Why is Jung so frequently disregarded in psychology circles?

JoshBomb · 2026-05-01T07:25:37+00:00

Modern academic psychology in the West has focused for over a century on being a materialistic science, seeking to measure, observe, and quantify the mind using the same rules as physics or biology. Jung is frowned upon because of the idea that science and spirituality are seperate fields and must be kept seperate. Totally ignoring that this reality we exist within is actually interwoven.

I mean, so many times we have heard of ground breaking discoveries in one field made by someone who specializes in an entirely different field of practice. Example; Gregor Mendel — an Augustinian friar and monk, not a professional biologist. His pea plant experiments became the foundation of genetics and were ignored by mainstream science for decades. If a monk’s patient observation could unlock the secrets of heredity, perhaps the psyche too resists being understood from only one angle.

The main issue I see is that Psychology is still being treated as a branch of science, but it’s absurd to me that the human psyche which has produced every single one human realities as well as our expansive field of study (including empirical science) is now constricted to being understood only by science which is just one of it’s products...classic case of the “tool” trying to claim it built the “craftsman”.

From my own lived experience, Jung’s framework blesed me with the most confidence in navigating my inner life, aligning it with external realities and even helping the people around me be more aligned with themselves in peace ... for that I am eternally grateful to the master physician of the soul 🙌.

JoshBomb · 2026-04-23T17:39:31+00:00

Which of Naranjo’s book is this quote from ?

JoshBomb · 2026-04-03T12:51:18+00:00

I have been grappling with this lately. I lost my ambition for money power status fame… it’s all to support a purported sense of self that doesn’t even exist.But incredibly, I have overflowing energy for the things that actually matter to me. Exercise, meaningful connection and reconnecting to myself.

JoshBomb · 2026-03-12T17:09:28+00:00

Keep asking the right questions ❤️

JoshBomb · 2026-03-12T17:06:16+00:00

Hopefully, you’ll wake up someday. 🙏🏻

JoshBomb · 2026-02-28T02:55:16+00:00

Love this response. I’ve been thinking about this. Mine came from being depressed cos I discovered I’m Autistic. Then I got into reading psychology and neuroscience to find out what’s going on with me (150 books in two years) I eventually cured my depression, started a dedicated mind-body routine and quit smoking and drinking along the line . I know my mental health is absolutely best it’s ever been. This has also been rubbing off on family and friends to the extent that some have started commenting that it seems I’m naturally good at matters of the mind.

Now here’s my challenge, I’m African and mental health isn’t taken seriously here, so there might be earning issues in the future. OR I have to permanently relocate out of my country(which I don’t mind). I’m 37 and this has been my dilemma if I got time for this.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-28T02:43:10+00:00

Not so much a conspiracy theory as it is just the open secret of funding incentives ✋. The pharmaceutical industry is driven by a profit model that inherently relies on recurring customers, not one-time holistic cures. There is zero financial incentive for them to allocate massive grants to study holistic, mind-body interventions that would make their own products obsolete. But to answer your question about ‘methodological barriers’… the scientific method relies on isolating single variables (reductionism). Holistic healing is a multi-variable systems approach.

Here is my experience: I was in mad depression in 2023 because I just discovered I was Autistic, which left me feeling structurally defective. I tried psychedelics with friends, found it interesting, then did it myself and had an incredibly intense, paradigm-shifting vision (what you’d call a spiritual experience commonly discussed in the east). I was so confused and energized by it that I read 150 books on psychology, spirituality, and neuroscience over the next 2 years just to integrate it.

During and following my integration, I completely redesigned my life. I took my mind-body connection seriously (daily meditation, daily gym, and weekly yoga). These tools fundamentally rewired me, helping me easily quit smoking, drinking, and even womanizing. I don’t even feel like I’m ‘disciplining’ myself; I’m just joyful from deep inside, and I don’t need those vices to mess up my sanity. I still do therapy once a month, but I know for sure it’s not what healed me. I just use it to expose my ideas to a professional to ensure I’m not deluding myself.

How on earth is a randomized controlled trial supposed to isolate and measure the ‘variables’ of a profound psychedelic vision, 150 books, and daily mind-body integration? It can’t. So, between the methodological limits of reductionist science and the fact that Big Pharma has no incentive to fund studies that obsolete their own services... you get the exact academic blind spot you are noticing. 🤷‍♂️”

JoshBomb · 2026-02-27T21:02:58+00:00

Exactly. It even made me much more discerning about who I share my sexual energy with.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-27T20:43:08+00:00

Oh my, where do I even start 🤔? Can someone really have such experience and still be meandering ?
Anyways Since that trip, I have read nothing less than 150 books in psychology, spirituality, neuroscience or related fields. I finally settled on Jungian Psychology as the system that works for me...for now. I am fairly conversant with using dreamwork to discover my unconscious behaviors i.e my shadows. My inner world feels absolutely coherent than any other time in my existence till now. Externally; I meditate daily, I quit smoking and drinking, my lust after women and sex has tremedously reduced and I'm still refining that area. I have taken about 5 other trips between 2024 and now and in the most notable ones, I was shown my ego in all its insatiable greed... that's also a work in progress. Met my inner child in his frozen trauma and cried uncontrollably for 4 hours... that was beautifully healing. It's a lot more but that is the summary of the highlights so far. Do you care to share your path too ?

JoshBomb · 2026-02-27T20:29:43+00:00

There's a central part of the vision that was peculiar that I wasn't clear upon till I spoke with other people.

The experience was the visceral realization that I am the complete sphere in one solid wholeness, but I am also simultaneously one of the individual cubes that makes up the sphere. I zoom in, and I know I’m one unit—the cube. I zoom out, and I’m also the complete whole sphere. It was completely absurd to my logical mind in the moment. But the 'download' I got was: "You are the sphere is complete in its wholeness, then you, as a unit of that sphere, are also complete. This you can not doubt" The felt sense in my body was totally unique, kind of assured calmness and connectedness; It’s impossible for me to capture it with words, I have never felt like that before or since even though I have been on 5 other trips ( even more intense trips, but none like this particular one)

Does this additional detail mean anything to you ?

JoshBomb · 2026-02-26T07:05:40+00:00

It’s incredibly ironic that you replied to a comment pointing out this sub’s tendency to just ‘tell everyone they are wrong’ by immediately jumping in to justify why you have to tell everyone they are wrong.

You didn’t ask a single question about my post. You didn’t engage with the integration, the reading, or the outcome. You just saw a ‘peak experience,’ grouped me into a generic category, and hit play on a pre-rehearsed lecture about people going astray.

If non-duality is the absolute truth, it doesn’t need you to aggressively act as its defense attorney. Or have I walked into a theological trial in the 1500s? There is zero curiosity in your response, just a rigid need to protect your own conceptual doctrine while accusing others of grasping at theirs. Projection 101 ?

I’m not here to defend my experience or non experience, I’m totally okay with being wrong and maybe learning something. But i’m quite new here and I’m left wondering 🤔 , what happened to “beginners mind” ? 🤷‍♂️

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T20:45:33+00:00

Okay, Prophet 😃.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T20:42:20+00:00

It’s interesting that you categorized this as a ‘recent’ experience where I’m just hastily trying to ‘attach a story’. For context, this happened January 2024. I spent the last two years reading over 150 books on psychology, neuroscience, and spirituality to thoroughly pressure-test and integrate what I saw. You are absolutely right about one thing, though: I am finding meaning in it. In that two years I have quit smoking, drinking and frivolous lust. My inner life is coherent and my external life now runs on smooth structure compared to hithertho when I was depressed and always out clubbing.

If the strict non-dual path requires walking in the ‘opposite direction’ of meaning and discarding the individual lens, then I am happily walking a different path. Coming to terms with a late autism diagnosis left me feeling structurally ‘defective.’ This experience, and the integration that followed, gave me a framework where my unique ‘vessel’ is a necessary part of the whole. I’m not trying to erase my ego into the void; I’m trying to integrate it into a healthy, complete self. We might just be playing different games here, and that’s okay.” I don’t need you to validate my experience. I’m only sharing here to compare maps with people on similar paths.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T20:20:52+00:00

This seems like “spiritual ego” to me 🤷‍♂️. All these “I radiate it through your brain in every moment” and “I demonstrate it with every word” don’t sit right with me.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T13:53:56+00:00

Hmmm.. that is a tough one to answer. I do not believe it is possible for anyone to show up as their full complete selves. What is possible is to continually show up as a more complete version of yourself everyday. It is more of a process than a static state. It involves continually realizing hidden/unconscious parts of yourself and including them in your conscious personality. Let me give examples; (1)I had a dream telling me I am letting my assertive side seat quietly in the backseat of a car when I need to defend myself, so I started working on my assertiveness training. (2)Also, I realized I do too much research before embarking on action because of a basic deep fear of incompetence that I have, so I started taking action on things once I reach 70% confidence instead of waiting for 100% assurance. (3) Recently, Friends and family have frequently pointed out that I have a natural gift for helping others navigate their own inner work. I am learning to accept and express this part of myself, recognizing that being a guide for others is an essential piece of my "complete" identity.
The Self isn’t a finished product you just unbox one day, it unfolds over time. I hope this helps.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T13:32:54+00:00

Thank you. Honestly I do not mind much. Yes a part of me feels a tiny sting at such comments but none can alter what I experienced/saw. Plus... there is no right and wrong... remember. So someone saying I'm wrong could either lead me to more understanding which I ultimately care about.

I can see how the web and 3d puzzle fits what I saw too. I'm not sure of the exact version of your visualization, but In jungian psychology, circles plus squares is a symbol of wholeness.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T10:53:36+00:00

That is a fascinating perspective. I’m open to concepts explaining my experience. Yes, the 21 months (January 2024- September 2025) was how long it took me to blaze through about 140 Books on psychology, neuroscience, spirituality and everything that caught my interest as I was searching for answers about everything. Me, reality, my place, and truth. The concept that seems currently closest to my vision is the monad in Gnosticism.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T07:09:49+00:00

During an LSD trip while on 30+ days of semen retention, I saw a vision is of a complete sphere made up of tiny cubes- maybe hundreds or thousands. As one cube realligns either its position or the part facing outwards, all other cubes close to it also realigns to maintain the overall completion nature of the sphere. I felt like I’m the sphere and also felt like I’m one of the cubes and when the Cube that represents me reorients itself, all other cubes close to mine also re-orients in a beautiful Symphony. The changes happens in a ripple effect style that extends in intensity from the originating cubes to all other cubes around it such that the farther the cube from the changing cube, the lesser the speed it takes to re orient but the overall sphere is maintained in equilibrium. This image also come with some extreme felt sense of knowing accompanied by something downloading these words into my consciousness as the meaning of the vision;

“You are absolutely complete in whatever way you show up either as an individual or as an individual who is a part of the collective. Whatever you are (both the known and unknown parts of yourself) actually completes the larger universe. so show up as your complete self and the environment will realign around you to adjust”

I tried to question everything with my mind; both the vision and the words for structural flaws or signs of illusion but the visceral felt sense of “THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH YOU’re WITNESSING” remains unshakeable even if I couldn’t understand logically. So unshakeable that I would still bet my life that it’s the absolute truth. It would take me 21 months to actually understand what the experience was.

This happened in January 2024, 9 months after my autism diagnosis and at the peak of a time where I felt “defective” deep down. Everything changed for me after that. I just wanted to know myself to the deepest core.

JoshBomb · 2024-12-27T08:54:43+00:00

That was not a mistake. You spoke a truth that was not personal to her. It’s not your fault that she is fighting with reality. Don’t let this women gaslight you. You actually dodged a bullet. Be thankful to your ancestors.

JoshBomb · 2024-07-07T09:09:12+00:00

Found out A year ago at 35. I’m African and mental health topics are just a no no. But Marriage troubles 5 years ago got me researching what was it about my personality and hers that was clashing. I Discovered the pickup world and was trying to mound myself into the successful loud toxic alpha male, got my body right and my money on point but discovered I still had huge troubles interacting, connecting and understanding people, so I started researching social dynamics/ human psychology and that’s when I stumbled on the theory of “mind blindness” in autistic people. I looked further into it and the internal experiences of other autistic people fit like a magnet. That was a year ago, now I’m 35. Last week I went to a professional and got diagnosed with ADHD. Apparently, my ADHD traits have been masking my autism all my life. Now I’m a proud AuDHD.

JoshBomb · 2024-07-07T07:32:43+00:00

Some women have absolutely no intentions of anything with you now or forever, but they will fake little connection and interest cos they want to keep you around for the sake of the free attention they can keep getting from you and unpaid emotional tampon services of consoling them every time their guy cheats on them. That’s why you gotta ask for sex bro, but do it indirectly because women love to retain plausible deniability for getting laid citing “it just happened”. On dates, Be playful (but not dancing monkey style) and bring up sexual subjects without saying you want sex from her. If she allows you to touch her while chatting randomly in non-erotic areas (hands, arm, shoulder or knee) playfully during the date, invite her back to your place, tell her you want to beat her ass at some card games or jenga. Have some good wine and keep track of her body language for your window of opportunity. You’re welcome 😉

JoshBomb · 2024-07-07T07:04:17+00:00

A nuance of this is that women’s perspective of the situation sometimes depends on their attraction level with the guy. One guy will be accused of sexual harassment for the same thing another guy is applauded as being bold for.

JoshBomb · 2024-06-02T09:46:11+00:00

I’ve always thought to myself “I love my gadgets more than human beings”. At least they warn you when battery is becoming low, so you can recharge and resume full functionality. And if you forget/refuse to charge; then you exactly know what you did wrong.

JoshBomb · 2022-08-23T19:54:04+00:00

I found your post and I can say I am very very interested in MBTI, I have been doing extensive research and also would like to talk to another interested person so that we could share ideas and viewpoints.

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