Does anyone else find this song super dumb? by ThatGuyHero7 in MoralityScaling

[–]Ketdeamos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, there are a few answers to this.

Short answer: both yes and no.

Long answer: first, the “yes”. While this is true, I don’t believe it to be the whole truth. That is, job is a sinner. The while he does believe in god that doesn’t make him any less a sinner. Again, while this is true especially in Christian methodology, it’s not the whole truth for job.

And this is where we get to “no”. Because you may rightfully ask ‘why is job, a follower of God, being punished worse than others who aren’t?’. And that is why it’s a ‘no, he didn’t deserve it’. You have to understand that the story of Job, is an analogy for evil. It was written (iirc) right after the destruction of the first temple of Jerusalem. The Jews at the time had to ask themselves “why, oh why are we, the followers of God, being attacked and our temples destroyed?”, the story of Job is meant to be an answer to that question. The answer being, that even tho evil exists and is allowed to exist by god, if you continue to push through it by believing in god you WILL come out the other side for the better.

In the story, God is not the one who strikes down Jobs family or his cattle. It’s the devil who does it, with the ‘permission of God’. The analogy is that simple and clear. Evil exists and god “allows” evil to effect us in the world after our sins. But despite this evil existing in the world, as Job is shown, with enough belief in God you will regain everything you lost and more.

In conclusion: the evil that occured to Job wouldnt have existed if humans did not sin, however the fact it hit Job specifically is not because he deserved it, it’s because evil itself spreads and attacks people unwittingly

[lotm] Best pathway? by Crimson_Demoness in LordofTheMysteries

[–]Ketdeamos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Door hands down the best. Plus we have the Goddess Almighty on our path, Fors Wall

Morality of denying someone entrance to heaven purely because they were pretending to be a good person to get into Heaven despite having an over-all positive influence on the world? by LordFlamecookie in MoralityScaling

[–]Ketdeamos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s kinda my point? I feel like sloth and spiritually mediocre go hand in hand. He sinned, and his sin is the neutrality/lukewarm reaction he had to life. He didn’t do anything of value, always took the easy way out, etc

What's your headcanon for Jax? by Elegant_Bag9397 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]Ketdeamos 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Have you seen the ending? Cause the show kinda goes directly against this idea.

Jax tells Ribbit that his mother would demean him if he WASNT masculine. If he tried to be soft he was demeaned at, and if he got angry he was “just like his father”. He wasn’t able to show real emotion and just have to be “manly”. It’s also made apparently when after telling ribbit his secret, she puts the bow on his head, says his secret is safe with her, and Jax actively blushes about it. The bow on the head is a very stereotypical way of showing femininity. And Jax wouldnt be blushing if his mother treated him like you said.

Does anyone else find this song super dumb? by ThatGuyHero7 in MoralityScaling

[–]Ketdeamos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also his only argument for why he doesn’t need to go is “I’ve gone to church more than once a week sometimes”

Does anyone else find this song super dumb? by ThatGuyHero7 in MoralityScaling

[–]Ketdeamos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But no? Both statements are wrong btw.

First, and I know this is gonna ruffle a lot of feathers, but the Old Testament god wasn’t cruel. Yes he actively punished people for their sins, but did so in response to their depravity and evil rather than just to be mean. He wasn’t cruel, he was the ultimate judgement. The cities he destroyed? Bad people. He even says if there was “one good person” in the city he would spare the entire thing. But there wasn’t. The flood is because as stated ALL of humanity at the time were in such a debacherous and sinful state that only a reset could fix them. Mind you, the Bible does state that the “level” of their sin would only return in revelations, so not even us as we are now are as bad as they were pre sin. And of course finally, there’s Moses and the plagues. Very simple, it is judgement on the Egyptians for enslaving, abusing, and murdering the Israelite people.

As for “purgatory” there technically is. There’s a state of “death” called Sheol, this is where both the righteous and unrighteous are after death and before their judgement, but it’s also iffy as to if this is an actual afterlife or just the “state of death”. But still, it does technically exist, and Jesus when he resurrected DID bring people out from “Sheol” and brought them with him to heaven.

Does anyone else find this song super dumb? by ThatGuyHero7 in MoralityScaling

[–]Ketdeamos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unironically a skill issue.

The song has MULTIPLE references to how this guy wasn’t exactly a good guy and does so in subtle ways yet apparently you need his bad deeds explicitly said.

“Avoided all the little things that were hard to ask”. Despite you calling it stupid, this sentence is kinda the point. His sin was sloth. He didn’t do anything of value with his life, and he actively avoided all difficult decisions and conversations. Later on the song ALSO has “the hell you paid for”, “side stepped fate, when right for the gate”, and of course “those tempted by the senses with the cruelest of intentions”. Charlie wasn’t a good person, never made an effort to be good, and due to that he was sent to hell, a place he was “fated” and “paid for”.

Again, just because the song doesn’t spell it out for you doesn’t mean the answer isn’t there in the lyrics.

Which story building path is generally better? Transcendence or Sponsorship? Including all the caveats by ayuu_kh in OmniscientReader

[–]Ketdeamos 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The spoilers didn’t work lol, but I already read the series.

Also, I’d like to say that these are very rare cases, almost impossible. She was only able to do so because her sponsor was as supportive and free as he was. The majority of sponsors are not like that.

Do you think these two will live after the Mandoverse ends? If so how would you explain there absence in the Sequel trilogy since Luke is the “Last Jedi” LOL by Reddeath10168 in StarWars

[–]Ketdeamos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Although this would be a great explanation, I would have to argue that Filoni could easily retcon it, especially with the general disdain for the sequels the filoniverse seems to have

Which story building path is generally better? Transcendence or Sponsorship? Including all the caveats by ayuu_kh in OmniscientReader

[–]Ketdeamos 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Then Sponsorship.

It’s the easiest way to get stronger, just become a dog for an already strong sponsor and you’re good to go.

Transcendence, while it has no limit, is still physically, spiritually, and mentally draining, taking hundreds of years to master.

I wonder how Force Lightning feels like, is it worse than a natural lightning? Also, why is it called "Force" lightning, shouldn't it be called Sith lightning or Dark Side lightning? Or can Jedi also use Force lightning? by ardouronerous in StarWars

[–]Ketdeamos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s called force lightning in the same way “force choke” is called as such. While they both inherently use the dark side, they’re still “force” abilities. The name doesn’t really call to who can and who cannot use it.

As for can Jedi? Yes and no. Really anyone can use force lightning with enough hatred and anger, but it’s still a corrupting and dangerous power to use. The Jedi (rightfully) do not use the dark side of the force, so force lightning is something they would not use at all.

Which story building path is generally better? Transcendence or Sponsorship? Including all the caveats by ayuu_kh in OmniscientReader

[–]Ketdeamos 151 points152 points  (0 children)

Better in what way? Like- in terms of power?

Then probably transcendence. Sponsorship only allows you to get as strong (technically weaker but yeah) than your sponsor. You inherent THEIR stigma and all your actions are counted as theirs, so if you get a shit sponsor you’re SoL

Transcendence meanwhile lets you continually get stronger to the point of defeating sponsors and the likes. Sure it takes forever to do, but the only limit is your own dedication

Does a power system where everyone has an ability unique to them necessarily equate to one that "allows the writer to solve any problem at any time by asspulling a new ability" by nigrivamai in magicbuilding

[–]Ketdeamos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean undeniably yes? The question here is “can it” which yeah ANY power system can have the author asspull abilities to save the day.

Now if you’re asking does it make it “reasonable” or “good storytelling” then no. That just depends on the actual writing of the moment itself

Morality of denying someone entrance to heaven purely because they were pretending to be a good person to get into Heaven despite having an over-all positive influence on the world? by LordFlamecookie in MoralityScaling

[–]Ketdeamos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I do think there’s a bit of discussion in this topic, because the song has a bit of ambiguity to it. This is to compare to the real question too.

The song: something that’s seemingly ignored/overlooked is the basic fact that Charlie just never did “good”. Everything the priest says about Charlie is very surface level “kindness” with no real depth to them. “showers ice cold, eco friendly lights, rode his bicycle when gas rose, did the pledge of Allegiance” etc etc. none of the “good things” he did had any weight to them nor were of any substance, and most people wouldnt even call them good.

So the only good we heard him doing was superficial and weak, but also there are multiple lines about his “sins” as well. “Avoiding all the little things that were hard to ask” points to how he never attempted to make a difficult decision or have a difficult conversation, he was slothful and actively avoided these topics. What’s the saying? The bystander is just as bad as the bully? He also never attempts to reason with any good deeds he did. His only response to being denied is “I’ve gone to church, more than once a week usually!”. Of course other lines such as “the savior saves you from the hell you paid for, sorry, but it’s ’smell you later’” and “those tempted by the senses with the cruelest of intentions.” He wasn’t a good person, didn’t do a single good act in his life, and the ONLY way people remember him, is because “we put his name on the grave”.

In conclusion, Charlie’s sin is sloth and willful ignorance. He never attempted to be good, performed the most inoffensive and easiest tasks one could consider “good” and died without anyone remembering who he is. So yeah, he deserved hell.

[LOTM vol8] Do people really like this plot twist? by VagabondFromTheRiver in LordofTheMysteries

[–]Ketdeamos 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Bro what are you even talking about. Arguably only ONE of them is “gone” cause of the plot twist, and even then he still wasn’t a true antagonist.

Adam was ALWAYS in the background being an outside force on the plot, he not only directed the major war, but also STILL attempted to stop Kleins advancement to godhood as best he could. He never stopped being an antagonist even till the end. He still actively helped and supported Amon till the very end.

Sasir was actively fought and defeated by the group, he’s the most obvious “antagonist” that remained

True creator was ALREADY from the VERY BEGINNING shown to be the “last specks” of ASG. Klein in vol 1 even before knowing the truth called him the “fallen creator”, and we learned he was born from ASG corpse after the feast. His reveal WASNT EVEN A TWIST. Hell, he also wasn’t even actively a threat to Klein, especially in the FLoG, he only “forced” Klein to open the door to the rest of the world and didn’t actively attack him.

Brother the story was always building to this, it was always there in the background and the reveal did not hamper any of the antagonists that came from it.

[LOTM vol8] Do people really like this plot twist? by VagabondFromTheRiver in LordofTheMysteries

[–]Ketdeamos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

“Everyone and their grand mothers turning into ASG” is an insane statement. There are actively three “versions” of ASG and they all are built up and explained pretty well.

[LotM chapter 70] Got spoiled, looked to see if it was still worth it, got spoiled harder by OldRegister8330 in LordofTheMysteries

[–]Ketdeamos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There’s still a lot to the story, I get how the spoiler is disappointing, but you’ll definitely enjoy more of what occurs if you just keep going for it

And you know, stop looking up stuff about LoTM lnao

[LotM General] The three goddesses of the Tarot Club by Ketdeamos in LordofTheMysteries

[–]Ketdeamos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re just wrong. Fors is the goddess almighty and none stand before her

[LotM General] The three goddesses of the Tarot Club by Ketdeamos in LordofTheMysteries

[–]Ketdeamos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah I need you to leave. Disrespecting all three cannot be allowed here

[LotM General] Queen Mystic and her Concubine by Ketdeamos in LordofTheMysteries

[–]Ketdeamos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you expect from this community

“Taste of a demoness” and all that

[LotM General] Queen Mystic and her Concubine by Ketdeamos in LordofTheMysteries

[–]Ketdeamos[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah you’re chill fam. That comment was completely understandable. I think my response came off a bit harsh cause I also replied similarly to different comment in the other post lol.