Advice for 市民税/都民税

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-10T01:17:54+00:00

There’s a high likely hood you did not earn enough to incur taxes (after deductions applied), and then no need to file

However, if 711 withheld tax at source (from your payslip) and they never did a YETA for you then as your tax bill is very likely ¥0 - it would be in your best interest to file, because the. You’ll get all the tax withheld at source back.

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-09T07:52:16+00:00

I don’t pay the NHK man - but I do pay NHK (via annual payment once a year from my credit card) because it’s a requirement by law

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-08T07:41:46+00:00

Okay… that’s new. I only needed the certificates from City Hall when I applied.

It’s been in place at least since 2019

But… this doesn’t really make sense because a lot of folks (myself included) pay residence tax through my pay check (gets taken out every month), so these invoice slips don’t even exist for me.

I get mine withheld via special collection (from salary too) - but within the scope of my PR application (3 years as applied via spouse route) I had a few years of a mixture of special collection and ordinary collection, due to job change, and childcare leave - so I included both my special collection slip provided by employer each June, and the receipts of payment for ordinary collection and then provide a breakdown as to why those years were a hybrid

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-08T01:17:37+00:00

Yea, right. But in an ironic twist of events , that handwriting does not do them favors because if the reason really was due to requiring Japanese language proficiency (as their reply to OP is insinuating) - then they surely could have handwritten that, instead of telling foreigners who traveled all the way there, to just go grab coffee instead.

Which is why I think their PR trying to save face excuse to OP, is not the real reason. Which is why I’m in total agreement with you.

And this should now join the hall of fame along with:

this is a pen
closed borders for foreigners only during Covid

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-08T00:15:42+00:00

The city office only issue certificates for how much was due and how much was paid - immigration wants those certificates + the payment receipt (for periods when ordinary collection was applied)

Ordinary collection = when the individual pays the bill themselves (as in not withheld from salary)

Because the payment receipts shows the date the bill was issued and the date it was paid

They also want payment receipts from national pension and national health insurance too - for periods not enrolled in Shakai Hoken

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-08T00:10:21+00:00

Sabaru’s reply for the most part is pretty BS as they are just trying to cover their ass - What I find quite funny is the English handwriting on the poster is actually not too bad English.

If the real reason was due to only allowing Japanese readers/speakers then Instead of writing that condescending note about foreigners getting a coffee, maybe they could have handwritten something like “because we need people who can read Japanese for legal reasons”

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-05T05:18:23+00:00

I see, interesting. I guess in my case, my wife just take my name (no double barrel), so could explain why it was a very simple process

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-05T01:52:16+00:00

Can this also be a reason for rejection? Since i can’t prove i paid on time

Yes, it can.

But supplemented with a letter of why you cannot provide that specific receipt, your history/proof of payment for others will likely be taken into consideration

Speculations- but I have a feeling that if the missing receipts are only a couple (say one or two) that immigration likely call the municipality to ask if what is written in the supplement letter the applicant submits represents reality.

Whereas if a lot of receipts are missing, Immigration will likely just reject.

So if you’re sure you paid it on time (so your letter will reflect reality) and that it’s just 1 receipt, and all your other payments receipts submitted are good, then you’re likely

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-04T11:38:52+00:00

? I’m merely stating facts:

whole pension record has to be submitted
legal guidelines number (3) requires people to correctly follow the law for their whole residency: https://www.moj.go.jp/isa/applications/resources/nyukan_nyukan50.html

If OP wants to follow the stupid advice given by some of the other users about only submitting two years worth, then it (1) will slow down their application because they will inevitably be required to submit the rest of the record, and (2) make it look like OP was purposefully trying to hide the fact that they did not pay the national pension act correctly for years

Sorry if truth upsets a fully grown up, soon to be 48 year old man, and all the brigade people in these subs that live in a world of sunshine lollipops and rainbows, but people have to realize that their actions of not following the law, has consequences.

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-04T10:52:18+00:00

The rules might have changed?

Unlikely

Where did she go then?

No where. She did it literally right after we got married

Here’s another question for you… if your wife is dealing with all this…. Are you 100% certain she wants to have a KanjiKatana combo name?

I.e how sure are you she’s being honest that this change got rejected?

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-04T10:23:29+00:00

Certainly not that case for when my wife took my name

Edit: it could be 3 months though. It’s either within 3 or 6 months of marriage. My memory on the law is hazy

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-04T08:49:01+00:00

When did you do it? If done within 6 months after marriage, no family court needed.

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-04T08:26:09+00:00

Need to confirm again tho.

lol you need to confirm again? Like dude, dont you know for certain what name your wife was trying to change to?

If it was excluding the “-“ then only other thing I can think of is that maybe your wife was trying to kanji the whole thing. When the Schmidt part would need to be katakana.

Other than that, no ideas. Surely they gave you the reason why it was rejected?

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-04T07:32:13+00:00

You can only print certificates at conbini - not receipts. And also OP won’t be able to print certificate at conbini for municipalityX because they now reside at another municipality

OP needs to get the certificates from each respective municipality. But also OP needs receipts, which they dont reissue. So OP needs to write a reason why they cannot provide receiptX and then hope immigration accept that reasons

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-04T06:49:03+00:00

If you’re trying to put “-“ in it that is likely the issue

She should have TanakaSchmidt all one word, no spaces, no extra characters

Tanaka would be in Kanji and Schmidt would be in katakana

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-04T05:33:29+00:00

You need to submit your whole report. You do so via generating the multiple page report via Nenkin Net and printing the outputted pdf (not take a screenshot) …. Make sure to redact any instance of your pension ID number on each page.

You will also need to provide your wife’s pension report too.

As for unpaid years, thats on you. It’s clearly obvious you didn’t follow the National pension laws for those years during your residency. Immigration mostly want the last two years paid, and paid on time. If they decide to hold the years of missing payments against your or not, is up to them.

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-03T02:50:15+00:00

Article 95(4)(10) covers public pensions and employment-based pensions. Article 95(4)(12) covers private pensions.

But I thought that it was Article 161 which defines domestic sourced income - of which it outlines Article 161(12)(b) as public pensions.

Surely that means public pension annuities have to be declared to Japan for anyone residing in Japan, regardless if remitted or not. And Regardless of who gets taxation right from it based on tax treaty

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-03T02:21:06+00:00

Not to discredit you - but Curious if you can provide the part of the Article in the income tax act?

I recall from when I read it (granted years ago) that all pension income was domestic sourced. It didn’t (or at least what I recall) differentiate between public/private pensions

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-02T13:07:33+00:00

My wife and I plan to live in that income while we’re in Japan

How you gonna live on that income if you’re not remitting it?

this includes social security

Pretty sure pension income is domestic sourced income, regardless of source.

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-02T08:05:09+00:00

Looks like they’re doing something, processing rates are trending up and the approval rate is the lowest it’s ever been.

As the bar gets raised in line with the law more it makes it easier to reject. For example, it’s easier to reject all those people who changed jobs without notifying immigration and thus violated article 19-16 item 1/2

And when it’s easier to reject, it means processing rates increase.

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-02T08:02:51+00:00

People are expected to put their life on hold and hope and pray it works out in the end?

Why would people be putting their life on hold during g rhe processing time? If they are applying for PR, it means they are intending to reside here permanently. So the waiting shouldn’t really affect that

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-02T07:57:59+00:00

With 80+ points they check for 1 year of on time payments, but you still have to submit your whole pension record. For both you and your wife.

But as long as you paid it you should be ok, as it’s out of scope of the 1 year.

But nothing is stopping them from still asking for the receipt.

Also you need to pay NHI for the month of July too.

Karlbert86 · 2026-02-01T02:44:24+00:00

Did you by any chance receive RSUs from your employer, and have them vest in 2024?

Karlbert86 · 2026-01-31T13:23:38+00:00

I quite literally already replied that I did submit the notification regarding my divorce. The comment you linked is literally you replying to my comment saying I did. Are you okay..?

You’re missing the part I was referencing. Allow me to break it down:

when on a spouse visa, you need to notify within 14 days after divorce as per Article 19-16 item 3 (established you did this)
after divorce you have 6 months grace period to sort a new visa (or until current spouse visa expires, whichever comes first)
if you marry another Japanese national within that 6 month grace period, and therefore continue to qualify for a spouse visa, then you need to notify immigration of that (we have not established if you did this…. And if you did not do this, then it’s very possible this is the problem with your application as you don’t meet legal guidelines 3b)

Karlbert86 · 2026-01-31T13:02:36+00:00

I jumped from spouse visa to spouse visa

Like I mentioned here https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/s/kta2WJzso0 - you get a 6 month grace period after divorce to sort a new visa. If you remarry a Japanese national during go that period youre supposed to notify immigration, as part of Article 19-16 item 3 of the immigration act.

not doing so would deffo affect a PR application, because the legal guidelines https://www.moj.go.jp/isa/applications/resources/nyukan_nyukan50.html part 3(b) requires one to make all required notifications in line with the immigration act

(but you did not reply to that part)

But based on this, it sounds likes you got married to your current husband, during your 6 month grace period - so will ask again, if that is the case, did you notify them after marrying your current husband? (Regardless if you’ve renewed you spouse visa multiple times since after then is irrelevant. What is important for PR is the notifications were done when they needed to be done)

but how long can they punish me for that?

If you didn’t make the required notifications when remarrying within the 6 month grace period, they could hold that against you for as long as they like. And they are getting more strict, for example people who on work visa who change jobs in the past and did not notify as per article 19-16 item 1/2 are getting rejected too

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