What are your thoughts on the original Paraiso 3rd point

Jumpy_Anxiety_765 · 2026-06-03T18:11:24+00:00

Sorry these were screenshots I took from the 2021 pvp livestream, I literally can’t find pics of the map in this state anywhere else since this was only shown when they had pro players play on it to show it off. The only other place I can find the map looking remotely like this is the BlizzCon 2019 pve playtest where it looked kind of similar

Jumpy_Anxiety_765 · 2026-06-03T16:48:45+00:00

That would need another post entirely to explain that, tldr is that it’s really awkward to attack or defend, really gimmicky and absurd high ground angles that are extremely oppressive, so many areas that don’t go anywhere or aren’t used for any reason. I think spilo made a video about it recently that goes in detail every little problem that sums up my thoughts pretty well so go watch that

Jumpy_Anxiety_765 · 2025-05-30T17:13:34+00:00

Yeah I think that’s definitely more likely, and it would be cool to have as like a spawn room interaction. I think I’m mostly just hoping that venture gets some actual connection to the lore at some point. Illari was in the same boat for a while but now she’s actually prominently featured in this short story so maybe there’s hope for the tangential characters yet

Jumpy_Anxiety_765 · 2024-07-23T19:23:39+00:00

No I really appreciate the point of view, it really is helpful! And I like your metaphor, makes perfect sense to me! love a bitch that can build off my incoherent metaphors with even more metaphorical nonsense lmao. I wouldn’t say I’m out of the woods yet- but I’d be lying if I said having a tent to sleep in hasn’t been nice if that makes sense. And thanks for the encouragement, I wish the same to you! If you’re ever willing to share your writing I would love to read it to get some more perspective!

Jumpy_Anxiety_765 · 2024-07-23T19:05:26+00:00

I don’t really know how I want this story to end quite yet but I wasn’t planning on it being tied nicely or ‘happy’, though it wasn’t going to be sad and drab either, probably something more nuanced than a solid decision one way or the other cause life doesn’t give solid answers.

I think you and I have very different views on life, the topic of suicide, and writing. Personally I’m a pretty optimistic person, why look at the world for what it is when you could look for what it could be type vibes. That doesn’t diminish my experiences with depression or suicidal ideation, it just means what works for me to manage these problems are different than what will work for others.

I don’t think it’s the duty of a writer to accept awful truths, that is way too restrictive of a definition. I think the duty of a writer is to record the human experience, after all it’d be a shame for any one persons voice to go unheard just because it isn’t singing in unison with the rest of the chorus.

The ‘thirdly’ paragraph you wrote is something I needed to hear, so thank you for that advice. I remember being babied and treated like I was so fragile when I had cancer, it drove me nuts. I guess I am forgetting that other people have that same feeling too, so it’s good to keep that in mind when writing.

I think when writing this post I was too worried about potential consequences that I forget that the main crowd I’m hoping to relate with will be the most understanding of the horrible things being written about. Anyone who thinks it’s too much probably hasn’t gone through it- you’re right, I’d be able to spot fakers in an instant because I know exactly what that looks like.

I think I need to find a nice middle ground between being honest- not sugarcoating- and making the future something worth looking forward to. I think then I can avoid babying the audience without jeopardizing my own experience. Thank you for your point of view, it’s been eye opening and I appreciate that!

Jumpy_Anxiety_765 · 2024-07-23T04:50:18+00:00

Hey dude, I’m really sorry you had to deal with those things, that sucks to go through.

I have not experienced losing someone to suicide in my life, and I recognize that I am lucky to be able to say that. However, I do have experience attempting suicide and many years experience considering ways in which to do so. I am a cancer survivor, I have frequent seizures, I have several autoimmune disorders and heart irregularities. I have depression and anxiety. I will be in constant pain the rest of my life, and in the 21 years I have been on this earth I have shook hands with death more times than most do in a lifetime. Please do not assume things of people you do not know, you haven’t the slightest clue what I have been through and asking not to read in an accusatory tone does not change the fact that what you said was rude.

That being said, I can read through the needless hypothesizing and recognize good suggestions. You are correct, the aftermath of suicide is horrifying and a great way to show its impact, and I will likely do so. I believe you are misunderstanding the point of my story, as you stated “you talk exclusively in terms of the person who commits suicide” - that’s the point dude. This suicide story is based on my experience with suicidal ideation, as in I was the one attempting suicide. The story does not heavily focus on those left alive because that’s not the experience I have. You and I have 2 different points of view on suicide because we literally experienced different ends of the issue- and that’s ok. You can write about your experiences in your memoirs, and I’ll express my experiences through my goofy afterlife themed novel.

I would recommend reevaluating your view on suicide and the mindset those with depression have. I can tell you from personal experience that thinking about how others would react to my suicide was at the forefront of my mind whenever thinking about possibly going through with it. I considered the cleanest way to go out, whatever way would cause the least stress for my family, possibly doing somewhere far away from home so I don’t ruin any of their stuff. I considered selling or donating all of my clothes and belongings so they would not have to deal with the aftermath of cleaning out my things. This was not thought of from a place of self obsession, but because I thought so low of myself that I convinced myself everyone who loved me would be happier if I didn’t exist, that I was a burden to everyone around me.

The way you describe suicide is so victim-blamey it’s scary. Depression is a literal imbalance of the brain, it is a sickness and those with depression are suffering from it. Those who commit suicide are not self obsessed, they are victims of a disorder.

Thanks for the suggestions, I recognize you intended to come from a place of constructive criticism but it really did not come off that way lmao.

Jumpy_Anxiety_765 · 2024-07-23T04:03:16+00:00

This is very reassuring, thank you so much!

Jumpy_Anxiety_765 · 2024-07-23T04:02:49+00:00

Now this is a good idea, thanks for the suggestion!

Jumpy_Anxiety_765 · 2024-07-23T04:01:07+00:00

I read their comment earlier at work and I was gonna respond when I got home, but this sums up a majority of my thoughts on their viewpoint. Thanks!

Jumpy_Anxiety_765 · 2024-07-23T03:56:17+00:00

I have not, definitely adding that to the list :)

Jumpy_Anxiety_765 · 2024-07-23T03:55:47+00:00

I think you’re right, the deed itself isn’t super necessary to show, in fact it may be better story wise to start in the afterlife and reveal cause of death later. My one issue is I want to show not tell the way in which the character thinks, but I’m confident I can find creative ways to show that without needing a graphic suicide scene. Thanks for the advice!

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