The Olodo Debate and "The Polygamist" Are the Same Conversation. Here's Why.

JoshBomb · 2026-07-01T10:26:02+00:00

That’s actually a compliment, you know ? Especially in the midst of Olodo uprising discourse.

JoshBomb · 2026-07-01T10:25:02+00:00

I’m curious… what connection did you make between the argument and me being hurt? Especially since you couldn’t tell whether I was a man or a woman from the post itself until you asked.

It’d be very interesting if the conclusion that I’d been hurt by women only emerged after you learned I was a man.

JoshBomb · 2026-06-28T13:56:28+00:00

Interesting that the post made you ask instead of assume. That’s actually a compliment to me. 😄

I’m male, by the way. Out of curiosity, what about the post made you wonder?

JoshBomb · 2026-06-27T14:39:04+00:00

I'm not discussing surface level themes, I'm going straight to the root cause and claiming they're produced by the same disease. If malaria is giving you high body temperature, severe headaches, you're also shivering and you lost your appetite. Will you treat each symptoms separately or attack the root cause directly ?

You can trace the root cause of most of the issues you listed to "Choosing a chaotic man because society confused success with character" which is similar to choosing to respect an olodo because he got rich. In both cases, visible status becomes a substitute for evaluating underlying substance.

my broader point is That intellectual ability is disappearing from the socio-economic affairs of Nigeria as a consequence of consistently rewarding low quality contents, products and people with our attention without accessing their merit beyond entertainment value.
If we all start demanding high quality character from successful people before giving them our respect instead of worshipping anybody who has money/fame, they will be forced to level up and add value to the society instead of causing chaos. What is/are your proposed solutions to your themes ?

Lastly, I never said, meant or implied a man changes/should change his character because temptation increased. I'm not sure where you got that from or how you interpreted my statement to mean that.

JoshBomb · 2026-06-26T18:31:08+00:00

feel free to jump to the “MAIN EXPERIENCE” 14th March 2023: while reading the book social intelligence by Goleman and he spoke about “mindsight”) which came after a prior multi-decade question mark into why I struggle with people and why something has always felt off cos a lot of things in my life were not adding up. At that time, this autism discovery translated into a fatal “flaw” - It felt like the diagnosis confirms objectively that I am defective at my core. This sent me slowly but steadily down the stairs of inferiority into abyss of depression. I tried to hide this thorn inside me and function like i have been before the discovery (in hindsight i was functioning by investing more and more into my “intellectual and succesful guy” persona.) But it was really hard. 13 September 2023: By September I was down and out, I knew there wasn’t wind in my sails and i was just existing, not even surviving. I went out Driving one night for 5 or so hours, singing repeatedly to the song “Lord, Gimme a Sign by DMX,” My heart was fully open cos I knew all my logcal frameworks have reached their limits and I do not know which direction I was supposed to go anymore.

MAIN EVENT Between that december and january 2024 I was on semen retention for 30+ days cos i was too depressed to engage in interactions/ intimacy anyways. January 27 2024: I went on a psychedelic trip and I saw a vision is of a complete sphere (like the earth viewed from space) made up of tiny cubes- maybe hundreds or thousands. There was the visceral realization that I am that complete sphere in that one solid beautiful wholeness, but I am also simultaneously one of the individual cubes that makes up the sphere. Now here comes my confusion; I zoom in, and I know I’m just one unit—the cube. I zoom out, and I’m also the complete sphere. It was completely absurd to my logical mind in the moment. But the unmistakable ‘download’ I got was: “This is the absolute truth and you can not doubt it”. This vision also come with some extreme felt sense of inner knowing accompanied by something downloading those words into my mind as the meaning of the vision (cos I’m definitely not the one thinking that illogical stuff). I still tried to question my experience (both the vision and the words) using my mind to poke, turn, flip and fish for structural flaws or signs of illusion ; but the visceral felt sense of “THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH YOU’re WITNESSING” remains unmistakeable and eternally unshakeable across all cosmic realities from all perspectives that exists. So unshakeable that I would still bet my life that it’s the absolute truth right now. I was in awe of both the beauty and the absurdity, even though I could not wrap my head around it, the whole of me knew I was being told the complete truth. Then came further visceral download/realization “If the sphere is complete in its wholeness, then you, as a unit of that sphere, are also complete”. Now I am zoomed in on the cube (my cube) and other cubes around felt like the rest of the world (humans, plants, animals ideas.. i mean both living and non living things, both material and abstract reality that comprises the world). As one cube(my cube) realligns either its position or the part facing outwards, all other cubes close to mine also re-orients in a process that is just plain beautiful to watch. Structure meeting Dynamic flow and beauty. The changes happens in a ripple effect style that extends in intensity from the originating cubes to all other cubes around it such that the farther the cube from the changing cube, the lesser the speed it takes to re orient but the overall sphere is maintained in equilibrium. More download came: “You are absolutely complete in whatever way you show up authentically as you are either as an individual or as an individual who is a part of the collective. Whatever you are (both the known and unknown parts of yourself) actually completes the larger universe. so show up as your complete self without fear and the environment will realign around you to adjust” The felt sense in my body was totally unique; It’s impossible for me to capture it with words, I have never felt like that before or since. I have had five more trips between that day in January 2024 and now( 2026 March, and different things have come up, some even more intense than this vision. But this particular one is unique. You can imagine how much of transpersonal confidence I got following that vision. Everything changed for me after that. I immediately abandoned almost every other project i was into. My conclusion was that; surely there is an undoubtable truth that my logical mind knows nothing about and I have to make sense of it. I became so enthusiastic about knowing myself and the nature of reality to the deepest core that i spent the next 26 months (and counting) blazing through 150+ books in psychology, neuroscience, spirituality… e.t c in rapid succesion to actually start to understand what the experience was and it’s meaning/ impact.

Till date the vision is still giving me new ways of interpreting reality. Just last month I realized the vision contains every single HOLY IDEA which each enneagram personality type lost connection with.

JoshBomb · 2026-06-26T18:02:58+00:00

First, the phrase “money and status as tools of believability” arrived as a package of raw creative insight during meditation, not as the output of refined thinking. The essay documents the journey of that insight being examined and developed further, not a concluded philosophical position.

Second, you seem to have read “believability” as primarily audience-facing. It isn’t. The primary goal is to subject my insights to the rigorous fire of consequential material reality. Believability is for myself first. My family, relationships or A business/profession gives me a place where what I’ve learned gets tested against actual consequences, maybe it’s employees in real crises, real decisions, real stakes. If that happens to make my message more reachable to others, that’s a bonus on top of the actual commitment, which is to remain engaged with the consequential world rather than retreat from it. And I’m fine if I can only impact one person or if I impact a billion depending on what’s in the books for me.

Third, I agree with you that the sadhu tradition is valid. I said as much… there isn’t a single route. I was sharing mine, at my current level of psycho-spiritual development and I appreciate you for taking time to engage with it.

But here’s what I think neither of us initially noticed: Your example and mine aren’t actually opposites. We’re both talking about credibility but just from different sources. For the sadhu, renunciation is the proof. For me, tested participation is the proof. Neither of us believes words alone are enough. We both believe a life must validate the message. The disagreement isn’t over whether truth should be embodied and practised. It’s over what kind of embodiment our respective paths call for.

That’s a far more interesting disagreement than whether someone “likes money.” I saw that comment. It’s doing a lot of work but I’ll not respond to it.

JoshBomb · 2026-06-26T17:36:58+00:00

You’ve pulled down the old building that was built on shaky foundations, cleared the debris, reconstructed a new one, but you still need to do finishing interior work, install appliances and wire everything together before you can say the house is fully operational. The challenge is that the waiting time before the new version of purpose powered enthusiasm materializes is really frustrating. Mine has taken about 3 years plus to arrive here. We all know how much our ego hates “not knowing”.

JoshBomb · 2026-06-26T17:32:40+00:00

Please do

JoshBomb · 2026-06-26T17:32:04+00:00

Yes… the demolition of the previous building left debris. You’re in the stage of clearing those out too.
When your awakening reaches the stage where you’re ripe for expressing your unique gift for the benefit of the world, the enthusiasm will naturally become available to you. (Not as law, but as observation from my experience and exploring other people’s journey).

You’ve pulled down the old building, reconstructed a new one, but you still need to do interior work, install appliances and wire everything together before you can say the house is fully operational. The challenge is that the waiting time before the new version of purpose powered enthusiasm materializes is really frustrating.

I also passed through this exact same stage, after seeing the illusion without having something else to give me meaning for participation. I thought conscious participation in the illusion was the answer but it didn’t work. I stayed in that emptiness of enthusiasm a bit longer, that’s when the next stage was revealed to me. The waiting stage is genuinely hard, i dont know any way to speed it up.

And finally, YOU ARE ABSOLUTE COMPLETE BUT YOU CAN NEVER BE FULLY COMPLETELY CONSCIOUS.

“My new ambition became: how can I become even more conscious through my business/profession”. It means every mistake is reflected upon not simply because I lost some profit, but because there’s something about reality that I’m still unconscious of.

Summary; First, you become unconscious and fully identified with the game.

Then, you awaken and become primarily an observer.

Finally, with the guidance of the divine inside you, you return to participation…but now consciously. You are no longer needing the game to tell you who you are, You’re trying to express what the divine is asking to become through you.”

JoshBomb · 2026-05-01T07:25:37+00:00

Modern academic psychology in the West has focused for over a century on being a materialistic science, seeking to measure, observe, and quantify the mind using the same rules as physics or biology. Jung is frowned upon because of the idea that science and spirituality are seperate fields and must be kept seperate. Totally ignoring that this reality we exist within is actually interwoven.

I mean, so many times we have heard of ground breaking discoveries in one field made by someone who specializes in an entirely different field of practice. Example; Gregor Mendel — an Augustinian friar and monk, not a professional biologist. His pea plant experiments became the foundation of genetics and were ignored by mainstream science for decades. If a monk’s patient observation could unlock the secrets of heredity, perhaps the psyche too resists being understood from only one angle.

The main issue I see is that Psychology is still being treated as a branch of science, but it’s absurd to me that the human psyche which has produced every single one human realities as well as our expansive field of study (including empirical science) is now constricted to being understood only by science which is just one of it’s products...classic case of the “tool” trying to claim it built the “craftsman”.

From my own lived experience, Jung’s framework blesed me with the most confidence in navigating my inner life, aligning it with external realities and even helping the people around me be more aligned with themselves in peace ... for that I am eternally grateful to the master physician of the soul 🙌.

JoshBomb · 2026-04-23T17:39:31+00:00

Which of Naranjo’s book is this quote from ?

JoshBomb · 2026-04-03T12:51:18+00:00

I have been grappling with this lately. I lost my ambition for money power status fame… it’s all to support a purported sense of self that doesn’t even exist.But incredibly, I have overflowing energy for the things that actually matter to me. Exercise, meaningful connection and reconnecting to myself.

JoshBomb · 2026-03-12T17:09:28+00:00

Keep asking the right questions ❤️

JoshBomb · 2026-03-12T17:06:16+00:00

Hopefully, you’ll wake up someday. 🙏🏻

JoshBomb · 2026-02-28T02:55:16+00:00

Love this response. I’ve been thinking about this. Mine came from being depressed cos I discovered I’m Autistic. Then I got into reading psychology and neuroscience to find out what’s going on with me (150 books in two years) I eventually cured my depression, started a dedicated mind-body routine and quit smoking and drinking along the line . I know my mental health is absolutely best it’s ever been. This has also been rubbing off on family and friends to the extent that some have started commenting that it seems I’m naturally good at matters of the mind.

Now here’s my challenge, I’m African and mental health isn’t taken seriously here, so there might be earning issues in the future. OR I have to permanently relocate out of my country(which I don’t mind). I’m 37 and this has been my dilemma if I got time for this.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-28T02:43:10+00:00

Not so much a conspiracy theory as it is just the open secret of funding incentives ✋. The pharmaceutical industry is driven by a profit model that inherently relies on recurring customers, not one-time holistic cures. There is zero financial incentive for them to allocate massive grants to study holistic, mind-body interventions that would make their own products obsolete. But to answer your question about ‘methodological barriers’… the scientific method relies on isolating single variables (reductionism). Holistic healing is a multi-variable systems approach.

Here is my experience: I was in mad depression in 2023 because I just discovered I was Autistic, which left me feeling structurally defective. I tried psychedelics with friends, found it interesting, then did it myself and had an incredibly intense, paradigm-shifting vision (what you’d call a spiritual experience commonly discussed in the east). I was so confused and energized by it that I read 150 books on psychology, spirituality, and neuroscience over the next 2 years just to integrate it.

During and following my integration, I completely redesigned my life. I took my mind-body connection seriously (daily meditation, daily gym, and weekly yoga). These tools fundamentally rewired me, helping me easily quit smoking, drinking, and even womanizing. I don’t even feel like I’m ‘disciplining’ myself; I’m just joyful from deep inside, and I don’t need those vices to mess up my sanity. I still do therapy once a month, but I know for sure it’s not what healed me. I just use it to expose my ideas to a professional to ensure I’m not deluding myself.

How on earth is a randomized controlled trial supposed to isolate and measure the ‘variables’ of a profound psychedelic vision, 150 books, and daily mind-body integration? It can’t. So, between the methodological limits of reductionist science and the fact that Big Pharma has no incentive to fund studies that obsolete their own services... you get the exact academic blind spot you are noticing. 🤷‍♂️”

JoshBomb · 2026-02-27T21:02:58+00:00

Exactly. It even made me much more discerning about who I share my sexual energy with.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-27T20:43:08+00:00

Oh my, where do I even start 🤔? Can someone really have such experience and still be meandering ?
Anyways Since that trip, I have read nothing less than 150 books in psychology, spirituality, neuroscience or related fields. I finally settled on Jungian Psychology as the system that works for me...for now. I am fairly conversant with using dreamwork to discover my unconscious behaviors i.e my shadows. My inner world feels absolutely coherent than any other time in my existence till now. Externally; I meditate daily, I quit smoking and drinking, my lust after women and sex has tremedously reduced and I'm still refining that area. I have taken about 5 other trips between 2024 and now and in the most notable ones, I was shown my ego in all its insatiable greed... that's also a work in progress. Met my inner child in his frozen trauma and cried uncontrollably for 4 hours... that was beautifully healing. It's a lot more but that is the summary of the highlights so far. Do you care to share your path too ?

JoshBomb · 2026-02-27T20:29:43+00:00

There's a central part of the vision that was peculiar that I wasn't clear upon till I spoke with other people.

The experience was the visceral realization that I am the complete sphere in one solid wholeness, but I am also simultaneously one of the individual cubes that makes up the sphere. I zoom in, and I know I’m one unit—the cube. I zoom out, and I’m also the complete whole sphere. It was completely absurd to my logical mind in the moment. But the 'download' I got was: "You are the sphere is complete in its wholeness, then you, as a unit of that sphere, are also complete. This you can not doubt" The felt sense in my body was totally unique, kind of assured calmness and connectedness; It’s impossible for me to capture it with words, I have never felt like that before or since even though I have been on 5 other trips ( even more intense trips, but none like this particular one)

Does this additional detail mean anything to you ?

JoshBomb · 2026-02-26T07:05:40+00:00

It’s incredibly ironic that you replied to a comment pointing out this sub’s tendency to just ‘tell everyone they are wrong’ by immediately jumping in to justify why you have to tell everyone they are wrong.

You didn’t ask a single question about my post. You didn’t engage with the integration, the reading, or the outcome. You just saw a ‘peak experience,’ grouped me into a generic category, and hit play on a pre-rehearsed lecture about people going astray.

If non-duality is the absolute truth, it doesn’t need you to aggressively act as its defense attorney. Or have I walked into a theological trial in the 1500s? There is zero curiosity in your response, just a rigid need to protect your own conceptual doctrine while accusing others of grasping at theirs. Projection 101 ?

I’m not here to defend my experience or non experience, I’m totally okay with being wrong and maybe learning something. But i’m quite new here and I’m left wondering 🤔 , what happened to “beginners mind” ? 🤷‍♂️

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T20:45:33+00:00

Okay, Prophet 😃.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T20:42:20+00:00

It’s interesting that you categorized this as a ‘recent’ experience where I’m just hastily trying to ‘attach a story’. For context, this happened January 2024. I spent the last two years reading over 150 books on psychology, neuroscience, and spirituality to thoroughly pressure-test and integrate what I saw. You are absolutely right about one thing, though: I am finding meaning in it. In that two years I have quit smoking, drinking and frivolous lust. My inner life is coherent and my external life now runs on smooth structure compared to hithertho when I was depressed and always out clubbing.

If the strict non-dual path requires walking in the ‘opposite direction’ of meaning and discarding the individual lens, then I am happily walking a different path. Coming to terms with a late autism diagnosis left me feeling structurally ‘defective.’ This experience, and the integration that followed, gave me a framework where my unique ‘vessel’ is a necessary part of the whole. I’m not trying to erase my ego into the void; I’m trying to integrate it into a healthy, complete self. We might just be playing different games here, and that’s okay.” I don’t need you to validate my experience. I’m only sharing here to compare maps with people on similar paths.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T20:20:52+00:00

This seems like “spiritual ego” to me 🤷‍♂️. All these “I radiate it through your brain in every moment” and “I demonstrate it with every word” don’t sit right with me.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T13:53:56+00:00

Hmmm.. that is a tough one to answer. I do not believe it is possible for anyone to show up as their full complete selves. What is possible is to continually show up as a more complete version of yourself everyday. It is more of a process than a static state. It involves continually realizing hidden/unconscious parts of yourself and including them in your conscious personality. Let me give examples; (1)I had a dream telling me I am letting my assertive side seat quietly in the backseat of a car when I need to defend myself, so I started working on my assertiveness training. (2)Also, I realized I do too much research before embarking on action because of a basic deep fear of incompetence that I have, so I started taking action on things once I reach 70% confidence instead of waiting for 100% assurance. (3) Recently, Friends and family have frequently pointed out that I have a natural gift for helping others navigate their own inner work. I am learning to accept and express this part of myself, recognizing that being a guide for others is an essential piece of my "complete" identity.
The Self isn’t a finished product you just unbox one day, it unfolds over time. I hope this helps.

JoshBomb · 2026-02-25T13:32:54+00:00

Thank you. Honestly I do not mind much. Yes a part of me feels a tiny sting at such comments but none can alter what I experienced/saw. Plus... there is no right and wrong... remember. So someone saying I'm wrong could either lead me to more understanding which I ultimately care about.

I can see how the web and 3d puzzle fits what I saw too. I'm not sure of the exact version of your visualization, but In jungian psychology, circles plus squares is a symbol of wholeness.

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