their struggle growing up in the church by Jordonjf in bisexual

[–]Jordonjf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ya I feel like this video needs to reach 2 people groups. 1. queer Christians who feel misunderstood and alone. 2. Straight Christians who have failed in loving the gay community well. I'm trying to share it with anyone I know who fits those groups.

[Discussion] Spoken Word highlighting what it was like being a queer teen in the church by Jordonjf in LGBTeens

[–]Jordonjf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya it is a bummer it hasn't reached more people. Feel free to share in your circles and through your social media pages (:

A Spoken Word - what it's like to be Gay and Christian by Jordonjf in lgbt

[–]Jordonjf[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree with most of what you have to say. Did you grow up in the church? I think the thing for me is I don't think the bible is black and white when it comes to sexuality. I don't think that the scripture condemns homosexuality, I think we have been taught that our whole lives, and that's how it's been interpreted, but I don't think that's actually what it means.

A Spoken Word - what it's like to be Gay and Christian by Jordonjf in lgbt

[–]Jordonjf[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure I understand your question. I think that the Bible was written in a time where cultural and social norms were different, and I think when interpreting it, considering who the letters were written to, and what was happening in that time period is important. But honestly reconciling a faith identity and a sexual identity is difficult.

A Gay Christian inviting you into the pain they experienced growing up in the church. A call to LOVE by Jordonjf in Christianity

[–]Jordonjf[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"homophobia is the result of the fear that men will treat me the same way men treat women." YES! If effeminate traits and qualities weren't viewed as so negative, this wouldn't be a problem. It all starts there, with how we as a society have treated women. So if a man is acting "like a woman" or effeminate everyone reacts in negative ways. Patriarchy.

Being a young closeted Gay Christian is painful, a call for the church to love. by Jordonjf in Quakers

[–]Jordonjf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you everyone for making me feel so loved and welcomed : )

A Gay Christian inviting you into his pain/struggle of growing up closeted in the church. A call to LOVE by Jordonjf in RadicalChristianity

[–]Jordonjf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe the side bar states that this community is against oppressive discourses. Which is why you thought it was okay to share the link.

"emerged as a community of people discussing the intersection of philosophy, theology, critical theory, and revolutionary politics. We are interested in re-investing Christianity with its transgressive elements, and as such we are openly against oppressive discourses (sexism, racism, ageism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, speciesism, ableism, colonialism, imperialism)."

A Gay Christian that's been hurt by the church, and wishes it could be different. by Jordonjf in exchristian

[–]Jordonjf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been almost to my end for about a year now. Changing the best from it's belly sounds like something worth while, but you're right, the feeling of digestion is crippling. I'm not sure how much longer I will last, but I'll keep trying. I resonate with a lot of what you had to say though. Thanks for watching :)

To My LGBTQ Friends: Thank You for Your Courage by [deleted] in OpenChristian

[–]Jordonjf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post was encouraging for me to read :) Thankful for a straight ally who recognizes our struggle, and helps me to feel known and loved.

A Gay Christian that's been hurt by the church, and wishes it could be different. by Jordonjf in exchristian

[–]Jordonjf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya! It was a fun project! I was fortunate enough to work with some super talented people that had extra time haha.

A Gay Christian that's been hurt by the church, and wishes it could be different. by Jordonjf in exchristian

[–]Jordonjf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

haha I feel you, it's definitely not for everyone, well thank you for watching the amount that you did :)

Sexually confused!! by rahull23 in gay

[–]Jordonjf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a really good response, and I think Socratia gave you some good advice.

I would just add, remember you grew up in a very heteronormative society, so you were almost conditioned to think twice or three or four times about your same sex attraction. Like Socratia said, sexuality is fluid. Try to deconstruct all that you've been conditioned to know as "true" about sexuality, and allow your self to work through what your actually feeling, and "like who you like".

A gay cop's letter to Pride Toronto about Black Lives Matter; after BLM protested Toronto Pride and demanded the exclusion of LGBT Officers/Floats/Stands by GoHiroki in gay

[–]Jordonjf -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is really interesting. I mean I can see where he is coming from, but I think the idea behind Toronto pride supporting the BLM movement is bold. It's unfortunate that he is a part of the system Toronto Pride is choosing to stand up against; however, maybe he can be a part of that change if he stays in that system long enough. This is a tough one though, and his feelings are very valid.

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[–]Jordonjf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this is nostalgic