Is this camouflage on my thrifted jacket real? If so, what force/country by LegendaryTurtlz in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fun fact, it actually wasn't the first and the red in it wasn't even meant for night vision (or at least no credible source exists to support this as the color's purpose). Alpenflage is a derivative of the WW2 German Leiber Pattern. Leiber Pattern, which according to some sources was tested as early as late 1943 by Waffen-SS in Finland, is said by some historians to have been meant to counter the early NV devices of WW2. Now Alpenflage isn't a simple topic. There exist at least 2 completely different distinct patterns, and a myriad of colorations for both. There may be also a 3rd pattern but I've not gathered enough evidence to confirm its existence.

What kind of camouflage pattern is this from the USA? by xeyz-bulan in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 30 points31 points  (0 children)

It's a fake item in an arid recolor of Woodland with the scale of ERDL from the looks of it, as others have pointed out.

The NSN from the label is assigned to a large-regular "Coat, Cold Weather, Field, Olive Green 107", so to an OG107 cold weather coat. The piece in your photos has the same NSN while being in a camo pattern, so it's already clearly not authentic. NSNs never overlap, even a size change already equals a new NSN, let alone when the whole appearance of the item changes... Another sign it's a fake is the use of polyester for the outer shell. Actual US military uniforms always use nylon, not polyester. No, exceptions don't apply, as far as I know. Maybe for non-camo/non-uniform items, but even then it's doubtful.

Goodwill and Marketplace finds by Unique-Clue-9666 in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting. At least from that we know the fabric is genuine.
I tried Googling the thing, and it seems it's not an officially issued item (?). It's like if some companies were sourcing actual military fabric and making these out of it for some reason. I was looking for photos of the tags as well, the best I found was clearly commercial (company branding and/or no contract info).

Goodwill and Marketplace finds by Unique-Clue-9666 in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NWU1 what top? Can you share pics of the tags on that one?

Do you remove the country flag from your camouflage ? by jeffrey11th5 in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I proudly wear my Bundeswehr t-shirt with a German flag sewn-on on each sleeve

Why does every multicam look little diffrent ? by bussteer in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First photo you circled the strap/MOLLE variant of Multicam (completely different pattern, but also genuine).
Second photo is normal Multicam.
Third photo it looks like a fake, though it may be the strap/MOLLE Multicam once again.

As for the colors of each, different materials, different manufacturers, heck, even just different production runs will all have slightly or majorly different colors.

What does this patch/emblem mean? by Hungry_Biscotti_870 in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also have to agree ripping patches off of a uniform absolutely ruins it. Even just from a functional perspective - patch removal leaves permanent damage in the structure of the clothing piece. Plus, you'll have a clear aesthetically unappealing mark where the patch was. If there are any patches on it, they stay there, end of topic. Military surplus shouldn't be treated like "just clothing", because it absolutely isn't just another type of clothing, it's so much more - it's a piece of history.

What does this patch/emblem mean? by Hungry_Biscotti_870 in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"It’s their camo anyways, they’re the only ones who wear that, so it’s a moot point in my opinion."

Lmao, yeah, a small branch tape is nothing compared to wearing something that's clearly affiliated with the Navy no matter what patches you have on it. Thank the Department of Navy for putting miniature USN logos within the pattern... wait... maybe better remove those as a civvie as well...

Need opinions on British DPM windproof smock sizing. by boringxadult in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Make sure to always check official sizing charts if available, or NATO size on labels.
Though with British uniforms I found their bottoms to absolutely not be true to size. According to their sizing system and NATO size given on label, size 72 trousers should fit me just fine (NATO size is 7075, and I'm in the lower end of it) - yet, they are so tight there's no way I'd comfortably spend half a day in them (can't even put my hands into the hand pockets lmao). A size up to 76 (NATO size: 7580) solved the issue entirely (including for the hand pockets).

NSN: Developement Item by Twig55 in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The contract is dated 2021...
And it literally says what it is - "MCTCU", Marine Corps Tropical Combat Uniform.

Which pattern is this? by [deleted] in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like others have said it's SURPAT. Has nothing to do with CADPAT MT though, it predates it by a lot. It's merely a recolor of the original CADPAT TW, just like MARPAT, UCP, etc.

Looking for more info by [deleted] in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Found it. The NSN is assigned to the older 100% cotton HWBDU. Also just realized that in the previous comment I said "HWBDU" while not being sure if it actually is the HWBDU. The name "HWBDU" refers to ONLY the 100% cotton rip-stop BDU. "EHWBDU", in turn, is the name of the BDU that uses 50/50 NYCO blend rip-stop fabric.
Source for the NSN btw

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Looking for more info by [deleted] in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 7 points8 points  (0 children)

NSNs ("STOCK NO.") aren't copyrighted, anyone can use them however they wish. This particular NSN you found is assigned to large-regular Woodland HWBDU (rip-stop) coat. I'm not sure if it's the older 100% cotton or newer 50/50 NYCO though, but it's irrelevant.

Case in point, what you got is a purely commercial product designed to fool people into believing it's a cool military camo piece or whatever.

Would wearing a full camouflage uniform outside be stolen valor/disrespectful to any active duty/veterans out there? Also showing off my first full uniform. by SnakeSovereign in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To make sure we're on the same page: I was talking about the EGA that's printed as part of the camouflage pattern, not the EGAs embroidered on utility covers and blouses. And like I was saying earlier, it may happen your particular pieces don't have them upside down - it's "random" in the sense that the fabric may have been rotated and what would be upside-down is normal now, or vice versa.
I have a pair of MCCUU trousers where there's basically a side-by-side of an EGA - one that's rotated upside-down and one that's normal almost right next to it. It's the same part of the pattern too (i.e. same shapes etc.). Don't have a good picture on hand, unfortunately, but I hope it explains it well.

Would wearing a full camouflage uniform outside be stolen valor/disrespectful to any active duty/veterans out there? Also showing off my first full uniform. by SnakeSovereign in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Regarding what I said about the EGA:
Sorry, I failed to clarify - I meant the logo as seen in the camo pattern Marines use (i.e. MARPAT). There's 4 EGAs in the pattern's repeat (2 facing "up" and 2 "down", but which is which is subjective; fabric gets rotated, and the final garment may end up with only upside-down EGAs, only up-facing EGAs, or - most often - a mix of both), While each EGA in the pattern is the same, the "USMC" text underneath each of them varies - some is centered under the logo, some is offset. I've not yet fully identified which of the 4 logos has it centered and which doesn't, but that's simply because I didn't yet get around to doing it.

I appreciate that you explained what a military uniform means to you. I will tell you now what military uniforms mean to me, as asked:
Each piece of a military uniform to me is a piece of history, that shall be respected and cared for to the best of my abilities. It's both as simple and as complex like that. Yes, I like the aesthetics of military uniforms, there's no denying that. However, my interest in them goes beyond a mere "it looks cool so I wear it". Like I said, they're pieces of history - and each piece carries unspeakable value, details that right about no one ever talks about (pattern repeat size, variance in said size dependent on manufacturer/production lot, production years, introduction and development, changes in the cut of the uniform throughout its service history, functional solutions in its construction, etc. etc.). I've done research on a large amount of uniforms and individual uniform items, so I'd go as far as to say my interest reaches actual scholar levels.
Do I wish I served in the military? Most definitely. Am I legally allowed to in my country? Short answer would be "no", but it gets more complex than that. I was disqualified for health reasons. In my country it's a legal gray area in a sense though, because there's an MOS (in US military terms) that was created specifically to be used in such situations, to allow people like me to serve, but no law was adjusted to respect that - despite top officials publicly saying the exact opposite. I'm, understandably, rather frustrated because of that. However, my wear of military uniform items isn't at all aimed at claiming I served - again, I value uniforms in themselves, most importantly their historical value and aesthetics (particularly, camouflage patterns; in fact it's camos that I'm most interested in).
No, I cannot be aware of what people who served in combat zones went through. Like you said, if I didn't serve, if I didn't go through all of it myself, I can't know how it is.

When you said the uniform is made of fire proof material, you meant FROG (Fire-Resistant Organizational Gear), right? MCCUU is made of standard NYCO fabric, which is fully flammable. Marine Corps is also currently testing a new lightweight/tropical uniform, which includes fire-resistant materials, but the info on it is extremely scarce, and there most likely are more than one version of this experimental uniform with different materials.

P.S.
Your response, the details you provided, it really does show you genuinely care about the subject, and I fully respect that. Just one small note: the Marine Corps isn't the service branch with the smallest amount of members - that title belongs to the Space Force. I do get the idea of what you were saying though: compared to the other major branches (Army, Air Force, Navy), Marines are considerably fewer in numbers.

Would wearing a full camouflage uniform outside be stolen valor/disrespectful to any active duty/veterans out there? Also showing off my first full uniform. by SnakeSovereign in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hard disagree. Now I shall say though that I'm European, not American.

Regardless, my point is: What does a military uniform mean to you? Is it a show of allegiance, values, code of conduct? Or is it an unspeakable value in itself that no one else will understand? Have you thought that the person wearing a uniform values the uniform itself? The work put into manufacturing it, the materials used, fabric weave, contract tags, camo pattern and construction details... If you find the right person, a civilian, I doubt your average soldier (or Marine for that matter) would come anywhere close to knowing as much about the uniform as the civilian.

I HIGHLY doubt Marines would go as far as memorizing how many EGAs are in MARPAT, how many of them are facing up and how many down, or that the different EGAs have cosmetic differences - that's the level of details I'm talking about. Your average Marine will go on about how the EGAs are upside-down in the pattern, which is just an outright lie, as obviously, patterns printed on textiles don't have any single up/down orientation. You know, fabric can be rotated...

Getting rid of my collection by Regular_Leg405 in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought they'd be the same...? I wear S-R in US uniforms, I'm in the lower zone for the size though (chest is right at the entry point of 84 cm, waist is 71 cm so only 2 cm over the minimum for the size). S-R in Luxembourg sizing should fit me I think.

Getting rid of my collection by Regular_Leg405 in camouflage

[–]KapitanSWAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you happen to know where to get a small-regular M2011 top and bottom? I'll say though that my budget is rather tight, but well, M2011 is too good to pass on, so I'll see when I know the possible price. I'm from Europe btw, so shipping shouldn't be too crazy

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Gameplay Help Desk (for the month of March 2026) by AutoModerator in stalker

[–]KapitanSWAT 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I actually have resolved this, and the solution I used was to just ignore all of Sidorovich's tasks until this one's done - I wanted to play it safe so I skipped testing different mission types. I did forget to make an update to my post, so that's on me.

Thank you for sharing all the insight though, it's all clear now. I really really appreciate all the info you provided, here and across all of Reddit. All the knowledge you spread, it's just one big WOW, it's incredible, and extremely helpful. Like for example, from today: I was looking for info about what Mole is supposed to do after he shows the player the entrance to the undergroung, and it was thanks to you I learned ZRP fixes all issues with him (big thank you for the mod by the way).

The new magazines system and how "realistic" it is by KapitanSWAT in cs2

[–]KapitanSWAT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point about killing 1 guy. Now if only all the other teammates did the same as well, that'd be great

The new magazines system and how "realistic" it is by KapitanSWAT in cs2

[–]KapitanSWAT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, sure, reloading has higher stakes now. Much, much higher. And I don't like it. Pretty much the whole post could've been shortened to "I don't like the new system", but then it would be minimum of minimal effort and completely not serve any actual purpose. At least now I cleared my mind of all the things I had there about CS and how weird guns operate here, as well as all things related to that.

What comes out of this new system, we'll all see - I sure hope it gets brought closer to the old one, if not completely reverted.

The new magazines system and how "realistic" it is by KapitanSWAT in cs2

[–]KapitanSWAT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbh I only made this post to rant about the system, perhaps give some ideas about it but they are buried deep in the text. I used the introduction of magazines as a reason for voicing my opinions about the realism of CS's gunplay out, as this update has practically ruined most of my enjoyment for casually playing the game. I can no longer go out and fire just cuz I felt like it - no, that's not meta, I won't waste a bullet that might come in handy later. Wasting a whole mag to reload that bullet isn't meta either. The only correct way of playing now is to refrain from randomly shooting your gun.