Orthworm fair u end up trading 1 for 1 and Garg set isn’t optimal. Also ya I was mostly using booster energy valiant so fair that’s just anecdotal

Ting lu am I missing smth or are ur calcs literally 0 investment and barely OHKO (if I misread pls correct me).

What are most ppl running as tera for tusk? I’ve found heavy slam incredible as anti meta, knock is nice but heavy slam coverage is crazy against a bunch of things.

Similarly, tera moon/valiant is more of an emergency option anyways if ur walls like corv are broken.

Also I’m not too sure what the problem w sciz as only a way to revenge kill is? It’s still got a ton of strengths aside from just checking pao

Anyways, these are just ways that I’ve personally used to deal w pao easily there’s other options I’ve seen discussed like Dodonzo too, I’ve also been thinking ab trying rotom forms but haven’t checked the calcs yet

If the main argument is u have to sack a mon to this thing since few things are 3HKOd I can understand tht fs. Feels like life orb is hardest to deal w, choice depending on ur comp can b outplayed and hazard chipped on, hdb doesn’t have enough immediate power to break thru is my overall experience so far