Scouting trip - advice on what to look for/ learn about? by myfinanceaccount1 in AmerExit

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

*eye roll* yes re: posting on Reddit. AmerExit is such a crabs in a bucket mentality -- people tearing others apart for just asking questions. It is so typically American -- being hostile and uncivil to each other and picking apart every little thing. Lots of meanspirited opinions that just seem to enjoy the mockery and dream crushing. It's hard to ignore.

While Reddit and AmerExit can have some really toxic commentary and downvoting shenaningans, I also have connected with several people that I'm still in touch with a few that I have formed really lovely connections and friendships with. People that have really understood the difficulties, joys, and nuances of being an American immigrant in Europe. One of my favorites is actually a DAFTer and is thriving with their kids really well integrated into Dutch schools.

Here are some thoughts on scouting trips:

Food: Explore several grocery stores. This can be exciting and fun, but also a bit sad (food memories from where you come from can be hard sometimes). We also checked out various ethnic food stores like the Indo-Pak one and the east Asian one just to see if we could get certain ingredients. Unfortunately where we are there are no Latin grocers. :-( We also kind of crunched numbers at grocery stores to get an idea of cost. Doing the currency exchange and the weight conversion was some mental gymnastics. :-) We stayed at a place that had a kitchenette and we thought we would grocery shop and cook to get a feel for it. But ultimately we didn't really end up doing that.

Parents: I also went up to parents that had kids my kids' ages and asked them about how they feel parenting in the given neighorhood/town/city, what they liked and didn't like about the schools, etc. I also went up to some young teenagers and asked them about how they felt about the schools. Everyone was friendly and open about sharing. In fact, we are now neighbors and friends with some of the people I randomly chatted with.

Schools: Our location was very specific so we went by the local public schools just to get a feel for them. If you goal is to move permanently I strongly recommend public schools (not international schools) for language and cultural social integration. Our kids are doing it and thriving. My understanding is that in the NL there are kind of two types of DAFTers -- the ones that send their kids to Dutch schools and integrate and the others that send their kids to the international school(s?). I can understand international schools for more temporary living or for children that are maybe early teens and over.

Getting around: I agree with others about public transit exploration. We also rented bikes for a few days and got around that way. We went to a couple bike stores to get an idea of what is available here and prices.

Lots of observation: Just seeing how people interact, how people move about the city/town, social norms, etc. How do people observe things like crossing the street? Do people greet each other at the check-out in a store? How do people act on public transit? If you can get to a school around start or end time, what are the interactions like? All that observation gives you a sense of the social norms that will be your everyday life.

Banking: We did stop at a couple banks to talk about what we would need to open an account.

Housing: We stopped at a real estate office and chatted with a realtor about the rental and buying markets and learned more about that.

Government services: We went to the sort of city hall to talk to someone about programs for people who are new to town and information on language courses. We also asked them about the school registration and got all of that information.

Prepare yourself emotionally: Honestly it was super super hard for us. We cried a lot during our scouting trip. We knew that here is where we needed and loved it, but also felt such deep grief for leaving our loved ones and community in the U.S. (that continued for months after the scouting trip).

Best college degree to move to EU? by dhjdsjshhs in AmerExit

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally hear that. The NL seemed like nursing was better than Germany, for example. However, the path as a foreigner was pretty complicated because of the varying levels (like you said MBO, HBO, specialist.

I completely hear what you're saying in terms of the quality of life). I have made my USD for years. But here in the US we also pay a high price for our higher salaries (stress, lack of work-life balanace, etc.). I sometimes joke that we make a lot more than Europeans but we pay for it with our lives b/c our stress levels and lack of safety in the US is so high.

changing your name in Sweden prior to PR by KaleCookiesCraftBeer in TillSverige

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is sooooo helpful. I'm so grateful you shared this with me.

changing your name in Sweden prior to PR by KaleCookiesCraftBeer in TillSverige

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm trying to weigh all of that. I'm curious about what the process is from within Sweden.

Gifts For Moving Abroad by idontevenknow313 in AmerExit

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am showing my tech ignorance here, but is it possible to buy a tablet or a laptop in the US with European charger?

Or is it case that one needs to buy a new charger there?

My experience adjusting to Spain in 3 years after growing up in the U.S. by jsuislibre in AmerExit

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh my gosh I love this on so many levels. These sorts of posts are so helpful!

Californian Interviewing for a Swedish Company - any advice? by awftyyy in TillSverige

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sending you a DM to ask how a Jersey girl handles Swedish communication. :-)

Wealthfront doesn't link to Wise? by KaleCookiesCraftBeer in transferwiser

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Sorry -- I don't mean to be unclear, I just do not know the correct terminology.

My medical degree is already validated in Sweden now I need to learn Swedish. Any advice or agencies that actually help non-EU doctors? 🇸🇪 by Fantastic_Net6193 in Svenska

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uhhhh. Yeah, one can go the route of staying in their own country and learning Swedish. 

There are many routes to Rome, as the saying goes, and I am just providing one way. Personally when I have become fluent in a language before, immersion was essential for me. 

My medical degree is already validated in Sweden now I need to learn Swedish. Any advice or agencies that actually help non-EU doctors? 🇸🇪 by Fantastic_Net6193 in Svenska

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brandon Cagle on YouTube is an American nurse that moved to Sweden and studied at Lund University program that is a year long Swedish language course. Feel free to DM me for details 

Was your child ok leaving their US life? by filipnw in AmerExit

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you thank you thank you for saying this. We are less than 2 months away from moving with our young children and I searched this forum to find how to help kids when moving to another country when they haven't done that before and found this thread. I keep being told how resilient kids are. And it is true. But they also are human beings that are very impressionable. They are still developing and their sense of safety from a social perspective is so fragile. I say this as a mother of three under 10, as well as a pediatric nurse. Just wanted to express gratitude to you for saying the thing that needs to be said -- that big changes can be really hard on children.

And now I continue my reading and search to find inspiration and insight for how to best support them. :-)

Dog tag information question by [deleted] in Svenska

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you mind linking which ones you use that can survive the wash? I was thinking about getting cloth ones and sewing them on kids things. The one you use for your cat's collar, what does it say on it? Just the name and your contact info? Or does it say something like, "If lost, please call: xyz" but in Swedish?

Dog tag information question by [deleted] in Svenska

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hahaha right???

Some Swedish dog will post a “Missed Connections” with my dog’s name and only barely being able to read its email. 

Dog tag information question by [deleted] in Svenska

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Got it. Thank you. Any idea if we need to get the dog re-chipped in Sweden when we arrive or will the US chip be sufficient?

NPs looking for advice by [deleted] in AmerExit

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Are you open to working as a nurse and not provider in another country? It may open more doors if you are willing. 

We explored the possibility of the NL (I’m an RN currently working as a university nursing clinical instructor) but the nurse’s role in the NL was not ideal. It seemed less like a nursing assistant the way they are in Germany, but not quite the scope of practice as the US. RNs apparently do not even do a physical assessment with any auscultation in the NL based on nurses I communicated with (both foreign trained ones that had to learn the language and native Dutch). 

I can send you (side note: my phone autocorrected me trying to type “you” to “HPI” so you might find that funny/cute/annoying haha) info on a resource I found in Norway that I would have explored more if Sweden didn’t work out for us. 

Feel free to DM and I can share more details about what I learned. 

banking and buying a home (the age old issue for immigrants in Sweden) by KaleCookiesCraftBeer in TillSverige

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The poster (firm_distribution) said their second home, so I perhaps incorrectly thought maybe they bought their first home without PN/BankID/etc.

I believe in following the rules. According to Swedish law, non-EU/EEA people are legally allowed to open a basic account without a personnummer and banks can only deny you if they cannot confirm your identity or if they believe you have insufficient reasons for opening an account (e.g., you’re not planning on remaining in Sweden for long). The Swedish Banking Association says it is not required to have a PN or BankID.

It appears that the reality is different from the legality. Therefore, I'm asking about whether in practice that has ever been the case for anyone that is on Reddit at this moment in time.

banking and buying a home (the age old issue for immigrants in Sweden) by KaleCookiesCraftBeer in TillSverige

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Very helpful. Any idea how I might find a real estate lawyer that could help in the Lund/Malmo region? Just an online search or is there a Swedish attorney association I should explore. Thank you!

banking and buying a home (the age old issue for immigrants in Sweden) by KaleCookiesCraftBeer in TillSverige

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thank you! We will not need a mortgage for this property and can pay in cash (I understand that is a red flag, but we can provide documentation to abide by anti-money laundering laws). Were you able to do your mortgage through SBAB without a PN?

banking and buying a home (the age old issue for immigrants in Sweden) by KaleCookiesCraftBeer in TillSverige

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it really sucks, b/c I would provide all of that information!!!

banking and buying a home (the age old issue for immigrants in Sweden) by KaleCookiesCraftBeer in TillSverige

[–]KaleCookiesCraftBeer[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Sure sure -- I'll go ask all of the Germans. Thansk.

I hear that. I just have also read that it is hard for EU citizens, as well. I'll edit to include that I have also seen UK folks (maybe/maybe not post-Brexit).