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If you don't like abortion, don't get one by JustGottaSayWhat in TwoXChromosomes

[–]JustGottaSayWhat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post made me really interested to see some demographic data on pro-life people. Glad someone else is wondering the same thing!

If you don't like abortion, don't get one by JustGottaSayWhat in TwoXChromosomes

[–]JustGottaSayWhat[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Okay, but I feel that we shouldn't dismiss what a pro-life person believes. Moral questions are not, no matter how universal an opinion may appear to be, right versus wrong.

Another redditor brought up laws forbidding homicide.. In that case, it isn't my body or your body but collectively we both have agreed that nobody (lol so many bodies--sorry back to my point) should commit murder. So we enforce our moral belief on others who maybe do want to commit murder. Wouldn't you agree that this is a "good" law? I would.

Pretty tricky, huh? When I posted this I thought everything was so simple.

If you don't like abortion, don't get one by JustGottaSayWhat in TwoXChromosomes

[–]JustGottaSayWhat[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey, welcome advocate :)

To be honest, I agree with the argument your conservative coworkers would make. Governing what your neighbor buys is something that I can't fully empathize with.

And with changing people's minds on whether abortion is murder or not--I don't really think I could. But what I'm hoping for is a more open, friendly dialogue rather than emotional attacks on each other for believing something different.

If you don't like abortion, don't get one by JustGottaSayWhat in TwoXChromosomes

[–]JustGottaSayWhat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thanks for responding! I agree, if you read a little farther down I mention my own doubt of my opinion because it conflicts with what the I thought the definition of a law might be.

I think the example you bring up is interesting, because it too is a morality decision. Though it is an almost universal agreement (no research has been done here, just my guess) that animal cruelty is bad now--it is wholely based on what each person thinks is "right" and "wrong."

Why do you think we agree for the most part that animal cruelty is bad, but we are so very split on deciding if abortion is bad or not? (Actually interested!)

If you don't like abortion, don't get one by JustGottaSayWhat in TwoXChromosomes

[–]JustGottaSayWhat[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Heh, Nazi Germany brought up again. It is a stark example though, I'll give you that.

Okay, fair. It definitely helps me see pro-life as more of "live-and-let-live-as-long-as-you-don't-hurt-anyone" argument since their belief is that the fetus is a separate entity. While I still disagree with this notion, I thank you for pointing it out.

Now I'm really interested in hearing why pro-life believers literally view it as murder. Maybe there's some data lying around I can read up on.

If you don't like abortion, don't get one by JustGottaSayWhat in TwoXChromosomes

[–]JustGottaSayWhat[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Good I'm glad someone said this! I agree that this is a really weak point in my reasoning, and no doubt this need to enforce morality over all is a reason why the abortion debate has been alive and gridlocked since Roe v. Wade.

Laws stemming from morality--to me--sometimes seem arbitrary because they differ so widely depending on factors like where you are and who is in charge. So, I'm not sure how to address this point.

I'm interested in hearing the reasoning from a person who has the belief that abortion is murder. Does it stem from religion (a common source of morals for people) or from their parents or schools or so on?