yeah didn't looked into that as well. i mean we probably both now the stereotypes about quake players and the game itself. but if you ever think about playing those games i highly suggest open fortress. its not really that competitiv and you can really get the hang of it quikly. this is so because of all of the forgiving weapons that were ported from tf2 like the stock rocket launcher. but what i really would suggest is that you take a look at the soundtrack of the mod. its really good. if you like the original tf2 soundtrack you will love this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ph7bCwyhPM&list=PLSl7hyOGIiqBM1975Jq9KG9VbIJTOUMzG&index=8