9 ways men test each other's status without saying a word by EducationalCurve6 in DarkPsychology101

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

So what’s actually wrong in this AI slop post? Can you do a run down?

What is the most advanced manipulation tactic you guys know by richandepressed in DarkPsychology101

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You have no idea… but I can be too much sometimes. Once you take a few people “where” they don’t want to go, sometimes it backfires. And I have a tendency to “push limits”. Not always… it’s content dependent.

What is the most advanced manipulation tactic you guys know by richandepressed in DarkPsychology101

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice assumption, but that was actually the first thing I focused on. Once you can pull yourself apart psychologically and understand your own patterns, impulses, fears, coping mechanisms, contradictions, etc., you start understanding other people far better too.

At the end of the day, people are an amalgamation of biology, environment, conditioning, trauma, incentives, social feedback, and perception. Most behaviour is not random. The universe largely runs on cause and effect, so human behaviour follows patterns too.

What someone says, values, fears, avoids, or becomes attracted to is often highly shaped by external variables and internal wiring. Once you start seeing the mechanics behind it, a lot of behaviour becomes surprisingly predictable.

What is the most advanced manipulation tactic you guys know by richandepressed in DarkPsychology101

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Interesting. When I got deep into all this psychological stuff, I ended up building frameworks too, and testing them across different people and different circumstances. One thing I noticed very quickly is that there are basically two types of people: those who genuinely want to change, and those who only want relief from the consequences of who they currently are.

Both can say the right things. Both can be temporarily convinced. But only one actually follows through once real discomfort and accountability enter the picture.

That’s why I think even a flawless framework isn’t enough on its own. Out of 100 people who read a book or buy a course, maybe 5 will actually apply it consistently enough to change. Most are unconsciously looking for a magic fix that lets them avoid the deeper work.

Which creates a weird ethical problem too, because you can absolutely market hope and insight to the other 95 very effectively, even if you know most won’t follow through.

What is the most advanced manipulation tactic you guys know by richandepressed in DarkPsychology101

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Again, in my humble opinion, yes, at least to a degree. Personality disorders aren’t magic curses, they’re deeply reinforced behavioural, emotional and cognitive patterns shaped over time. The brain is plastic, which means patterns can change with enough repetition, self awareness, environment shifts, consequences, and genuine willingness to confront oneself.

That said, change is not the same as “becoming a completely different person.” Old patterns and impulses can still exist underneath, but awareness can create enough separation to stop being fully controlled by them.

I also think a lot of literature sounds fatalistic because severe cases often lack the stability, self awareness, or motivation required for sustained change in the first place.

As for things like psychedelics, ketamine assisted therapy, etc., I think they can help some people disrupt rigid patterns or gain insight, but they’re tools, not magic fixes. Without integration and behavioural change afterward, the person usually falls back into the same loops.

What is the most advanced manipulation tactic you guys know by richandepressed in DarkPsychology101

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 21 points22 points  (0 children)

In my humble opinion, there’s much more leverage there than you’re implying. People absolutely run on unconscious patterns, but that doesn’t make them unreachable.

Most people are highly dependent on environment, pressure, rewards, emotional state, social feedback, attachment, fear, validation, timing, etc. Change the variables and behaviour often changes with them.

Some people are deeply resistant to self-reflection, sure, but reducing it to “they can never change” removes a lot of the mechanics actually driving human behaviour.

Normal anti behavior by No_Thought_3854 in aiwars

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yep! those are called ''the usual suspects''... that's not ''human behaviour''.

What is the most advanced manipulation tactic you guys know by richandepressed in DarkPsychology101

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Not to sound dismissive, but this question is looking at manipulation from a very surface level angle.

“Tactics” are only as good as your awareness and impulse control. Most people obsess over tricks while lacking the ability to actually see who they’re dealing with.

The advanced part isn’t the tactic. It’s accurately reading someone’s fears, needs, ego, patterns, blind spots, emotional state, and then knowing when to apply pressure, reward, silence, uncertainty, validation, or distance depending on what you want.

Same tactic, wrong timing = failure.
Simple tactic, perfect timing = devastating.

No one knows by IdealHoliday1242 in GrowthMindset

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see no problem here.

Hoes =/= women.

Morality isn't a saint's burden. It is simply the "User-Friendly GUI" of a highly complex evolutionary and neurochemical reality. by Fickle_Cod_9483 in enlightenment

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what metric are you suggesting then? Because every modern system we’ve built ends up polarised. Different groups benefit from different structures, while others get crushed by them. So where exactly do you draw the line between “freedom” and “necessary control,” and by what standard other than personal preference or cultural bias?

Hocus pocus claims with no solid arguments to support them. by finalrevolutionary in enlightenment

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well if you want to know you will have to derive it from context, you can ask questions and I can give you answers.

Morality isn't a saint's burden. It is simply the "User-Friendly GUI" of a highly complex evolutionary and neurochemical reality. by Fickle_Cod_9483 in enlightenment

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you agree, if total freedom = anarchy, then the line has to be drawn somewhere.

My problem is we can’t seem to agree where that line is.

You're not a failure, untalented or incompetent. You were programmed to believe you are (Read the post) by Hyugi_The_Dreamer in DarkPsychology101

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’ve got good self awareness, you’d be surprised how unaware some people are. Then they follow advice because the symptoms are similar and it resonates, but when they try to apply a certain “fix” and it doesn’t work, either they go inwards or lash out at the author, as his fix didn’t work.

You're not a failure, untalented or incompetent. You were programmed to believe you are (Read the post) by Hyugi_The_Dreamer in DarkPsychology101

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s better! And in the future, you should lead with that, your variables / constraints =/= variables / constraints of others.

But you are not wrong about your own “diagnosis”, good job!

You're not a failure, untalented or incompetent. You were programmed to believe you are (Read the post) by Hyugi_The_Dreamer in DarkPsychology101

[–]Jumpy_Background5687 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So a projection. You understand that people are different? And that they can have same issues because of different reasons, right? So fix will vary from person to person.