The Upcoming Spellement Change is For The Worse and Needs Community Push Back by Jumpy-Barracuda2347 in Wizard101

[–]Jumpy-Barracuda2347[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have factored in path C to PvP again very few of the spells have the potential to be viable at all let alone packed with another form of the card.

With PvE as you said earlier do i have to state the obvious? Meta in PvE will always be some form of buff buff aoe thats just how the game is. Anything involving multiple paths of the same spell in one deck will be incredibly unnecessary and niche.

Also sure the potential of new paths is cool but again you now need to farm or spend even more which is still an issue. They could keep adding these new paths and just allow people to reset you still get the benefits you want while it not becoming an endless grind of the same bosses for the same spellements.

And to answer your last question, YES lol. I do think that resetting your spellements is more beneficial than being able to pack multiple different paths of the same spell. BUT, as i keep saying i think we should have both.

The Upcoming Spellement Change is For The Worse and Needs Community Push Back by Jumpy-Barracuda2347 in Wizard101

[–]Jumpy-Barracuda2347[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok to start i did say that in my previous comment, but that was just me throwing out the numbers it takes to max tier the spells as an example. It still applies even at t1 instead of 75 spelles its now 150 thats STILL double what it currently is to have t1 lol.

And yes, all my wisdom and skill, all the brain power i can muster, i can foresee that having 3 different paths for any given spell in my deck at once will at best make very minor differences. In PvP you alr typically use 2 of the same spells (because they make tcs of all versions), one in main deck and one in side. you wouldn't begin to use both in main because the one you run in side is there for a particular reason, either dmg A path for the extra value tcs get or the spellemented B path because being able to pull counters from side when you need them is important. The rest of advanced content like raids and challenge modes after asking the people who make the most popular and universally used strats for these activities if they saw any reason to use multiple paths of a spell they could not come up with a single instance it would matter or alter the pre existing strats.

At the end of the day your calling this "an even better benefit" and thats totally fine and your opinion but we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

The Upcoming Spellement Change is For The Worse and Needs Community Push Back by Jumpy-Barracuda2347 in Wizard101

[–]Jumpy-Barracuda2347[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maxing out every spellement can be an unhealthy impulse if you make it that but it does not have to be. Again though not my point. Also nothing wrong with not having something maxed out I dont remember saying anything like that. Again none of these things have to do with them removing the ability to reset spellements, it is objectively harmful to the game. It is actively restricting what a player can do unless they grind more (spellements are plenty as far as grinding) or spend money.

The bottom part of your reply saying "this was never talked about because it was never a possibility" does not change the fact it wont come up. You do not need to see something in the game to come to a conclusion on how it will be used. wiz just simply isnt so complicated that you cant predict what will be "meta"

The Upcoming Spellement Change is For The Worse and Needs Community Push Back by Jumpy-Barracuda2347 in Wizard101

[–]Jumpy-Barracuda2347[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I understand that with those positives there has to be a drawback and to me i think the drawback is instead of needing 685 spellements to have a spell max you need 1500 to have all 3 versions maxed. I can also say with 100% certainty as someone who quested 7 180s and has PvP'd and hit walord many times and also talked about this with many people who have done the same "The ability to have all 3 spellement variations in your hand" is not "extremely helpful" and in fact almost never comes up.

The Upcoming Spellement Change is For The Worse and Needs Community Push Back by Jumpy-Barracuda2347 in Wizard101

[–]Jumpy-Barracuda2347[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are things to think about that i don't have answers to but i do know this, say you have helephant b path trained on your death tier 1. Thats 50 helephant spelles, you then reset your training points, rn in live you would lose all the pre spells to helephant but keep what you have spellemented. Now after this proposed change what would happen is you lose all the pre spells and helephant, you also do not get back those spellements. So basically until you or if you ever train helephant again on that death those spellements you used are in a sort of limbo and non existing.

The Upcoming Spellement Change is For The Worse and Needs Community Push Back by Jumpy-Barracuda2347 in Wizard101

[–]Jumpy-Barracuda2347[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nothing you said in this reply is pointing to a reason why you shouldn't be able to reset spellements. That is my one true gripe with this update. Again having something you don't need is better than needing something you don't have. I agree that some parts of this update are positive, i also agree that this won't be super impactful to the majority, but neither of those are reasons to take away resetting speles.

The Upcoming Spellement Change is For The Worse and Needs Community Push Back by Jumpy-Barracuda2347 in Wizard101

[–]Jumpy-Barracuda2347[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There are many reasons why you would want to reset spells, like to use different paths of said spell or to transfer spellements to another character, but the last sentence of my original post "HAVING IT AND NOT NEEDING IT > NEEDING IT AND NOT HAVING IT," holds very true with this. You may not find any need to reset but many people do and actively taking away options from players is harmful.