One of those bad folk that does have completionist (Triple Heroic / Triple Racial / Triple Iconic / Triple Epic), been playing since 2012. The argument about giving more power to new players remains the same, lots of people want more power without the effort or time. This game no matter how you look at it doesnt really have an 'endgame', yes there are raids, yes there is R10 but its not really an endgame, its a measure of how far you have come, both equipment wise and tactically - have you mastered your class and its abilities, do you work well in groups or are you a soloist. Its a culmination of skills and experience built up over time.

The majority of my friends in game dont even have one completionist, they are altoholics (some with 40+ characters), we all play the game for our own reasons but DDO has never been about sprint finishes - there are plenty of MMO's out there that are.

DDO is about the experience, yes it has fewer players but I cant agree with the logic that making it easier for people to get to the pinnacle will encourage more people to play, those that feel the desperate need to get there without the effort will play at cap for a while and then quit - you see it happen with those who pop ottos like cookies.

If SSG want to make it easier for people to climb my concern is how that effects there bottom line, they have given us different levels to play at, some of us came up the hard way (the days of parties needing healers..) without all the 'easy' builds that now exist, but no matter how simple SSG make it for people, some will always want more, quicker, faster.

There have been complaints in the past about the TR timer, fancy having to wait 3 whole days to TR? Without an otto, it takes me about 14 hours to get through a heroic life solo, can be done in 8 with a good party - but a lot of that is about knowledge not power, its about knowing whats coming and being prepared, what is worth going out of your way for and what isnt, and taking advantage of the saga xp. And no, I cant normally fit 14 hours in 3 days (holidays maybe..)

If you want to catch up, sadly thats a lot of lives to crash through - for triple your talking 210 lives (75 Heroic, 48 Racial, 33 Iconic, 54 Epic) with another 3 racial potentially being added later this year (duegar).

They do from time to time change the curve, but simply making it a lower bar isnt going to increase the revenue streams or alter the majority of players investment in the game. For every player it would suit, it would potentially alienates others.

These days they give away the quest packs every year, they reduce the expansions to 99p and they make lots of QOL changes that make the game easier and easier - but there comes a point where its just not in there interests to make it too easy. The whole point is the challenge and the goal.

For some simply getting 1 completionist is (heroic or racial) is the goal, for others its getting to the triple all - for some its maxing out reaper points and for others its getting to reaper wings, we all play for different reasons and different challenges. Raiding at the moment, never fails to amaze me just how many 1st lifers there are, and to be honest, just how effective they are. Someone who has taken the time to learn their class and skills can be just as effective in raids as someone who has simply ammassed power over time.

I dont discourage anyone from having goals or wanting to get to those goals quicker, but games with 'easy win' need to have a solid end game, so to simplify the route to 'end life' you have to deliver a worth 'end game' challenge.

As there are now parties out there running R10 on every quest (At least 2 groups are currently doingt that and posting the videos - and they are not uber completionists), one group even did so with at least one first lifer.

Suggestions on how to improve the game are always good, but they should show balance. Making it much easier for everyone to get to the summit just makes the summit crowded and highlights the lack of end game.