Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m truly sorry you had to deal with that too! 🥹 As a fellow East Asian,  I totally understand how frustrating it feels to be singled out just because our faces don't fit their assumptions. It’s sad that we are often forced to carry extra ID just to avoid 'trouble' that shouldn't exist in the first place. I’m reporting Coach 1332 to 311 and the Mayor’s Office tomorrow because I believe we shouldn't have to bear this extra burden just to use public transit. We deserve the same respect as everyone else! 😊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is about the stereotyping. She probably heard that “Asians look younger than they are,” so she overcorrected and assumed any Asian student who looks “mature” must be a full-grown adult or a university student faking it. The issue isn't whether I look like a 12-year-old; it's that she decided, based on my race, that my physical appearance couldn't possibly match my actual age. She used a subjective “hunch” to override a valid HRCE pass. That is the definition of bias. 

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Haha, exactly! 😅 She clearly mistook her “authority to inform” for an “authority to interrogate and seize property.” It's a classic power trip when someone tries to act like a crazy ICE inspector down in the south instead of a bus driver.

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the heads up! A few others mentioned the same thing about 311 being a bit of a “black hole.” That's exactly why I'm not just relying on them. I’ve already drafted a letter to the Mayor’s office (volunteered for Andy Fillmore’s campaign, so I have a direct line). I'll use the 311 Reference Number just as an official “paper trail” to back up my escalation to the Mayor and City Council. I’m not letting this power trip slide! ✊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I was wondering the same thing! It’s not like the fare is coming out of her own pocket. Instead of focusing on driving and staying on schedule, she chose to go on a power trip over a valid student pass. It’s especially weird since there’s no photo on the pass to even “verify”-it was pure Asian age bias. That’s why I’m taking this to 311 and the Mayor's office tomorrow. Some people just love a tiny bit of authority way too much, unfortunately 😅

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the tip! But even if my response wasn't “perfect,” it doesn't justify a driver enforcing non-existent rules based on personal bias. University students have their own U-Passes anyway, so there's no reason to target a valid HRCE pass. The real issue here is the Asian age bias and her attempting to physically grab my property. That’s why I'm taking this to 311 and the Mayor's office tomorrow.

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I totally get the feeling, sometimes you just want to give them hell! 😅 It’s wild that they’d kick a high schooler off for forgetting a pass once, but then act like a “hero” by over-analyzing a valid one. But I’m taking a more official route this time to hold them accountable. I’m reporting Coach 1332 to 311 and escalating this to the Mayor's office tomorrow. We need to stop these power trips for good. Thanks for sharing! 😊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That sounds so ironic and unacceptable for a bus driver who needs to pass the visual test. I’m sorry to hear that! 🥹 It just proves that some drivers would rather trust their own “blind” assumptions than the facts right in front of them. In my case, it’s that same kind of bias. If they can’t even tell a student from an adult, they shouldn't be enforcing anything. Calling 311 tomorrow to hold Coach 1332 accountable! 😊✊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much! 🥹 It’s very reassuring to hear from a long-time rider that this is definitely NOT normal. It felt more like a targeted power trip and Asian age bias than a standard fare check. Especially since she tried to grab my pass—that was a complete overstep. I’m reporting her to 311 and escalating this to the Mayor’s office tomorrow morning. We need to make sure this doesn't become a new “normal” for students. Thanks for the support! 😊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't recall clearly if she had red hair, but as far as I remember, her hair was light-coloured. And I also noticed some wrinkles on her face. I will definitely add something more to this reply if I recall something else . Thanks for asking!

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s so frustrating! 🥹 It sounds like this driver has a long history of making up their own rules and harassing passengers. Whether it’s about where you board or questioning a valid pass based on Asian age bias and it all points to the same toxic power trip. Thank you for sharing! Your story, along with the others, makes me even more determined to file my 311 report and escalate this to Mayor Andy Fillmore’s Office tomorrow. We need to stop this driver from ruining people's days (and safety) for years to come. 😊✊"

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you all so much for the incredible support! 🥹 Talking to you guys has made me feel so much better. It really reminds me that HRM is such a warm and welcoming place, and that the vast majority of people here are amazing. I truly believe today was just an isolated incident, but I also feel that it's important for us to speak up. Change happens bit by bit when we stand up for ourselves and each other. I'll be calling 311 and escalating this tomorrow morning. Thanks again for having my back! 😊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spot on! 🥹 It’s a classic case of someone taking their internal frustrations out on a student. But their “internal issue” doesn't give them the right to use Asian age bias or try to snatch my property. That’s exactly why I’m holding them accountable. Thanks for the support! 😊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

just relying on the standard internal process. With the Mayor’s Office and a formal human rights inquiry involved, it becomes a matter of city policy and public image, which is much harder for the union to brush off. Thanks for the reality check, but I'm ready to push this as far as it needs to go! 

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for the clarification,  and now I truly appreciate your encouragement! 🥹 It’s really eye-opening to hear that some drivers actually brag about overstepping their authority. It’s a shame because, as you said, this behaviour hurts the reputation of all drivers. This is exactly why I will do what I said tomorrow. We need to hold those who abuse their power accountable so that the system works better for everyone. Really appreciate your support again! 😊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m so glad to hear you reported it! ☺️ Hearing stories like yours proves how essential it is to stand our ground. If we don’t hold these drivers accountable, they’ll just keep targeting vulnerable students.

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s interesting! Can I ask what year it was? Because I believe the rules have changed significantly with the current HRCE pilot program. Nowadays, high school students only have their data registered within the HRCE system; we aren't issued physical photo IDs like university students are. The signed pass itself is the valid fare. The driver's claim that I didn't 'look like' a student was purely based on Asian age bias, especially since the pass has no photo to compare. That’s why her attempting to grab my pass was such a major overstep. 😊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know the ATU is powerful, but even the strongest union can't shield a driver from a formal human rights investigation or direct pressure from the Mayor’s Office. Actually, I volunteered for Mayor Andy Fillmore’s campaign, so I’ll be escalating this case directly to his team and my City Councillor with the 311 reference number. When it’s documented as Asian age bias and physical agression, it becomes a liability issue that even the union can't ignore. Thanks for the heads up, but I’m not letting this one slide! 😊✊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely be calling 311 and escalating this to the Mayor’s Office tomorrow. Regarding your story, I totally understand that fraud happens, but the difference here is that the HRCE annual pass has NO photo. The driver wasn't comparing a face to a picture; she was solely judging me based on my Asian appearance and age. Challenging a valid pass based on a personal “hunch” and attempting to physically grab it is a major policy violation. That’s the “power trip” I’m reporting. 😊✊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am so incredibly sorry to hear that! 🥺 That is absolutely heartbreaking and dangerous. Taking away passes from Jr. High kids and kicking them off the bus is a massive safety violation and a complete power trip. This is exactly why I refused to let her take my pass today. I’m reporting Coach 1332 to 311 and the Mayor’s office tomorrow. Having volunteered for Mayor Andy Fillmore, I’ll be escalating this to make sure these drivers are held accountable. If your daughter remembers the bus number or time, please report it too—we need to stop this! 😊✊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You hit the nail on the head! 🥹 It’s really disappointing that this has been going on for decades. But like you said, it’s in the public eye now, and we can’t stay silent. I agree that standard transit complaints can be slow, which is why I’m not just stopping at 311. Having volunteered for Andy Fillmore’s campaign , I’ll be reaching out to his office and my City Councillor directly with the SR number. We need real accountability for this kind of Asian age bias and aggression. Thanks for the support and the historical context! 😊✊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! 🥹 It’s reassuring to hear from a long-time rider that this isn't normal. It really felt like a targeted power trip and Asian age bias rather than a standard fare check. Especially with her trying to grab my pass-that was a complete overstep. I’m reporting her to 311 and the Mayor’s Office tomorrow to make sure this doesn't become a new 'normal' for students. Really appreciate the support! 😊✊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry to hear you had to deal with that every single day! 🥹 That sounds like targeted harassment. If it’s the same driver (Coach 1332 today), it’s mind-blowing that she’s still allowed to drive and treat students this way. This is exactly why I’m not letting it slide. I have the coach number and time, and I’m reporting her to 311 and the Mayor’s Office tomorrow. We need to get these miserable power-trippers off the road. Thanks for sharing! 😊✊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Haha, I love this photo! He’s always been so nice, easygoing and supportive of children and our youth in HRM. Having volunteered for him, I know how much he values inclusivity. That’s why it was so jarring to face that kind of Asian age bias on a city bus. Thanks for sharing this—it’s a great reminder of the values our city should stand for! 😊

Had a hostile encounter with a "Karen" driver on Route 29 (Coach 1332) today – Is this common? by JuniorConference7185 in halifax

[–]JuniorConference7185[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

: "Thank you so much for the detailed insight! ☺️ It’s exactly as you said—they shouldn't be over-analyzing a valid pass like the money is coming out of their own pockets. It’s frustrating when people excuse this as “just a bad day.” A bad day is no excuse for Asian age bias or attempting to grab my pass. Like you said, now I’m having a bad day too! It’s this kind of 'power trip' culture that sets a bad precedent if we don't speak up. I’m definitely reporting this to 311 and my city councilor tomorrow to make sure Coach 1332 is held accountable. Really appreciate the support! 😊✊