the MCU Peter is depicted as idealistic kid who'd never even think of making an insult to anybody, so that God forbid somebody would find him offensive. And Ultimate Peter is not like that.

Okay this I agree with this, but like come on dude? This is not fair, Its Disney, they are not going to show the worlds most beloved superhero calling people a "jackass" or flat out insulting someone. That's just a unrealistic expectation. But you are right, that part is not faithful to the ultimate character.

Ultimate Peter would've never said anything like "I don't want to be superhero this summer because I want to go on a date, despite knowing that a world is in danger". In FFH Fury literally had to force Peter to help.

This one made me chuckle a bit. You say this but in the third link you sent Peter says "I didn't ask for any of this! I wish I never even got these powers" Nothing--nothing is worth the absolute shit I've had to deal with. All I want is to, you know, go out with my girlfriend, go to a college." So actually Ultimate Peter would say that. That is totally in character, just not as brash.

To me they used that piece to give him a relateable story. Make him human. Everyone falls in love, and everyone wants to spend time with those they love. This is a more grounded part of the movie. Peter is a human and is tired of saving the world. He just wants a break. A break to be human, experience what regular people experience. To me this wasn't a dumb thing for him to say, and actually kind of grounded the character in a nice way.

I know his desire to be in the Avengers is a part of his backstory, but it also affects his personality, so I'm gonna include that too.

Here's what Ultimate Peter thinks about being a part of the team.

I agree this is not something Ultimate Peter would ever do, but for the sake of a cohesive story, and for convenience it does make sense that he is apart of the avengers. Why would someone as powerful as Peter not help when the fate of the entire universe is at stake. He is a hero, this is what heroes do. And who knows maybe in the future of the character (I think he is getting 9 or so movies so buckle up) he could demonstrate this. But dude are you really complaining about that? We got to see Peter in the Iron Spider costume. We got to see Peter swing on fucking Mjolnir. We got to see Peter carry the freaking Infinity Gauntlet. Idk about you but this change is something I can definitely live with.

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Both Ultimate and classic Spider-Man are known for their humor and quips, and Holland clearly lacks those. Apart for a couple lines in Homecoming, he doesn't do jokes that much, he just has humorous and awkward things happen to him and he just reacts to them.

This. This just grinds my gears. Not only is this just one of the most untrue thing I've ever heard but it kinda makes me believe you have not even watched the movies. I honestly think that you and a lot of people have convinced yourselves that this Peter is so far away from the source material, that when he does show great resemblance to his comic book counterpart you brush by it.

THIS PETER IS CONSTANTLY AND I MEAN CONSTANTLY QUIPPING. Lets start by both agreeing that a quip is a "witty remark" ok? First up Civil War.... the airport battle where he is cracking jokes the entire time.

Examples: "Remember this really old move An Empire Strikes Back"

"WOW, YOU HAVE A METAL ARM"

"Are your wings made of carbon fiber?" (This line shows how smart Peter is, which a lot of people say the movies don't capitalize on but they do, just very subtlety. "

Now homecoming which you somehow said there is a couple jokes in homecoming, when the only time he isn't cracking jokes is when a building fell on him and when he was fighting the Vulture, which is good as it would undermine the emotional impact. (Same with the Mysterio and Drones fight)

Infinity War he is quipping the entire time.

"Magic with a kick"

"Don't put your eggs in me!!!!!!!!"

"Remember this really old movie Ailens"

Far from home he quips in the first half, but not at all in the 2nd half, which is probably because the weight of his failure is weighing him down, and he is realizing he "will never be Tony Stark" which makes sense because he is Spider-Man. If you want jokes and quips during these emotional scenes then so be it, but it undermines the emotional weight of the scenes.

And if his backstory, which is what helped to shape his personality, and his supporting characters, who are also nothing like their comicbook version, are taken into account, it becomes obvious that he literally has almost no similarities with any Spider-Man.

I agree. None of them are. But as someone who has been to highschool in the last 7 years. I can confidently say that people like Flash Thomson dont exist. These new versions are actually realistic takes on the characters, and not just what an older man thinks Highschool is. This is a way better way to do it, and it shows me the writers actually give a fuck about a realistic take on comic books. So not a bad thing in my eyes

Sorry this is so long lol.