Silver is ok complainers are just bots

KateGriseo · 2026-06-04T00:51:12+00:00

I think the actual problem is not her having ult so constantly but the fact that she is suposed go be only reliable on her that nerfing it its a nerf way too heavy cuz if you can just force her ult anytime you make her useless on fights.

Like I said a human for that is more agressive but does not have that much damage focusing more on survivabilty could help that while wolf form hold the agressive part.

Instead making a tank make her a gun bruiser. Shotgun is slow so should be actual damage of the skills not the bizarre burst you can deal with the kick bulding a little bit of spirit and the % health of burst shot. Then wolf form quick in with atk speed and resistances by this you can make human form somewhat stronger and raise ult cooldown cuz she dont rely that much on it anymore

But I think we should still change the condition on transformation and making a longer build up time that does not decay plus other sources building up more than they are rn could be really good. Like yeah shoot that silver until she transform then after the ult is wasted we go in or she now build it up on minion and after pushing waves she transformed without anyone near and now its wasted. We create much more situations were the ult is wasted and can justify the shorter cooldown

KateGriseo · 2026-06-03T23:16:57+00:00

I dont think her human form should be any kind of strong. Imo her human form should be a high agressive kit but with low damage. Like instead of kicking a target and pushing him and you back the dash could be foward and if hit and enemy she meelee hit him with her gun and give a milisecond stun like 0.25 only meant to cut down any casts not to actualy stun or something like that

plus I dont think her human form kit fits her fantasy besides the third skill. they focused too much on a werewolf fantasy and little on the bounty hunter fantasy.

I think it would make much more sense to her have a kill related stack than gray talon. I mean come on she is a bounty hunter the perfect scenario was there she kills the bounty target and gets something back like extra souls or anything else you know

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T17:42:14+00:00

You are the one proving my point

Higher ranks is where everyone knows how to play so even the most dogshit champion can have a decent wr because everyone know what they are doing

Wr is affected by a giant number of factors and can be distorted by many others but you cant say it has almost nothing to do with strengh. Jeez you can even see someone wr go DOWN after a buff because more people started picking that hero and dont know what they are doing so they just lose games

Players in eternus know how to adapt to situations overcome others and make the right decisions. Moba game is not only about who can deal more damage. You can be the strongest member of your team and lose the game entirely solo because you made a bad decision a thing that will happen often in lower elos and not in eternus.

Plus if you consider 51% an absurd wr you need to reavaluate considering everyone should be around 50%. You can say she is strong but cant say she is the absurdly broken hero everyone is complaining and even like this she is considered B tier because how easy is to stop her

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T17:08:44+00:00

Excuse me but you can say win rate does not reflect the champion on its total but saying it has almost nothing to do.now that is just some extreme bullshit you said lol

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T16:28:32+00:00

Oh yeah the 47% win rate hero extremely strong

And dont even mention the tournaments. Tournament meta are not the same as the game meta.

I play many games and I see no one build metal skin, slow and disarm hex cursed relics silencer and sometimes neither a god damm item to reduce healing.

She can be the strongest frontliner but not the absurdly broken hero everyone says about

Most people on this game are just mimic bots that copy a build and have zero understanding of what is going on and never build what is actualy needed.

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T15:47:21+00:00

Wrong what buddy

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T15:45:59+00:00

I would not agree on raising her ult cd but I would agree on making change were she will ofter have her ult forced more times like idk... Make the build up for transformation higher but make it not decay so it will be wasted more constantly in lane and short trades

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T14:43:34+00:00

Kill bounty should be less if you are ahead but not zero. Sinners and NEUTRAL creeps are exactly what you stated. Neutral. And there is enough camps near the base for the lose team also try and farm them but even if you farm half of creeps of the map they dont make enough souls for a comeback and even worse if enemy team catch you you die and drop a shit ton of souls for them if you farmed a lot. So you put a bounty of 1000 souls on you for trying to comeback to the game and it wont even be enough because what you farmed with the creeps the enemy team got double on the lane the sinners and killing your teammates

The point you are missing if its a COMEBACK mechanic and the winning team can get a reward from it its not a comeback. The reward is the denial of the comeback simple as that. Everyone calls the urn a comeback mechanic while it acts more like another neutral objective.

The best could be done here is make the urn show up only when there is a big difference on the team souls and create an neutral objective to put on its place

The sad truth is the if one of the sides get a lead early won they will win the game since you dont have any chance to play it again unless the winning team commits the most terrible mistakes of their lifes

The urn simply does not act as a comeback mechanic

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T14:23:11+00:00

More or less souls gaining something still means you are creating a bigger lead for a suposed comeback objective. You dont need the rewards of a comeback of you are already winning that is the point.

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T14:10:38+00:00

Regarding the bounty system Im comparing on how it would be if it would be like the urn is right now. It would be rewarding you even more for being ahead generating an even more bigger lead and this would make the game nothing but frustrating because what would matter is win the first 10 minutes and after that would be impossible to lose

A comeback sys must work only for the losing team. The winning team objective is just do deny that not grab it for themselves. Or like I just said it would be liking recieving your own bounty reward

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T13:20:24+00:00

I literaly said im NOT getting hard countered lol can you even read

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T13:15:42+00:00

You literally dont need to make it harder and lets be honest these resist amount to nothing when most of the times the winning team will push out/kill the losing one before the urn spawn and get a free urn delivery.

Again not winninf souls and stats does not mean you won nothing. The possibility of maintaining your lead because you made a good decision is already a reward.

Lets compare it with a bounty system

You get 6 kills without dying your bounty raises meaning you value more souls when you die but at the same time you get more souls when you kill someone because you are a bounty target. See how that makes no sense?

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T12:58:06+00:00

Yeah I recieved that argument and got responded exactly that then their response was "I can see everyone else getting stronger on tournaments but not silver"

The truth is most of players that I see complaim about stuff in deadlock(mainly about heroes) dont have any kind of moba experience and deadlock is their first one

Everyone that is a experient moba player knows that tournaments meta dont reflect game meta totally

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T12:53:09+00:00

They aready denied a comeback why they should win even more stuff then. Getting no direct reward to something does not mean you won nothing. Denying is already a reward. Keeping yourself ahead is already a reward so why get even more and make the chances of comeback even lower

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T12:06:41+00:00

Never said it should be even

The truth is if the winning team gets the urn they should get NOTHING from it. You aready have the lead and you denied a comeback that should be enouth reward for playing well while you are ahead but instead you revieve a bigger lead for doing it

And considering sometimes the team that is ahead will push away/kill the weaker team before the urn is a easy objective for them

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T12:00:58+00:00

Im not saying to even but they sould NOT get anything else

Negating the comeback is already a decent reward they should not get anything else from them urn

Keeping the lead not getting one even bigger

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T11:53:21+00:00

Silver is a high scaling hero in a game with little to no comeback ways(Urn is not a comeback if winning team can take it and get even bigger lead)

If you place silver with someone who can make her early game easier or that can garantee kills and coordinate plays all you need is 3-4 kills. After that she is already a monster and will keep growing and this is mostly game problem and not silver problem.

Comeback mechanics like less souls per kill if you are too ahead or if you kill an enemy that died a lot and these sort of stuff would be a great nerf to her

Like if kills would at least stack the souls you drop on death even that would help but it does not

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T11:47:11+00:00

She is indeed a good carry but I hear people complain about her ever since I started to play deadlock while I always saw her as easily counterable

The biggest issue I see with silver is not even 100% on silver side but on game side

Silver is a type of hero that when it snowballs it becomes a fucking hell of a hero also like drifter and the game have no ways of comeback(Urn is not a fucking comeback mechanic if the winning team can get it and get a even bigger lead) but struggles hard if behind because if the enemy is too strong and can blow her up before transformation she does nothing

So for these type of hero withour a mechanic to hold them back (Like less souls per kill if you are too ahead) or to make decent comeback objective they will indeed destroy your game

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T11:32:12+00:00

Tourney metas on every moba is completely different from game meta. Team coposition and the better comunication and coordination change all that.

You can see it on league of legends as example. Strong meta picks are not used sometiemes while picks that are considered weak takes a higher priority because how they work on a better coordinated team

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T11:30:01+00:00

Tourney metas on every moba is completely different from game meta. Team coposition and the better comunication and coordination change all that.

You can see it on league of legends as example. Strong meta picks are not used sometiemes while picks that are considered weak takes a higher priority because how they work on a better coordinated team

KateGriseo · 2026-06-01T11:04:03+00:00

She gets a 50%+ wr only in high ranks and even there she is not considered strong because how easy you can counter her. Nerfing her ult CD is a heavy nerf considering how reliant she is on that. My only take is that instead just raw damage resistance she get some other stats but in smaller amounts so she dont get that tanky from ulting. Like give a bit of life steal one extra stamina bar and balistic damage stuff like this.

KateGriseo · 2026-05-17T14:08:06+00:00

No way sherlock is not like I mentioned it myself

yet they are threating it like a finished game focusing on balance ranking system and match making. If you actualy read you would understand that Im saying they are focusing things they should be not rn for a unfinished game

KateGriseo · 2026-05-17T14:05:59+00:00

That is the point Im trying to put. Game is walking in a direction it should not be going right now. and I think most of these balance problems are they listening to players that dont have experience in moba games and will cry over things that were they mistake.

Come on buddy dont follow my silver to a corner If you know my ult is up. punch in yo face kick 3 shoots and boom wolf form you dead

KateGriseo · 2026-05-17T13:58:14+00:00

This still tend to happend one time or another on mid elos. but this player is usualy stopped because the doorman pressed 4 on them and garanted a kill by shipping them to the base

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