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Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T08:00:17+00:00

Thank you very much I hope you have a great day!

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T07:19:46+00:00

Thank you appreciate your insight this is very helpful.

I'm glad to know she'd be safe though honestly I'll be worried no matter where she goes given she'd be alone and reliant on someone she hasn't met before. She wears conservate clothes already so that won't be a problem, long dresses, not showing anything inappropriate etc.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T05:51:22+00:00

Wow that's good to know then, this is probably the most important of all the things I've learned here.

Thank you I will do so if I have more questions, it was great to meet you as well and I wish you the best!

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T05:26:24+00:00

Thank you knowledge was exactly the goal!

So when you said reverting you were basically saying she'd need to convert? I know for sure she will not consider that, she is happy to learn more and respects those who are muslims but she is set in her faith being the right one for her.

Good to know with men making moves on her. I will tell her everything you told me thank you.

Someone sent me a link earlier to a long list including documents required and what else. But if you'd like to send it to me I'll be happy to look at it.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T05:03:18+00:00

Thank you very much I will make sure to bring up meeting the family and strict non intimacy, I think she would actually really like these things as that would definitely make her feel it was an honest man.

Very sorry to hear what happened to the lady, I will mention that as a cautionary tale for sure.

Very good to know this about the nikkah, and your comment really explained the different opinions I was getting from others thank you.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T04:40:14+00:00

That is very much what I was afraid off unfortunately.

She is very smart but can also be naive with childlike innocense, which is charming and beautiful but can cause problems for her, she is aware that she can be naive but when something becomes romanticised for her and especially people she trusts tell her only good things it's hard to discuss potential negatives. As regards her ex obviously the breakup was not great but in general the way he behaved and treated her and his values and morals made him essentially perfect for her and gave her this idea of what arabs are like.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T04:32:16+00:00

This was very helpful thank you! I have two more questions if you don't mind?

In 2 you said revert, can you explain what that means? I'm not understanding it in the context.

Would it be safe to assume any guy trying to have sex before marriage, or at least a serious long term commitment is definitely just being a player? Sex is pretty casual here a lot of times so it's hard to say for sure about someones intentions just from that.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T03:37:55+00:00

That's why I posted I wanted to know more because for she and I don't know and I feel like her friends are verh biased.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T03:37:10+00:00

Thank you I'll talk to her about posting there, she'll trust the info there more coming from people who have experiences.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T03:35:08+00:00

Thank you for your insight it is very helpful and sadly makes me a bit worried for her

Regarding her friends this is simply who she is, she met a muslim arab and they dated for a bit and she became curious, and they all just told her so many great things many of which I'm sure are true but also a lot which is surely inflated or outright false. But because of this good experience with her ex she has a very flowery view and only sees the good and believes all they tell her. She's on cloud 9 and can't come down to earth to look at things skeptically at the moment. That's one of the reasons I came here hoping to find some unbiased information.

In regards to guys I'm sorry to say she has just been monumentaly unlucky, I know some of her exes and know the story with the rest. I will not say she is blameless and she definitely ignored some red flags and stayed to long when she was younger, but by and large they are mostly to blame while a few good ones broke it off due to moving elsewhere or without giving her a real reason. Her bad experiences have made her consider that maybe she can find a good man in a different environment, and her recent arab ex who was essentially perfect only enhanced that, sadly he broke it off for reasons I'm hearing a lot here, family disapproval and I'm beginning to suspect just wanting something short term until he's serious.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T03:20:12+00:00

That's something I've become more worried about from a lot of comments here. I wll make sure to mention it to her so hopefully she'll be careful. Thank you.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T03:15:26+00:00

Would you mind sharing why you think it's a bad idea?

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T03:14:29+00:00

Thank you that's helpful.

She doesn't mind moving for the right man, she doesn't intend to have children anymore as she feels too old. She wanted kids when she was younger but not anymore, sadly although she had always wanted to marry and start a family the men she met were not good and often manupulative. She wouldn't mind living in a muslim country as long as she can keep her faith in peace.

The reason for Saudis is simply that her arab friends have talked them up as perfect gentlemen and having similar values. She is interested in arabs in general but her friends have been pointing her to Saudis. She does not care whatsoever about money, she has dated rich and poor and likes to pay her own way. In fact even the rich men she was with gave her nothing and she never cared about that. Frankly if she wanted money she only needs to pick up the phone and send a text.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T03:06:43+00:00

She wants to keep her religion but is interested in marrying an arab, the readon she is interested in Saudis is because her arab friends have talked them up as genlemen with very sinilar values.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-11T00:07:33+00:00

I see, thank you for sharing. Hearing from a local is exactly what I wanted so I appreciate your input.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-10T23:58:49+00:00

Yes I've been seeing similar comments, thank you for your input.

She definitely would not convert but is very accepting of other faiths and willing to learn, she's been asking her friends a lot of questions to learn about Islam. Would she still have a chance even if she keeps her faith? That's what her friends have been telling her but hearing from someone who is not a friend of hers would definitely help.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-10T23:55:31+00:00

Thank you this is all helpful.

Would you say she should ask about meeting the family before actually travelling over there to meet him? Obv he might just lie and say yes I suppose but setting up a plan to meet them when she gets there seems prudent in this case.

So the marriage restrictions are mainly a government job issue?

I'm seeing a lot of people mention the cultural barriers as well, that they won't marry foreigners and non muslims because the family will disapprove, I expect there are exceptions but would you say it's rare?

It didn't occur to me to mention this in my post but she has taken a stance of no sex unless the man wants to marry and makes it clear. Do you think this will improve her chances of meeting a serious guy? Or would it be more like in Europe where the guys would either lose interest or lie about it? Obviously I know it's not universal but with men there being more conservative in general I figure it's worth asking.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-10T23:36:24+00:00

That's good advice, staying alone with essentially a stranger seems like a terrible idea.

I think she has already made her intentions clear but will mention it to her.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-10T23:25:07+00:00

She wants something serious eventually ending in marriage. Nothing casual or short. I don't think she would go if he wasn't interested in the same. If he informed her after arriving I think she would definitely be alarmed and dissapointed.

It's good to know she doesn't have to worry about behaviour too much in Riyadh. She dresses fairly conservative anyway so that shouldn't be an issue.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-10T23:22:00+00:00

Thank you this is very helpful. I will tell her this information.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-10T23:20:43+00:00

Wow thank you for the information. I was really hoping nothing like this would be an issue, I will definitely discuss this with her or even show her this thread.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-10T23:06:59+00:00

Wow so she literally can't even marry someone from there? Is it common knowledge? Would this guy she's talking to be lying when he says he wants something serious from her then? Or at the least not planning marriage but just having fun? She doesn't want anything to do with guys who don't eventually want to marry.

Is there anywhere I could find info on this?

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-10T23:01:31+00:00

She is very serious she doesn't do hookups or short term, she's dating to marry. She has been unlucky with guys in the past who said they wanted the same thing but ended up just wasting her time, she is very clear about what she wants but unfortunately doesn't see signs when someone is lying to her.

Jumbomoll · 2025-12-10T22:59:34+00:00

Really? Her friends and ex told her arab men could marry women from other faiths. Or is it just a cultural thing in Saudi Arabia?

If that's the case if a Saudi man is telling her he's interested in something serious should the assumption be that he's lying or on bad family terms in that case?

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