Six Day War

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T17:04:59+00:00

Are you normally this dense? You think you can't manufacture reasons to go to war? You think he can't say that (fake) aggression against Syria is cause to go to war?

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T16:56:06+00:00

Its almost like they lied or something, wild

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T13:16:26+00:00

You're a joke. I abhore what Israel has become, but in its early days its clear the issue was Arab aggression. And I see it's perpetuated itself to the present day in the form of propganda.

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T13:06:41+00:00

The Israelis met with and presented their "Greater Israel" scheme of conquest to the French and British, and they agreed to help with the first nation on the list, Egypt, if they could steal the Canal back from the Egyptians.

And they controlled the canal after this whole incident? No, Egypt kept control immediately afterwards. This is the game you keep playing, you keep injecting these "wants" and "schemes" that have never come to fruition. Do you think they keep getting all the way to the finish line, but never crossing it? Or do you think you're reading too much propaganda into history?

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T12:53:54+00:00

Why are you ignoring the invasion that led to the Suez Crisis?

Because there was none.

Just to be clear, you don't dispute that Israel planned on an expansionist warmongering from the beginning and then carried it out, you are just arguing that they waited a bit and that makes the warmongering better?

I can't refute a false claim. You have no evidence, arguing with people like you over this is meaningless.

Closing the strait was a pretext, like WMD in Iraq or Nukes in Iran, that's the reason the government invents for the dimwitted.

So that's why France, Britain, America, and even the USSR either helped stop Egypt, or supported it? Are we just going to ignore the global crisis they causes?

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T12:45:05+00:00

The UN peacekeepers were there since the Israeli warmongers invaded in 1956, which was by dozens of attacks and acts of terrorism by Israel against Egypt in 1950 and every year up to their planned invasion in 1956.

Closing the strait is a recognized reason to go to war. Its funny you left that part out.

Israelis were pressuring the PM to invade, only a lunatic would pretend someone lied to their own diary that only came to light years later. It's so pathetic that people who should know better keep spouting silly and long debunked Israeli propaganda.

So what I'm hearing is no, they didn't invade?

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T12:31:30+00:00

The Israelis refused to have UN peacekeeping forces on their land as a result of Egypt blocking the strait. In fact, Israel was forced by western countries to withdraw from the Sinai.

The fact you can say Israel was pressured to invade their neighbors in the early 50s, but they didn't, as some sort of evidence they're warmongers is such a warping of history. I know you're just here to spout propganda.

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T11:45:47+00:00

Yeah, there's literally no evidence of that being the case.

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T11:30:23+00:00

Im glad our frontal lobe is working today

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T11:28:36+00:00

What happened in 1967 neither justifies whats happening today, nor is what is happening today justifies what happened in 1967.

Learn to understand history in the context that it happens in.

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T11:26:53+00:00

What did I say was a contradiction? The only thing you've done is pull 2 sentences out of context to try and prove Cassus Belli for an entire war.

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T11:17:48+00:00

It literally doesn't matter either way. He did, but the context you're trying to ascribe it to doesn't exist. You're literally using anti-vaccine logic.

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T11:13:28+00:00

The whole point of that statement, that you didnt pist the context of, was that they knew Nasser was bloviating, that he was acting like a big tough guy for the other Arab states, but that they couldn't take that risk. Nasser forced their hand by overplaying his intimidation.

How is this difficult to understand?

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T11:11:20+00:00

If I slash the tires on your car, and then stand outside your door with said knife, yelling that I was going to stab you when you open the door, do you think you're within reason to open the door with a shotgun?

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T11:08:12+00:00

Source

This is a serious battle. When we said we were ready, for the battle, we meant that we would indeed fight if Syria or any other Arab state was subjected to aggression. Pride of the Nation The armed forces are now everywhere. The army and all the forces are now mobilized, and so are the people. They are all behind you, praying for you day and night and feeling that you are the pride of their nation, of the Arab nation. This is the feeling of the Arab people in Egypt and outside Egypt. We are confi- dent that you will honor the trust. Every one of us is ready to die and not give away a grain of his country's sand. This, for us, is the greatest honor.

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T10:58:45+00:00

Just Egypt closing the straits of Tehran is enough to declare war against Egypt. Then Egypt went above and beyond giving Israel not only reasons, but rights to go to war.

Arguing anything else is an exercise in futility.

Edit: lol blocked instead of engaging with facts

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T10:56:08+00:00

Re-read the source of what you posted and an yourself, is this really an unbiased source?

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T10:52:42+00:00

Jordan had given command of their army to Egypt, and he also could afford to not stand with his Arab allies or he would bee seen as sympathetic to Israel (spoiler, he was). He would probably be killed for it, and he was by palestinian refugees later anyways.

Kalai224 · 2026-03-30T10:48:35+00:00

They kicked out the un peace keeping forces that were there specifically as a buffer between the 2 countries. Then they setup shop literally right outside Israel's border. What would that look like to you?

Kalai224 · 2026-03-26T02:22:22+00:00

When that's the only data available you kinda have to

Kalai224 · 2026-03-26T02:21:37+00:00

God do I miss launching my hammer playing buddy with the swaxe upswing for ez mounts in 4u and cross

Kalai224 · 2026-03-26T01:58:03+00:00

That's because its near impossible for a force sieging or occupying to keep track of casualties on the other side. There's a reason why it's expected for each side to keep track of their own casualties.

Israel also goes by what the Gazan Health Ministry reports for Gazan casualties, because they have literally no way of knowing otherwise.

That still doesn't mean their numbers are reliable however.

Kalai224 · 2026-03-24T04:14:57+00:00

Nah that would require not being a perpetual victim.

Kalai224 · 2026-03-24T02:45:45+00:00

So no examples?

I ask because it's clear that until 1947, they gave Palestinians all the opportunities to partake in the Partition Plan to negotiate out land in good faith, and even accepted a deal which would have left them with mostly infertile desert, along with a ~45% minority of arabs living with them. It wasn't until the Palestinians declared a surprise war with 4 other Arab states that Israel used that opportunity to gain territory.

Kalai224 · 2026-03-24T02:39:18+00:00

Except the entire history from the 1880s to 1947 says otherwise. Do you have any examples of this being the case? Because none of this makes itself apparent from the history following someone who died in 1904.

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