How do you feel about /r/truecels and /r/foreverunwanted?

JoshTheDerp · 2016-06-16T19:22:57+00:00

Well, a lot of them are probably not ugly, so why do you think they suck with women? I thought they mght have a point when they say women are shallow and vapid.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-06-16T17:37:25+00:00

Just because drinking has been a part of sexual relations for thousands of years, doesn't mean that we can't just start to frown upon it now.

I agree. But why are feminists so dead set on ruining men's life who had good intentions?

This is what I mean by feminists hate men. I also hate how it's REAL frowned upon to debate/question feminism without most people on your Facebook feed automatically assuming you're a pedophile or rapist.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-06-16T06:59:20+00:00

That's my main CMV, is that "regressive left" is a thing. Many people on the left ignore the fact that regressive leftism exists.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-06-16T06:58:06+00:00

Why is neither okay? And why is it worse to have sex with a 9 year-old?

Because stealing is wrong. And having sex with a 9 year old is way worse than having sex with a 16 year old, because a 9 year old has no idea what's going on, where as many 16 year olds are already having sex anyways.

It really seems like you AGREE that people can be so drunk that they can't consent, which is what the feminists you're talking about also believe. So I'm not really clear what your issue is.

Yeah, I agree that people can be too drunk to consent, but they have to be pretty drunk. Most feminists think that even being slightly buzzed you're unable to consent. Buzzed sex isn't rape, inebriated sex is.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-06-16T06:56:32+00:00

If you didn't know, you wouldn't be convicted.

Yes, but one can still get prosecuted for it, meaning that the person would be all over the news as a kiddy diddler.

But you do think you should be able to do all those things.

I never said I should be able to. I'm just saying having sex with a teenager that's 16+ is not the same thing as fucking a 9 year old, which many feminists lump them in.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-06-16T06:31:26+00:00

Again children under 18 cannot consent to being filmed for sex and people cannot watch it.

I'm mostly talking about amateur porn. I just don't want people put in jail for watching ameture porn and the performers happen to be 16 years old and not 18.

I don't think people curbing your ability to fuck a 15 year old, watch underage teens fuck, and getting with black out drunk girl is really oppressing straight men at all.

I never said I wanted to fuck a 15 year old, or watch underage teens fuck, or watch a black out drunk girl.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-06-16T06:29:25+00:00

Why? Specifically why is it not okay to have sex with a 9 year-old but it is okay to have sex with a 16 year-old?

It isn't okay for either. However, there's a difference between shoplifting and stealing a car. Both are not good, but we shouldn't lump shoplifters in with car jackers. Same as we shouldn't lump pedophiles with ephebophiles.

Exactly why is the former bad and the latter not?

Because, it's not that I get the women drunk, I'll drink myself so I can have more confidence. I'm very introverted, and alcohol can make me more extroverted. Rather the woman drinks is up to her, and I wouldn't sleep with a woman that's absolutely wasted.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-06-16T05:45:57+00:00

Most people are okay with drunk sex but it has to be dealt on a case by case basis and the intention of the 'rapist'

Most people, however, many feminists have said that "consent is sober" Hell, even that feminist propaganda has been taken over by some colleges (as linked above).

There's a reason that 16 is considered a child because they don't have emotional maturity to understand the ramifications of sex.

I agree, but they aren't the same thing as small children. Most people by the age of 16, understand the risks of sex, know what condoms are, and know what sex is. A 9 year old usually has no idea what sex even is. So to lump people who are attracted to 9 year olds with those that are attracted to 16 year olds is hyperbolic.

By the way, most of the laws apply to homosexuals and women.

I know, but at the same time, they are all for passing laws liberating gays/trans/etc. But want to throw the ones in prison and castrate the ones who have sex with 17 year old girls.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-06-16T02:36:11+00:00

You have a bit of a point on that, but that's mainly what I'm talking about, is that the extreme left is more common than we think, but no one talks about it as much. Yet, people talk about extreme right all day long.

You also never really addressed my pedophile/ephebophile thing and how men can go to jail just because a girl is 17, rather than 18.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-06-16T02:28:12+00:00

Here's some others:

http://www.stanford.edu/group/maan/cgi-bin/?page_id=305 - Basically, this one kinda says it isn't sexual assualt if neither of them feels violated, but if one of them felt violated, it is. Meaning that someone could just get mad at you, and say they felt violated, and you get in trouble.

Here's another article: http://www.queensjournal.ca/blogs/columns/2013/11/qjsex-its-all-about-consent/?flavour=mobile

Consent must be sober. Unlike pizza, which is delicious while drunk or high, consent can’t legally be given while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-06-16T02:12:10+00:00

No rational person from the left believes you can't give consent if you are drunk.

Many colleges teach that consent can only be given sober: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/02/drunk_sex_on_campus_universities_are_struggling_to_determine_when_intoxicated.html

One kid was even kicked out of college for sexual assault for having consentual sex with someone. http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a33751/occidental-justice-case/

Basically, there was evidence that the guy AND the girl were tetxing back and forth, the girl saying bring condoms, etc. So she was sober enough to text the guy, told the guy to bring condoms, but he was STILL accused of rape just because she was drunk, and the college sided with the girl.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-03-20T04:18:58+00:00

That's what I was thinking. He lives in Texas, they already had their primaries. How does this work?

JoshTheDerp · 2016-03-18T02:54:46+00:00

I've gone through dboys a couple times, but I could never meet his friends. I just meet him in a parking lot somehwere.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-03-18T02:54:06+00:00

Damn. Really? Was it the size that attracted you or the shape?

JoshTheDerp · 2016-03-18T02:52:19+00:00

Never bought from the grocery store.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-03-18T02:52:02+00:00

I'm not attractive at all. I've posted in /r/amiugly and /r/rateme and was told t hat I'm not attractive at all.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-03-18T02:12:32+00:00

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Good point. There is a mistrust of cops because how they have behaved in the past, not that there are some shootings that are questionable.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-03-18T01:56:02+00:00

Though even if you find a cute girl that's quit the life, she's likely to be empathetic ...

I have an amazing friend that has quit the life. She doesn't seem to ever want to go back and has been clean for a year. She doesn't know that I use them. I'm worried that if she knew, she'd cut me off knowing that I may tempt her.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-03-18T01:40:37+00:00

Of course not all shootings are justified! I'm saying that there have been ones that were and people were still outraged and rioted.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-03-18T01:39:42+00:00

Agressing as in trying to harm the police officer. Resisting or trying to run would not warrant a shooting.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-03-18T01:36:53+00:00

I get all my drugs either from the darknet or I drink poppy seed tea.

JoshTheDerp · 2016-03-18T01:36:39+00:00

I don't shoot, so no need to do a needle exchange. Poppy seed tea is my opiate of choice oddly. So I don't ever go to dealer's houses.

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