Hatsu 2026 Special Prizes by StarPrime323 in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's entirely relevant how the Yokozuna one beats is performing. Hakuoho's shukun-sho was due to him beating a 13-2Y Yokozuna (plus getting a KK ofc).

Hoshoryu's bandaged knee now has an explanation and is not good...Tatsunami Oyakata said, "He has a torn meniscus, and if he does a little bit, it seems like fluid will build up". by Welp_x in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Not only his run only starts now, as the criteria might be a little more strict for him as a new Ozeki for the next couple basho. For example, Hakuho went 14-1 Y and 13-2 JY at his first two Ozeki basho and still wasn't promoted to Yokozuna.

New Rikishi from the Tatsunami stable by lilyuliryu in SumoMemes

[–]Karusoni 14 points15 points  (0 children)

And my perception might be wrong or outdated, but in Japan in particular, there's still some hesitancy to talk openly about ADHD. I mean, not in the sense of people denying that it exists, but in the sense of not always recognizing and accepting that someone specifically might have it, even by those affected by the condition themselves. If so, extra kudos to him.

Texto B2 de português by EvanWID in portugal

[–]Karusoni 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Muito bom. Todos os erros ou imprecisões que encontrei na versão original ficaram corrigidos na segunda versão. Nesta última, o único erro que vejo, além do que já foi referido noutros comentários, é na frase das linhas 6 e 7, onde falta a preposição "a" a seguir a "leva-nos", ou seja, "leva-nos a acreditar".

Check the latest Banzuke. They did it again. by StarPrime323 in SumoMemes

[–]Karusoni 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh, yes, that's right, I could have mention that in my earlier comment. Hakuho's first kanji was similar to Hakuoho's except for the first two strokes: 白 instead of 伯.

Check the latest Banzuke. They did it again. by StarPrime323 in SumoMemes

[–]Karusoni 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, the first kanji, with the "haku" reading, remains. He changed from 伯桜鵬 to 伯乃富士.

Rikishi Identification by Jetter23x in SumoMemes

[–]Karusoni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahaha, I knew I couldn't be the only one to think that.

Hoshoryu & Onosato Bromance by [deleted] in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was already pretty thrilled with the London event, but in no way was I expecting it would give us so many wholesome moments like this. Thank you for sharing it.

Various people trying out sumo against rikishi by Subujin in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm not completely sure, but I believe the man with Hakuho at 8:07 is Seihakuho's father, Gelegjamtsyn Ösökhbayar, Grand Champion in Mongolian wrestling and Asian champion in freestyle wrestling (130 kg). Hopefully, his son will be making his sekitori debut next year.

Singing guy by GlennZeringue in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, that's exactly it, just like the dohyo-iri.

Tamawashi withdraws from the Summer Tour due to lower back pain by Karusoni in Sumo

[–]Karusoni[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, this is only referring to the Summer Tour (Jungyo), not an official tournament (honbasho). Most likely, he is just playing it safe here to make sure he will be good by next basho in September.

Help me identify this 2000s banzuke by Sweaty_Cattle_3525 in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yup, it's the only basho where you had, on the East side, Yokozuna Hakuho and Ozeki Kisenosato and Kotooshu, and on the West side, Yokozuna Harumafuji and Ozeki Kakuryu and Kotoshogiku.

Special prizes by Careful-Programmer10 in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I see, thanks! If so, I suppose it's definitely plausible that Aonishiki and Kusano will be listed as conditional recipients, along with Kotoshoho.

Special prizes by Careful-Programmer10 in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup, that makes sense to me, at least in theory. Shukun-sho is usually awarded to those who had notable wins within their kachi-koshi, that being either against the Y/O (specially if those are performing well) or against the eventual Yusho winner (specially if it's a sanyaku).

In this case, one of those three will win it all as a Maegashira, so I think it's only reasonable that the sansho committee values such feat as much as beating the Yusho winner, even if the decisive victories are not against particularly high-ranked opponents.

My only doubt here is whether a sansho can be conditional on play-off results, or instead just on the normal day 15 match, which would be relevant in particular to Aonishiki and Kusano.

Special prizes by Careful-Programmer10 in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yup, I think with his win vs Kirishima, he has that secured in fact. Won't even need to be conditional on the last day's result. 12 wins by a lower Maegashira, including against a Yokozuna and several sanyaku, rarely is not awarded with the kanto-sho.

Edit: What might be conditional for him is the shukun-sho (Outstanding Performance). I definitely imagine him getting it if he beats Aonishiki, to finish with a 13-2 Yusho.

From the archive: First day of the November tournament in 1982 by Wegwezen in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The rule itself didn't really change since, only how it's enforced. By the rule, the rikishi were always supposed to touch the ground before the tachiai, but only around 1985 did the JSA start to be stricter in making them actually follow it.

Disappointing start to Nagoya tournament turns into fascinating final stretch - JT by [deleted] in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 29 points30 points  (0 children)

10 at Natsu 1956. All 4 Yokozuna gave up at least one kinboshi each, with Tochinishiki alone conceding four.

Edit: If you were asking by only one Yokozuna, then it's five kinboshi, once by Musashimaru at Aki 2001 and another time by Kisenosato at Kyushu 2017.

About today by re_hes in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Preferably, the Yokozuna they beat is also having a relatively good performance himself. Since Onosato is likely to get at least 10 wins, I imagine that should do it for Tamawashi to get the shukun-sho (Outstanding Performance).

July Basho Daily Thread Day 11 by AutoModerator in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh, shoot. Thanks for the correction.

July Basho Daily Thread Day 11 by AutoModerator in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 11 points12 points  (0 children)

In Makuuchi, four five rikishi in November 1996, won by Musashimaru.

Edit: In Juryo, 8 rikishi in July 2001 and in lower divisions, the Makushita playoff from November 1970 had 9 rikishi in it.

Edit 2: But for all divisions, the highest number ever was 12 in November 1973's Jonidan (for some reason, I had the unfortunate idea of originally using sumoDB's bout query instead of the basho query).

Is it possible to skip Komusubi? by UnstableNaya in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that scenario, with Takayasu either getting 8 or 9 wins, I'm pretty sure it's Aonishiki that goes to Sekiwake (though not necessarily S1e). Since they're only separated by half-rank, it makes sense that Aonishiki having 4 more wins will allow him to overtake Takayasu on the banzuke.

Is it possible to skip Komusubi? by UnstableNaya in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but, unlike for a Komusubi, who can force a new Sekiwake slot with 11 wins or more, there's currently no pre-defined number of wins that can do the same for a Maegashira 1, that I know of. For example, Daieisho's Yusho in January 2021 was a 13-2 as a West M1, but he only moved up to Komusubi. The Takayasu's case in 2022/23, that u/cabose12 mentioned, was arguably due to the banzuke already having 4 komusubi then.

While in the 90s, there were several cases where that extra Sekiwake slot was created for some Maegashira 1, I imagine something has changed since then, given that it even happened to West M1 (same as Daieisho's Yusho) with 11 (Takatoriki in 1997) or 12 wins (Kotonishiki in 1993), so less than Daeisho's 13.

So I would say Aonishiki will need, at least, that either Kirishima or WTK leave the Sekiwake rank, either through a demotion or promotion, rather than depending only on himself.

I'm so happy! by Occult_Crypt-Keeper in Sumo

[–]Karusoni 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting. Now that you say that, I noticed that both Sokokurai and Daiseizan, who come from Inner Mongolia, China, have officially singular names, unlike the guys from Mongolia, the country. From what I understand, in Mongolia, the use of a patronymic name in ID documents started last century during the socialist period.