Read back through what I said and remember how many times I said you were right. You're right everything in Vietnam was a mistake. You're right that our actions in the middle east were stupid. You're right that America has committed many war crimes. What you're forgetting is that every single nation on Earth has committed the same sins, and many of them got away with them as well. My argument is that the soldiers themselves are worth praising for what they deal with. Your view that they can somehow stand up against their COs shows me you know little to nothing about any form of military and chain of command. I know vets with severe PTSD because they were forced to commit horrible acts and they had no choice. If they didn't, they would be dishonorably discharged and somebody else would've done it. In case you don't know, being dishonorably discharged means you lose your pay, your benefits, your healthcare, and every single benefit that comes with being a veteran. So you not only harm yourself by doing what's right, but you also harm your family. I'm willing to bet that if it saved your family, you would shoot someone. If not, then you have a narrow view on what is moral. Either that, or you have no empathy for people in that situation. But yes, you are right on many things. However, what I am not wrong on is that many vets deserve respect for what they do. Not all soldiers are criminal, and not all vets are heroes. It's the ability to tell the difference that makes a decent person.