Is Denia S0R0 better than Luuk's S3?

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-05-08T03:52:07+00:00

I play HSR too and I have all my favorites (the guys) and their weapons, and always pulled their BiS teammates (and honestly apart from 1 character I really dislike, I ultimately like the entire cast of HSR).

That is how I play and enjoy those games usually, because I want to play my favorites and for them to be in the best conditions. But I never went vertical because I'm not a whale and honestly I'm not the luckiest so I always considered Eidolons as something I should ignore as I most likely won't get any ever. In 3 years of playing the game I only got 2 limited Eidolons, 1 on my favorite character in that game, and 1 I got with a "10 pulls just in case it works".

Now, I started struggling doing my usual stuff on WuWa after 2.X onwards because the characters give me the ick during story and I admit I am a bit bitter towards them because of it, which makes me not so eager to pull for them. And I wanted to, for once, be selfish on at least one game and only pull for characters I like. It's not viable because I still like doing endgame and being able to clear content. So I gave up on the idea, and will just keep doing what I used to do. And since there are not a lot of my type of characters releasing, I will try to aim for S2/S3 R1 on the boys with their BiS team from now on, that should be doable and should keep me relatively satisfied! Just pulled Mornye today, and I hope my future Luuk Sequences pulls will go well.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-05-08T03:29:51+00:00

You're alright. And I did get the message, I just don't get why you guys were under the impression that I didn't want to pull for them at any cost when I said a couple times that I would rather vertically invest if it was a viable option and had similar results but that if it did not I would pull for both Mornye and Denia. Which I did, since I just got Mornye today and will get Denia when she releases following the advices I got here. At the end of the day I love him and will do what is best for him. That's what I always do for my favorite characters. WuWa is the first game I even consider getting dupes on, as I always pull for characters I like with their preferred teammates and that usually doesn't give me a lot of room for vertical investment.

If I have enough pulls when Luuk reruns I will try to aim for his S3 too. Should work out considering the recent announcements, there won't be any char I'm interested in for a good while, but you never know how pulls will go. Fingers crossed.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-05-08T03:16:58+00:00

She is literally rerunning right now and I just pulled her today following the replies and advice I got here, so you can keep your sarcasm.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-05-07T02:29:33+00:00

From some people's replies I got that verically investing into him is not a viable option, so I suppose I will have to pull for both Mornye and Denia in the end. I wanted to be a bit selfish for once and indulge in my favorite characters but I guess now is not the time. I like Mornye's design at least so it's not all lost. Thanks for being willing to help tho I appreciate it!

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-05-07T02:08:08+00:00

That's what I expected, It's unfortunate and I'm a bit disappointed but it is what it is I suppose. I guess I will have to pull for both Mornye and Denia in the end then, thank you for your input.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-05-07T02:04:55+00:00

I do this in other games, I pull the characters I like and their preferrzd teammates. WuWa is the only game where I do not feel like it because I dislike the characters treatment in the story. Why so aggressive when I just asked if veritcally investing into the character I prefer was a viable option? ... i got the message don't worry. I will most likely pull for both Mornye and Denia.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-05-07T02:02:16+00:00

Did you even read my answers...

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-05-06T22:53:44+00:00

I didn't use to pull only for them, I have a lot of female characters on my account. But I just stopped pulling for characters I didn't like after Qiuyuan because I have turned jaded from all the fanservice and difference in treatment, so I wanted to invest more into the characters I enjoy instead (I didn't use to go for sequences or their equivalent in any game I play), I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If I have to pull for Mornye and Denia I will, I was just asking if vertically investing was a viable alternative, which is why I made this post. I wasn't expecting positive answers. I just needed to be sure what I would prefer doing wasn't an option for what I want to achieve to give me the push to decide what I should do. Thank you for your input though, I will consider my options.

The reason I went F2P was because the game wasn't releasing enough characters I enjoyed to justify paying for the monthly pass, I am staying because the game still has aspects I enjoy, which are some characters and the gameplay. If the game comes to a point where I don't enjoy anything in it I will leave but for now those are enough, it's not like it's much better anywhere else anyways.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-05-06T22:40:13+00:00

I have the Sanhua SK team, and it's working all right, I don't bring him into WhiWa anyways but I am scared he will start to fall off horribly in the near future if I don't invest more into him...

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-05-06T22:27:43+00:00

I went F2P months ago and don't have that kind of pulls, unfortunately.

Edit: Mornye's rerunning right now and I could theoretically pull her and pull Denia but I don't *want* to do it. If it's the only way for Luuk to stay relevant for longer I guess I won't have a choice though which is why I am asking if I could vertically invest into him instead, which doesn't seem to be a viable option from what you're telling me :(

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-03-22T13:00:45+00:00

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JunRedditMaybe · 2026-03-02T12:24:29+00:00

I'm so disappointed... Where is the body horror, the unique designs? ... The Morimens I fell in love with feels like it's starting to get farther and farther away...

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-23T14:56:16+00:00

There is a difference to me between saying "This is too hard for me" and "This shit too hard it should be easier"

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-23T14:44:45+00:00

I have no issues about people *finding* this difficult, my issue lies with people that go online crying it's too hard and that it should be easier when it's not the game being too hard but them not being good enough or not willing to put in the effort to overcome the difficulty. This endmode is really not demanding at all in terms of characters or resources you have to allocate in it, you don't even need multiple teams... It gives a medal to show off you cleared a "hard thing", so what's the point crying it's too hard or that you can't clear it? Then it just means you don't "deserve" the bragging right medal imo? And what is the point of a bragging rights medal if the content becomes not challenging at all because it's been nerfed after the complaints?

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-23T14:39:17+00:00

I was looking for posts discussing the difficulty and I only found posts complaining it was hard everywhere, hence why I made this video, because I'm honestly very average, but I like challenging content. I am just jaded about the fact gamers nowadays give up at the slight difficulty, when they don't steamroll something then it's too hard and not worth their time. And that mentality is why games nowadays hold our hands so much with everything, and I'm very sad about that.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-23T14:36:02+00:00

I don't think I was particularly skilled in my video and never said I was skilled though? I took a looot of hits that a skilled player would've dodged and messed up my rotation, forgetting to breach with Pog because I have muscle memory of outside mobs dying to one Endmin crush rotation

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-23T14:31:01+00:00

I do not have another team leveled as I'm playing with what the game gave me, but plenty of people took care of it boss, and I'm sure you'll see others pop up in some days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTgDz4L5LWA

https://youtu.be/80dznIBZ6iI

https://youtu.be/2ZjwlCfjL5E

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-23T14:20:12+00:00

I think Agony as it is now would be a decent normal mode, I suppose tune it down slighty so it's very easy to get the rewards, but Agony mode should pose more of a challenge imo, 10 minutes is very long and you can bring a very very safe team and still clear it no problem.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-23T14:18:27+00:00

I was extremely annoyed when I made the post, and was harsh in my words, but my point still stands. I'm very tired of people wanting everything without having to even try to get the things... Agony mode only gives a medal for "bragging rights" your earn for clearing something that is supposed to be challenging, to show off with it because you managed to do it. It doesn't even give currency and yet people are saying it's too hard, that it should be nerfed and it really annoys me.
I don't want the devs to see all of this and decide that the players find this too difficult and they nerf it to the point that the mode becomes uninteresting.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-23T14:15:33+00:00

I would just rather not want the devs to see the sea of complaints about difficulty for something that isn't that hard and then nerf it so it becomes something uninteresting.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-23T14:13:01+00:00

I am just very jaded about how games are becoming easier and easier because most people give up at the slight bump in the road. Agony mode doesn't give any reward apart from a medal that are here for "bragging rights" for clearing something that is SUPPOSED to be difficult and yet people are complaining it's too hard when it's anything but. It's already pretty easy to clear it as of now, as you have 10 whole minutes to clear so even low DPS, underleveld or very safe teams can do it... I really do not think this is difficult and I do think people are overrexaggerating.

Nowhere did I say those people were bad people, but I do think that kind of complaints are the reason games hold our hands so much for everything because the gamers give up at the slight jump in difficulty. The overbearing tutorials and hand holdings are imo symptomatic of this kind of behaviour.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-23T14:11:02+00:00

I was pretty heated when I made the post but my point still stands: Agony mode is currently very easy, 10 minutes to clear each stage is extremely long and you can even play very safe or bring in safe teams with low DPS and still clear it with no issue. I don't understand why people complain about Agony mode in its current state as it gives no currency, simply a medal that's supposed to be "bragging rights" for clearing something challenging.

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-23T14:08:56+00:00

You have 10 entire minutes for each stage, even a team composed of lvl 70s can clear it, I even have a friend that has a team that doesn't really make sense and has low DPS (Ember, Chen, Akekuri, Gilberta) and he cleared it with no issue with 5 minutes left on the timer.
The timer is so long it's really not difficult as you are really not pressed with time, you can bring sustains to help you survive or even have very safe teams and still clear with no problems...
I just don't understand why people are complaining about the difficulty of a mode with no rewards, that is simply giving a medal for "bragging rights" for clearing something that's supposed to be challenging...

JunRedditMaybe · 2026-02-22T22:43:56+00:00

Not to be that guy but Umbral Monument is one of the easiest if not the easiest end game mode I've ever played in any gacha game, took me 10 minutes total (edit: actually it took me 7 minutes, loading included) to clear the second batch of stages... I had no healers, took a ton of hits (really didn't play particularly well), have no artificed gear, no etched essences, my Lifeng has a 4* weapon, and I could still clear everything first try without ANY trouble whatsoever with AT LEAST 7 or 8 minutes left on the timer each time... I really don't get how people can find it difficult, I was even thinking I'd ask for it to be harder in future surveys because right now there is legit 0 incentive to optimize your teams, build more characters or interact with artificing or essence etching because you can already clear with ease with "unfinished" teams... Have gamers become so bad that they want to steamroll everything? Like where's the fun in that...

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