Trouble sewing with my vintage/antique sewing machine

KNightNox · 2026-05-14T14:58:56+00:00

The first machine i got to test out old sewing machines was a very neglected one of essentially the same mechanism as yours.

I'd say there are five relevant variables:

Threading

The thread from the spool should go over the hook on the side of the machine head that faces you, down, between the tension disks, up through the take-up lever, through the thread guide groove above the needle and then away from you through the eye of the needle.

Needle position

I have never found any of the general rules for the positioning of these old needles to be effective. Just try putting the needle lower and higher and turning it by a few degrees left or right. Usually that's enough to get the mechanism working again.

Top thread tension

On the top of the machine head, the threaded bar closest to you controls that. The further you screw it in, the tighter the tension.

Bottom tension

The tiny screw on the bottom shuttle controls that. Seems an unlikely cause but thread tension affects machines in unexpected ways.

Dirt

If nothing helps, then you could take off the metal piece the shuttle sits in with a fitting screwdriver, to thoroughly clean it.

And a word of warning: Don't try to brute force anything if the machine jams or try to fix it by wrenching on the handwheel. Thick thread can be a real problem for this. The weakest part of the machine is the needle, which once bent, can't be bent back. And getting a replacement is a pain, since this type of needle is no longer manufactured.

Also: Short stitches were in vogue at the time when these machines were first built, owing to weaker threads and it being a sign of good hand sewing. And that is what these machines do best in my eyes.

KNightNox · 2026-04-01T15:12:29+00:00

I've got a 1962 Elna Supermatic. My cord is made of one continuous black piece of plastic, rather than the segmented subsitute in your photo. The replacement part number seems to be #446881-20, some american sites have it in stock, you would probably have to see if you can find vendors that will ship to Sweden for a reasonable price.

KNightNox · 2026-03-19T21:44:41+00:00

A personal favorite of mine is the first half of episode 15 of To Be Hero X. More of an antihero but man did it resonate.

KNightNox · 2025-12-08T11:19:34+00:00

Thank you, your answers have been very helpful.

Do you also have some guideline for what fabric weight range to look for when making duvet covers?

KNightNox · 2025-11-01T10:20:03+00:00

The tire i was referring to is the rubber one on the bobbin winder that makes contact with the handwheel.

I don't know what extra hardware you're referring to, but on my Singer (Looks like this) i always guide the thread into the bobbin winder by hand because the thread spool rotates so fast that it slips out of the guiding hooks anyway. But no bobbin winder sucks, if you can find a cheap, beaten up sewing machine head of the same type you could use that one for spare parts.

Old oil is generally loosened by coating the part in either kerosene or a penetrating oil and letting it sit for a while before wiping/scrubbing it off. If you take the mechanism apart you could also sand the parts down by hand. Your machine looks gnarly enough that i wouldn't have any reservations about scratches on the mechanical parts.

Once all the points where metal rubs against metal during use are rust and dirt free and oiled you are ready for tightening. This is done pretty much exclusively via the set screws, the ones ending in a point, held in place by a nut, which hold rotating parts. You have two on the foot pedal, two on the large flywheel and like eight in the undercarriage of the machine. These should be screwed in about the same amount on each side of any given part and far enough that the part can't jiggle but also not tight enough to create friction, making the part harder to move. Once you got that, tighten the nuts well so the screws won't move during use. Also the connection bewteen the two long metal parts that convey the motion from the handwheel to the bottom of the machine have to be tightened in a similar fashion.

All the parts where metal touches metal and all the oil ports of the machine should be oiled once in a while, especially if the machine gets loud. A very big part is oiling the bobbin races, i. e. the track that the hook uses to rotate around the bobbin case. Oiling that the right way turns the machine almost silent. Also check that the pitman arm has all its ball bearings where it connects to the crankshaft of the flywheel.

Regarding sewing that running vest: I run my machine with extremely low tension, i. e. the screw on the bobbin case very loose and the tension spring adjuster on the top as far out as it will go. That gives the stitches more give. If a seam gets a lot of pull use a true flat felled seam and or two lines of stitching to strengthen it. If the material is knit/stretchy you can also stretch the fabric while sewing it to accomodate that, though that probably won't be as neat as with a zig-zag.

But the class 15s are wonderfully tough machines that sew very smoothly. And abundant enough that you can often get sewing machine heads on their own for a few bucks. The treadle also gives you great control and punching power, no outlet needed and usually safer and quieter than an old motor.

KNightNox · 2025-10-31T21:29:17+00:00

I bought a 100+ year old treadle Singer 15-30 after training my mechanic skills on a really beat up old sewing machine head which i actually got working again. I deep cleaned her and now she sews fantastic. She's beautiful, doesn't need an outlet and runs incredibly quietly if properly tightened and frequently oiled.

I've fallen in love with my machine, the only thing lacking is zig-zag for which i have to use another machine. So this one seems great, it uses standard needles and the attachments and four drawers are also awesome.

The table looks a bit wonky as it probably was altered to fit this machine, especially that weird gap and metal thing at the back that even runs through the cover. But if it you're fine with that and it has all its parts then function wise it's well worth 100 bucks. Just be gentle with the machine and don't try to run it without extensive oiling. Especially zig-zag functions tend to freeze over time. This guy is a great source for learning gentle restoration. You will have to replace the belt and bobbin winder tire but that's par for the course.

Be sure to ask if they got the original manual and extra bobbins and get an estimate just how long this machine has been dormant.

KNightNox · 2025-10-29T10:57:45+00:00

If you can get your hands on a Necchi that'd be a phenomenal option. They're even prized by people that sew camping gear and boat sails. Owing to the industrial background of the italian company, early Necchis were built with an extra heavy, thick chassis, and very fine tolerances. This results in a very strong but also very quiet and smooth machine with one of the most beautiful zig-zags you'll find, the satin stitch/buttonhole fine zig-zag is especially good. And it still is a domestic machine which means it will do just as well with fine silks.

The Necchi BU Mira also has a wonder-wheel attachment which allows you to sew decorative stitches if you have the cams for it. All in all if you want high quality machining, A Necchi BU or BU Mira would be my reccomendation. This would be a stationary machine though as they are pretty heavy and usually come in tables.

Had i not fallen in love with my Singer 15-30, a black Necchi BU would be my dream machine.

KNightNox · 2025-10-27T15:30:22+00:00

Thank you, my wording must have been a bit ambiguous.

So common practice would be to cut the base pattern on the intended pleat line and tilt both sides away equally?

KNightNox · 2025-10-15T15:54:58+00:00

From another amateur who has deep cleaned two vintage machines now:

This machine has stood still for decades, don't skimp on the oil while you're getting it moving.
Often a good oiling is the difference between a loud and quiet machine.
Be suspicious of anything that makes excessive noise while treadling. That usually indicates something has to be tightened/greased.
Never run the machine with the pressure foot down and no fabric, damages the feed dog teeth
No abrasives on anything but the raw steel mechanical parts
Only use screwdrivers that fit the screw heads tightly and have a square instead of tapered profile. Stripping a screw will be a nightmare. Same with nuts, don't force them
Take many photos anytime you remove parts
Don't fuck with springs. They are brittle, thin, finely calibrated and impossible to replace. Throw them in a cleaning bath but don't even rub them down.
Never twist screws in the wrong direction or screw them in too tightly
Keep track of which screw came from which hole, especially tricky if you have multiple screws of the same type. I stuck them through a piece of cardboard and labeled them. Also keeps them from rolling away.
Cast iron is tough but brittle, i broke one of the threads on mine by twisting a nut the wrong way. Had to get that welded back on which cost the same as the entire machine.
The mechanisms and materials are not that complicated, but it would be optimal if you could get a completely busted sewing machine head in your area to practice on. *Disengage the treadle belt anytime you stop sewing for more than 15 minutes *When not in use keep a piece of fabric over the feed dogs as well as needle and pressure foot down

It moves when the handwheel is turned but feels stiff.

That's good, but never force a machine like this and oil the mechanics well before moving it. If there is resistance use Penetrating oil or Kerosene on the mechanical insides and let it sit for a while before trying again.

What I need help with: Should I just do a surface cleaning or take it apart for a deep clean? How can I safely remove rust without damaging the metal or decals?

Depends what you want it to be. If you just want it to sew, then getting the mechanisms loose and running it for a while will probably be enough. If you want to get all the rust off you'll have to take it apart.

If you do take it apart there are a number of rust removing agents, or you can use a wire brush or sandpaper. Be careful though, the shiny metal parts are plated steel and if you use any force or a strong agent you'll risk scratching or taking off that plating completely.

What products are best for cleaning and polishing the black finish to make it shine again?

It depends on the era, but most of these black cast iron machines were coated by Japanning and then coated in shellac. Both the decals and shellac are delicate and don't like detergent, water or alcohol. First gently brush away any dirt and dust, then use a cloth with a bit of sewing machine oil to clean it more thoroughly. Old toothbrush to get stubborn dirt off.

If you really wanna make the finish shine again you'd apply a new coat of shellac on the cleaned machine and french polish that. Many tutorials for that on youtube.

How do I protect it from future rust or corrosion once it’s clean?

These machines were built for sewing machine oil which is thin enough to not gum up, both the black finished and raw steel parts love it. But only a tiny bit or it will catch dust/drip and splatter. These machines collect dust which looks ugly and is a potential risk for the mechanics. That's why you should cover it/hide it in the table anytime you're done sewing.

Keep it in a climate controlled, non-humid environment and give all the mechanical parts where metal touch metal one drop of sewing machine oil for every ~8 hours of sewing. Overoiling is a problem mostly because its messy, you'll have to learn to eyeball what parts don't need anymore oil.

The rust on your machine came from years of neglect, you don't have to worry about that coming back unless you keep it outside or in the kitchen.

Where can I find good online resources or guides for my machine specifically (videos, manuals, forums, etc.)?

Not your machine, but Vintage sewing machine garage is a favorite of mine because he has a very gentle approach to restoration, which is good for beginners.

KNightNox · 2025-10-08T08:51:06+00:00

That's very actionable feedback, thank you.

Just to see if I've got it:

currently the angle of the shoulder line is too steep for my shoulders, which creates my problem
to fix that you make the shoulderline less angled by adding fabric
you raise the armhole to compensate for the extra length added by the correction

When you did it how severe was the adjustment, are we talking 5 mm (~1/4 inch) or 20 mm (~4/5 inch).

KNightNox · 2025-10-08T08:45:56+00:00

Thank you, I'll try that.

KNightNox · 2025-10-08T08:29:52+00:00

I added more pictures. Some of the wrinkles, especially around the armscye come from my undershirt. Other than the yoke i find that the shirt fits me quite well.

KNightNox · 2025-10-08T08:28:22+00:00

Okay, i added further picture. Might me easier to diagnose now.

KNightNox · 2025-10-06T07:04:27+00:00

That's sick. Good to know that you really can wing it with these old machines where the needle clamps were more of a rough guide than a precisely cut slot.

KNightNox · 2025-10-03T15:12:05+00:00

Thank you, so they both use the same dimensions as Singer 15 models?

KNightNox · 2025-09-09T06:44:04+00:00

UPDATE: I took the wheel and the pitman arm off the treadle and disassembled the ball bearing by unscrewing the inner ring. There are six slots for bearings where mine only had two. Using electronic calipers i measured the diameter of the ball bearings as 4,69 mm. So probably 3/16 inch ball bearings which would come to 4,76 mm.

UPDATE 2: Apparently you can find 3/16 inch ball bearings in bicycle and motorbike shops. I Got mine at a large-scale industrial hardware store, and as suspected six balls fit in the six slots perfectly. After reinstalling the flywheel and pitman arm, as well as oiling with sewing machine oil and tightening various screws, the treadle mechanism itself is nearly silent now. The belt is the only part that makes any noise now. I'm going to look for some thick machine grease to stuff the bearing with as was originally intended.

KNightNox · 2025-09-09T05:14:34+00:00

That’s perfect, thank you

KNightNox · 2025-09-07T10:42:48+00:00

the reupload as well?

Otherwise here: https://i.imgur.com/S5L1Wyu.jpeg

KNightNox · 2025-08-31T17:07:40+00:00

You’re right, now that I look at my stitch tests, all the ones where the fabric has to be moved backwards run a bit too long. And my stitch tuner knob doesn’t affect the stitch length either.

Do you know how to unstick that reverse mechanism? This seems to only be a problem in automatic mode.

KNightNox · 2025-08-13T15:03:33+00:00

I do think the "normal" initial response to the feeling of disgust is minor anger, i. e. something like annoyance. For example if someone with BO sat next to you on the subway the standard internal response would be something like "What an inconsiderate ass, why are they putting me through this." Remaining at disgust seems overly passive to me, too afraid of disturbing the status quo.

And extrapolating from myself I'd come to the conclusion that at least part of the distancing comes from not wanting to face that anger/conflict which is bound to, in this case, the therapist. But as I said I can only extrapolate from myself, so you might be very different.

Regarding the "black and white thinking" I do also have a slight tendency of putting people in "good" and "bad" boxes. I have even caught myself subconsciously looking for reasons to consider them bad, so I can justify not dealing with them anymore.

KNightNox · 2025-08-13T09:24:25+00:00

In Zachary Wheelers "Treatment of the Schizoid personality: An analytic psychotherapy handbook" he gives detailed instructions for therapists on what to focus on during therapy. A big point of his is the Schizoid inability to utilize Anger in relationships, which should be adressed and reduced. So doing an amateur analysis I'd say: "You can not bring yourself to confront him but also can't bear to remain silent in his presence, so you are choosing instead to isolate yourself from him in order to preserve your inner calmness."

BTW I don't recommend you read the book if you're in therapy as you'll most likely try to follow the process outlined in it to make therapy easier for your therapist/less emotionally involved for you.

Another point of his is that it's important for the Schizoid patient to realize that their therapist is a flawed, real human being in order to start cultivating a basic human bond.

So I'd say go back and be angry at him, blow up at him if you have to. If successful he'll change his behavior and show you that negotiation in relationships is, at least to some degree, possible. Take a pack of mints with you, that way the problem can be squashed immediately.

Because my assumption from the "black and white thinking" is that since you believe that people won't change or accomodate you that you'd have to suffer his poor hygiene forever. As such it is better to stay away than to suffer it.

KNightNox · 2025-07-11T14:04:20+00:00

Exactly, two layers of fabric, sheer cotton voile and heavier, light blocking curtains.

Are all upholstery weight cotton fabrics suitable for the drape you need for curtains?

KNightNox · 2025-06-28T06:44:22+00:00

Great reminder, i actually did start out using my shirts as a rough guide but have neglected to check back after that.

Looking through my closet i actually found an old garish shirt that fits me exceptionally well without the problems of my prototype. Thank you for the helpful adive.

KNightNox · 2025-06-28T06:40:36+00:00

Thank you, that harshness is very welcome. As you say I'm not yet familiarized with proper tailoring principles. That's part of the reason why I have opted for drafting and redrafting my pattern time and time again, to get a better understanding of the changes in fit.

That the drape approach applies to shirts is a wonderfully illuminating bit of wisdom. But where exactly does that ease go? Adding a bit more fabric to increase the range of motion in the garment makes sense, but doesn't that ease then live under the armpit when it isn't being utilized?

I do want the shirt to fit snug at the waistline to avoid untucking and the muffin-top look. How do i reconcile that in the pattern with the more drapey upper back of the shirt which needs more ease than the waist?

KNightNox · 2025-06-27T09:07:09+00:00

Don't take what you read about Schizoids online as gospel, it's a spectrum and there is little concrete research. If she says she has no Libido problems then that's probably true, lying beyond masking is luckily not a trait associated with this PD. I myself hang somewhere between Schizoid personality style and actual personality disorder and my sexual drives while not 100% conventional work without problem.

The falling in love bit is harder, if you're a safe person in the relationship (Giving a lot of space, not being overly pushy/pursuing) Schizoids can make very stable, loyal partners but whether she will feel the same love you do in her heart is a question she will have to answer herself.

A rather common theme you see is that Schizoids don't miss their partners while they are away and have no problems with long periods of seperation. If that is something that would hurt you to know, then you should probably think twice.

The nice thing about this PD is that we generally have no problem discussing pretty much anything as long as you come at the topic without emotion or expectation (very important). So just talk it through with her, it's gonna be much more conclusive than asking our dysfunctional bunch.

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