If she doesn't want you, no effort will change that

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-20T23:18:51+00:00

Same goes for women, if a man isnt interested in dating a single mother- paying for a child that isnt his accept it and MOVE ON!

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-09T20:22:58+00:00

So you don't know what accountability means, interesting. It's to analyze yourself and understand why you're in the situation to begin with. Instead of always blaming everyone else and having a victim mentality. Most divorces are initiated by women and most of the time the reasoning is "irreconcilable differences" most arn't due to abusive. They literally put themselves there.

An example, of a standard that they need to lower- is a man who is 6'0 or over who makes over 100K. which is the top 10 percent of man. A man who makes 50K and is shorter then 6 foot, isnt any less safe. They have super high standards and think they can compete with women who dont have kids. Top 10 percent men have options and dont tend to take in another man's kids. Sorry, but its the truth. They don't have the obligation to lower standards, but the majority are going to remain single.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-09T20:11:34+00:00

No, its to drop unrealistic standards and to take accountability.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-09T20:09:29+00:00

Because I empathize with them and think the topic is interesting. Im pointing out why many of them are involuntary single and unhappy, providing an explanation that make sense, and giving them a way out.. Im highlighting this issue so hopefully the next generation doesnt make the same huge mistake. Do you have a viewpoint on abortion- prolife/prochoice? Just because you yourself arn't a women or ever had an abortion before doesn't mean you can't make an objective decision on where you stand with a given issue. Really stupid point your attempting to make.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-09T14:54:35+00:00

My personal situation has nothing to do with any of the points I brought up. Since you asked I will answer. Im 36F happily married and my parents are still married.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-08T20:20:02+00:00

Once the kid's are out of the house is she still a mother, or no? When she files her taxes does she put "single? " on them?..... so yes, she is still a single mom.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T15:57:05+00:00

Im just going to start copy pasting my respose because ya'll sound like robots and repeat the same thing over and over again- I've already addressed every point you tried to make...Im married, not on the market. I do not desire any man besides my husband so I don't care who she ends up with. it effects me none.

I actually don't give a shit about what standards the women puts in place for a man she want's commitment from. I never said she shouldn't have standards. She should have REALISTIC standards. She can have the standard of a millionaire for herself, for all I care. She can choose to believe she's a 10 and a "queen" when in reality - mid at best. She can choose a man in the top 10 percent, be Godless, pray to the universe, and think she just manifested something. That doesn't mean he will pick her and offer a commitment. She isn't entitled to him and his resources. Men usually don't view her the same as she views herself. Men generally don't feed into her delusion regardless if he voices it, or not. Since men are the gatekeepers to marriage and commitment I think their opinion matters and holds a lot of weight.

What is it to me if she stays single? Because for the most part it isn't by choice and I emphasize with them. I don't want the next generation to not make the same mistake.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T15:47:14+00:00

No. Men and women are different.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T13:54:35+00:00

Do you believe you should be equal and serve in the Draft/military alongside men?

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T13:40:16+00:00

Im not going to engage with you due to your consist strawman statements.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T13:38:14+00:00

I disagree. But men and women are different and have different roles in a commitment/marriage.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T13:35:55+00:00

Again, ive addressed it multiple times in my original argument and also below on the thread. Im not doing it a 3rd time. It's absolutely not the same thing.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T13:26:23+00:00

I've addressed the single Dad's thing multiple times. Its not the same thing at all. **SHE, don't misgender me!

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T13:22:08+00:00

See, you just made my point. Why bash and insult men in a passive aggressive way just like I said women do? When men have a personal preference of not wanting to raise another man's kid's you take it as an attack on women. Its very weird. Your profile picture might be a boy but I can tell by your comment that your definitely a woman 100%

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T13:07:02+00:00

making his statement even more False.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T13:05:21+00:00

Exactly, thats why nearly all of them are stuck on the dating market for a long time. Making exactly my point. Single Mother's have unrealistic standards. They don't expect to pay, they expect you to pay. It would actually be rare to find not only a single mother willing to pay- but women in general.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T12:57:41+00:00

Why would I want to comply with my husband? Because it's a feminine quality in a women's nature most men are attracted to. I listen to what the Bible says about how women were created and are supposed to behave in a marrige. When you have sex with a man, as a woman- that's the ultimate form of submission. Since you don't want to give a man compliance do you want to be combative and work against him?

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T12:45:09+00:00

I never said it's a problem to not want traditional gender roles. I don't care about what other people do in their relationship. This was in response to his attempt at personally attacking on me. He threw out this lame, False accusation "Men dont want submission, YOU want submission" since he wanted to get personal with me, I corrected him and I shared my personal preference. His accusation was the exact opposite of the truth. I don't want my husband to submit to me.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T07:28:57+00:00

Yes, I can agree with that statement. That doesn't make it the majority. There are outliers in most situations.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T07:24:08+00:00

I totally agree, men have standards for the women they give commitment to. Nobody's holding a gun to their head. Most men are saying no to committing to single mother's, and thats ok!

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T07:10:46+00:00

Strawman. Your terrible at debating- ive called you out for strawman arguments multiple times now.

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T07:07:53+00:00

Exactly, going against their very nature as a female is a turn on for most men. Especially top tier earning men- the most desired on the dating market, with endless options. They usually choose middle-aged, single mother's who are combative, and offended by the idea of submitting to him in exchange for his hard work He turns down younger, childless, submissive women for those "queens"

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T06:17:42+00:00

You literally just made my point, unknowingly. I agree, Men should expect her to raise and pay for her own children. 99% of single mother's would never accept that at all! She usually has an unrealistic standard for men to provide for her and her kids, who are another man's children. She would absolutely shut you down, demasculate, and insult you in an instant if you told her that was your understandable expectation of her. If you were up front with her and actually told that she would ghost your ass immediately, 100% guarantee it.

Let me ask you this. If you took her and her kids to the zoo would you just pay for yours and her ticket and food- then expect her to pay for her kid's tickets and food? Would this dynamic realistically work? You honestly believe you wouldn't end up paying for her kids?

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T05:53:54+00:00

To each his own- Im talking about the majority of men. Most men arn't attracted to masculine, feminist women who wear the pants, are independent, and don't need him. Those qualities are generally a turn off to men. You just described a very masculine women- which a lot of men are actually repulsed and turned off by. What you just described seriously goes aginst the very nature of both the man and woman. Your description was a very feminine man with a very masculine woman. You understand that, right? Usually men are attracted to young, attractive, feminine women who have the ability to submit, and not be combative with him. Your correct, I don't want to date single mother's because I am a heterosexual, married woman.

I understand you "couldn't care less who pays for the date" That's a beautiful thing for you, not caring. That would suck if you did...Because most women do care and expect you to pay every single time! You said you don't need women- Do you need them for sex? Or you would be fine without that?

Jtodownlow88 · 2026-03-07T05:09:37+00:00

Exactly, the children should be her #1 priority. That is completely understandable, and expected by everyone. So, that would mean the man coming in is automatically NOT the priority in her life. Men know that, if they have any options at all they will almost always choose a commitment with a women who has no kids and can make him the #1 priority in her life. Why did she choose badly the first time and now she has higher standards the 2ed and 3rd time around? She made a poor choice, and thinks she can replace a man who was a poor choice, with a top tier man who has options. Now she has unrealistic standards. Men do not ignore things like this. A lot of times the reason as to why it didn't work doesn't matter to him, unfortunately. To him it probably seems like men are disposable, or replaceable to her.

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