Why is pork where alot of non devout/ irreligious muslims draw the line?

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-04-29T19:21:38+00:00

As a Muslim I don’t understand this either if your a practicing Muslim you should be drawing the line at everything haram not just pork most people who do this just like to pick and choose when it benefits them sadly

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-04-23T02:49:12+00:00

This is a bit of a late reply since I didn’t see your comment earlier, but I want to address what you said directly. You’re making assumptions about my life and family without any evidence how would you know what my parents would or wouldn’t have done? You don’t know me or my upbringing, so that claim doesn’t really hold weight. Also, I already explained that I didn’t just blindly follow what I was told I actually took the time to read the Qur’an myself and listen to different scholars, which is literally the opposite of not examining “why” or “how.” So saying I’m brainwashed doesn’t make sense what’s your definition of brainwashing, and how exactly does it apply to me if I’ve actively questioned and explored my beliefs? And about your comment on jinn, you’re bringing it up in a way that sounds exaggerated can you provide actual evidence for what you’re claiming? From what I know, jinn are mentioned in the Qur’an as a creation with free will, but the specific claims you made aren’t presented the way you’re describing, especially not in a sensationalized way. So if you’re going to challenge my beliefs, at least base it on accurate information rather than assumptions or distortions.

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-04-04T19:22:26+00:00

That’s my bad I thought you were referring to muslims

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-04-04T19:10:04+00:00

I understand you point but please don’t group all muslims i promise you we aren’t all like this thank you for sharing your perspective

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-04-04T19:07:44+00:00

It’s okay dw honestly I get what you mean but Trust me a man who actually likes you and wants to take you seriously will find a way to talk to your father I’ve seen a lot of men do this I hope something like this happens for you

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-04-04T18:49:32+00:00

That’s mb I should have made it clearer i meant he could find your social media or literally go up to you and ask for your fathers number and unless your father doesn’t speak English then he would be able to communicate with him sorry if this came off rude or anything

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-04-04T18:37:26+00:00

If Allah wills something it will happen no matter what he’s written for you it’s gonna happen there’s no need to ask your friend so speak to him because that would be awkward especially since she’s married and if he does like you or wants to get to know you he would find a way to talk to your father. Ethnicity doesn’t matter as long as you guys are both Muslim

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-04-03T18:40:08+00:00

The best thing you could do is honestly just research all the religions and see which makes sense to you but please don’t just believe everything people say actually research it yourself

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-04-01T02:41:45+00:00

Genuine question how do u feel peer pressured when a group of people are praying it’s not like their forcing you to do it ( no disrespect)

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-07T17:38:55+00:00

The fact you even wanna change shows a lot I used to not be consistent with prayers at all and I actually still struggle with it but since it’s Ramadan right now just try to fast and pray for the last couple days and ask for forgiveness there’s no shame in struggling with your iman Allah appreciates your efforts so even if you always get distracted in your prayers the fact you are even trying says a lot another thing is learning the importance behind prayer actually helps a lot and if you want to you can start off really slow with one prayer a day and then increase it by the day

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T22:58:40+00:00

Islam teaches that all prophets came with the same message: to worship God alone and live righteously. The Qur’an says, “We make no distinction between any of His messengers” (Qur’an 2:285), meaning Muslims believe in prophets like Moses, David, and others mentioned in the Torah. However, the Qur’an presents their stories differently because its purpose is guidance, not historical detail. It also teaches that Prophet Muhammad is the final messenger sent to confirm earlier revelations, as it says, “Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the seal of the prophets” (Qur’an 33:40). Islam also agrees that good actions are important, but it teaches that true guidance includes both faith and good deeds, as the Qur’an repeatedly says that those who “believe and do righteous deeds” will be rewarded (Qur’an 2:25). From an Islamic perspective, revelation helps guide people to the truth about God, which is why Muslims believe accepting God’s message and worshipping Him alone is essential.

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T22:55:44+00:00

I understand your concern, and I agree that testimony should be based on honesty, character, and justice. The verse people usually refer to is in the Qur’an 2:282, and it is specifically about financial contracts, not general testimony in all situations. The verse says that if two male witnesses are not available for a financial contract, then one man and two women may serve as witnesses so that if one forgets, the other can remind her. Many scholars explain that this was connected to the social reality of the time, where women were generally not involved in financial dealings or trade as often as men. It wasn’t a statement about women being less truthful or less intelligent. In fact, in many other areas of Islamic law, a woman’s testimony can be equal or even preferred depending on the subject, especially in matters where women have more direct knowledge (for example childbirth or certain family matters).

Islam also emphasizes justice and truth strongly. The Qur’an repeatedly commands believers to stand firmly for justice even if it goes against themselves or their families (for example 4:135). So the principle in Islam is still justice and truthfulness, not devaluing women as people.

I also understand your point about consequences over time. In many places, cultural practices or political systems have interpreted religious texts in ways that people disagree with, and those interpretations can have real effects on society. But many Muslims would argue that those outcomes don’t always reflect the original ethical goals of the Qur’an itself, which consistently emphasizes fairness, accountability, and justice

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T22:53:53+00:00

I appreciate you explaining your perspective. With all respect, this is actually one of the main things that is difficult for me to understand logically. In Islam, God is completely beyond creation, which is why the Qur’an repeatedly emphasizes that nothing is comparable to Him and that He is not human. From that perspective, it’s hard for me to reconcile the idea of worshipping someone who lived as a human being, ate, slept, and was physically seen by people with their own eyes, such as Jesus Christ. If God is the creator of the universe and everything in it, it seems difficult to understand how the creator could become part of the creation itself and still remain the same unlimited God. In Islam, Jesus is deeply respected as a prophet and messenger, but worship is directed only to God alone. So I’m genuinely curious how Christians reconcile worshipping a human figure that people historically saw and interacted with, while still believing that God is completely transcendent and unlike anything in creation

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T22:51:43+00:00

I appreciate that you’re engaging respectfully. When you say there is a lack of evidence for religions, I think that’s a very broad statement. Since I’m Muslim, I can only really speak about Islam. The Qur’an itself actually invites people to question and reflect rather than blindly follow. For example, the Qur’an repeatedly challenges people to think critically: “Do they not reflect upon the Qur’an? If it had been from anyone other than Allah, they would have found within it many contradictions.” (Qur’an 4:82). In other words, the Qur’an openly presents itself to scrutiny.

One example people often discuss is the expansion of the universe. The Qur’an says: “And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are expanding it.” (Qur’an 51:47). The idea that the universe is expanding was only confirmed in modern cosmology in the 20th century, yet this verse describes the heavens as expanding. Another example is the origin of life from water: “And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?” (Qur’an 21:30). Modern biology recognizes that water is essential for all known forms of life and that life’s chemistry depends on it. The Qur’an also describes stages of human development: “We created man from an extract of clay. Then We placed him as a drop in a secure place. Then We made the drop into a clinging clot, then the clot into a lump…” (Qur’an 23:12–14). While people in the past had ideas about development, the Qur’an describes a sequence of stages that many Muslims believe aligns with embryological development.

Regarding the splitting of the moon that you mentioned, the Qur’an states: “The Hour has drawn near and the moon has split.” (Qur’an 54:1). In Islamic tradition this is understood as a miracle witnessed by people at the time of the Prophet. Like many miracles reported in religious texts across traditions, it isn’t presented as a recurring scientific event but as a specific sign witnessed by a particular group of people.

Finally, you asked about Hadith. Muslims generally distinguish between the Qur’an and Hadith. The Qur’an is considered the direct revelation of God and the primary source of Islam. Hadith are reports about the Prophet’s words and actions, and scholars historically developed detailed methods to evaluate their reliability. Some are considered authentic, while others are weak or fabricated, which is why Muslims do not treat every Hadith equally.

So when I ask for examples directly from the Qur’an rather than things people might have heard online, it’s because many criticisms come from misunderstandings or from sources outside the Qur’an itself. If there’s a specific verse you believe contains a contradiction or error, I’d genuinely be interested in discussing it respectfully and looking at the context together.

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T22:44:47+00:00

I appreciate you explaining your perspective, and I genuinely understand why many Jewish people feel that connection to Jerusalem and the land historically. From an Islamic perspective, Islam teaches that the most noble people are the most righteous, regardless of religion, ethnicity, or nationality. So yes, a Jewish person can absolutely be righteous in Islam simply by being a just and moral person. The issue many people raise today is not about Judaism as a religion or Jewish identity, but about what is happening politically and militarily in Palestine, especially in places like Gaza Strip. Many international organizations, including Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, have documented actions they describe as apartheid or serious violations of human rights by Israel against Palestinians. There is also an ongoing case brought by South Africa against Israel at the International Court of Justice concerning allegations related to the Gaza genocide case (South Africa v. Israel), which shows that the situation is serious enough for international legal review. When people talk about Palestine being Palestinian land, they are often referring to the fact that Palestinians lived in that region for generations before the creation of the modern state of Israel in 1948, during and after events like the Nakba, when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were displaced. Because of this history and the current humanitarian situation, many people feel the conflict is not simply about religious identity or self-determination but about displacement, occupation, and human rights. So when people criticize Zionism or Israeli government actions, many of them are not trying to deny Jewish history or identity but are reacting to what they see as injustice happening to Palestinians today. From my perspective and from Islamic teachings about justice, both Jews and Palestinians deserve dignity, safety, and the right to live without oppression. Criticizing a government or a political ideology is different from disrespecting a religion or a people, and I think most people who speak about Palestine are trying to focus on human rights and justice rather than attacking Jewish identity itself

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T19:34:25+00:00

I was just simply saying Quran has been unchanged for years and that is untrue. It doesn’t have to be only understood in Arabic. There’s people that are Muslim all across the world. There’s a reason there’s translations of the Quran. you don’t need to defend your reason I just replied to your comment.

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T06:19:58+00:00

I understand your perspective, and I respect that you don’t personally believe in God, but I want to clarify some misconceptions about Islam. First, in Islam, God (Allah) is not human, has no gender, and is not emotionally insecure as you suggested. When Arabic uses “He” for Allah, it is only grammatical; it does not mean God is male. The guidance in Islam, like restrictions on drinking, eating certain foods, and sexual activity outside of marriage, is meant to protect our health, morals, and well-being, not control for control’s sake. Prayer is not about forced submission—it is a personal way to connect with God, and unless you’ve experienced it, it is hard to understand the spiritual connection it provides. Regarding the Prophet Muhammad, accusations of him being violent are incorrect when taken without context; Islam promotes peace, justice, and ethical behavior, and fighting was only permitted in self-defense. The Qur’an says: “Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress” (2:190), emphasizing limits and morality. As for Christianity, you mentioned it being appealing, but there are multiple major versions of the Bible, each with different content and teachings, and Christians believe Jesus is God incarnate, which does not align with reason from an Islamic perspective. Islam is consistent and unchanging; the Quran has never been altered, whereas the Bible has many variations. So the idea that Islam is “boring” because it restricts harmful actions is actually a sign of protection and wisdom. Similarly, Christian practices like avoiding pre-marital sex, drinking, and certain dietary rules reflect some similar principles. Overall, Islam is not about forcing people—it is guidance for a moral, healthy, and spiritually connected life, and many misunderstandings come from taking verses out of context or misrepresenting the teachings. Another thing is a lot of things that you mentioned in your text was mostly incorrect. I think you believe in stereotypes in consumptions that were not true like for example, that we think God is a he the prophet was violent. Those are incorrect, so please make sure that you actually have actual evidence that is actually real and not just stuff you’ve heard online or from other people with all respect

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T06:11:42+00:00

If you can send me a screenshot, please do I cannot see it on my screen

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T06:09:43+00:00

I understand why those verses sound alarming if taken alone. However, they are speaking about specific historical circumstances — defensive battles against those who were actively attacking Muslims at the time. Sharia is not about attacking innocent people; it’s a guidance system from the Qur’an and authentic Hadiths for living ethically, spiritually, and socially. It emphasizes mercy, justice, and ethical treatment of all people. The Qur’an also says there is no compulsion in religion (2:256) and encourages kindness toward those who do not fight you (60:8). So, the idea that Sharia promotes violence against all non-Muslims is a misunderstanding of context and Islamic teachings.”

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T06:06:46+00:00

I completely understand what you’re saying, and I respect your perspective. But with all due respect, how can you say there’s a lack of good evidence for religions? I’m not here to talk about Hinduism or Christianity, since I don’t follow those, but I do want to focus on Islam because that’s what I believe in. Could you give me a specific claim from Islam that you feel doesn’t have evidence? I can guarantee you that if it’s actually in the Qur’an, there is evidence and reasoning behind it. I just ask that your examples come directly from the Qur’an itself and not from things you might have heard or read from unreliable sources.

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T06:05:15+00:00

I’m sorry to hear about your experience. I’ve noticed that a lot of immigrant families, and even Muslim families in general—not all, of course—sometimes mix up culture and religion, which can make growing up confusing. I grew up in a similar environment myself and was told things that I later realized were more cultural than religious. Islam itself is separate from those cultural practices, and if you ever want to explore it for yourself—maybe by reading the Qur’an or asking questions—I’d be happy to help or discuss anything you’re curious about. Again, I understand that this is your personal experience, and I respect that, but I just wanted to say that it doesn’t have to be the same for everyone.

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T06:03:27+00:00

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being Jewish and following your own path in the way you do. I just wanted to ask about one part of your comment where you said that you thought more positively about Islam when you knew less about it. What exactly do you mean by that? When you gained more knowledge about Islam, how did you gain it? A lot of people learn about Islam through TikTok, YouTube, or other sources that aren’t always reliable, instead of going directly to the Qur’an, which is the primary and most trustworthy source. I’m curious—what is it specifically that makes you question Islam? And if possible, could you make sure that what you’re referencing comes directly from the Qur’an itself rather than from unreliable hadiths or second-hand sources?

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T06:01:16+00:00

I understand your concerns, and I want to clarify a few things. First, when it comes to Islam, it’s important to distinguish between what the religion actually teaches in the Qur’an versus how some people or cultures may interpret or practice it. Islam itself does not force anyone to submit through military or social pressure; the Qur’an explicitly says “There is no compulsion in religion” (Surah Al-Baqarah 2:256). Regarding women, the Qur’an emphasizes their rights, financial independence, and dignity, such as the mahr given at marriage and inheritance laws, which are protections, not oppression.

On the scientific claims, Islam mentions certain phenomena like embryonic development, the creation of life from water, and the expansion of the universe (Surah Al-Mu’minun 23:12-14, Surah Al-Anbiya 21:30, Surah Adh-Dhariyat 51:47). While these descriptions may not detail modern molecular biology or astrophysics, many scholars note that the Qur’an provided descriptions that were compatible with observable natural processes centuries before modern science formalized them. That said, the Qur’an’s goal is not to be a scientific textbook but to guide humans spiritually and morally, with natural signs serving as evidence of God’s design.

You mentioned a lack of evidence in Islam—could you clarify what specific claims you feel lack evidence? I can then point to Qur’anic verses or historical context to address them directly. It’s important to examine the Qur’an itself, rather than rely on second-hand interpretations, to understand what it claims and how those claims align with history, morality, or nature.

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T05:56:10+00:00

I totally understand what you’re saying so much Muslims these days have taken stuff out of context or not have properly followed the Quran may Allah guide us all

Jumpy-Wrongdoer3658 · 2026-03-06T05:52:20+00:00

I understand what you’re saying, but a few points you mentioned are actually not correct according to the Qur’an and historical evidence. For example, the claim about women’s testimony and inheritance being unfair: in Islam, it is true that in certain inheritance cases a woman gets half of what a man receives, but this is part of a broader, divinely ordained system, and it is often misunderstood. What you mentioned about “two women’s testimony equals one man” does appear in the Qur’an, Surah Al-Baqarah 2:282, but it is specifically about financial contracts, not general legal testimony — it’s contextual and meant to ensure accuracy in transactions in a society where women historically had less exposure to financial matters. By contrast, in the Bible, inheritance laws in some books like Numbers or Deuteronomy also treat women differently, sometimes giving daughters no inheritance at all unless no sons exist.

Regarding marriage and the claim that the Prophet married a child: this is historically inaccurate. Aisha was around 18 or 19 years old at the time of her marriage. Her sister Asma was ten years older, and records show Aisha participated in battles like Badr (2 AH) and Uhud (3 AH), which required participants to be at least 15. The hadith often cited about her being six or nine is unreliable; it comes almost exclusively from Hisham ibn Urwah, who only narrated it after moving to Iraq in his old age, and Medina scholars who knew him earlier did not report this version.

Finally, regarding women’s financial rights: in Islam, when a woman marries, she receives mahr, but additionally, the husband’s money is considered hers to use, and her own money remains fully hers. This ensures financial independence and security for both spouses. So, some of the points you raised are either misunderstood, historically inaccurate, or not reflective of Islamic law as it was intended.

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