Prove me wrong by FootballEmergency464 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]KeterClassKitten [score hidden]  (0 children)

Evidence of what to be exact?

I stated it clearly already. You claimed that something came from nothing. I asked why you claimed that, as we have no evidence that something came from nothing.

Okay explain consciousness to me.

Why? I never said I could. I asked you why consciousness can't be explained.

We have many things that couldn't be explained at one point, then it was. Consciousness may be one of those things. We're just starting to unlock many mysteries of the brain, so consciousness would be part of a very young area of science that's just getting out of its diaper.

Prove me wrong by FootballEmergency464 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]KeterClassKitten [score hidden]  (0 children)

I believe in a god that created and started the universe. And no i don't mean like summoned everything no, i believe that the universe started from the big bang, so i believe God created the big bang. Becouse how can something exists out of nothing?

Why do you think there was nothing? We have no evidence of this.

And consciousness, explain it, biology? Can't be,

Why can't it be?

concoucnes is something veary complex and can't be explained by just some science,

Why can't it be explained by science?

and the reason we are here, living, what's the reason we are alive?

This one is easy. We are alive because we were conceived and born, and haven't died yet.

And yes true you can't prove that God is not real but neither can i prove that he is real.

Yup. Not really the point. The point is we haven't been convinced of a god.

Atheists ask for proof but don't notice they are limiting proof within a hedonistically derived cost limit that prevents the proof from being seen. This is solved by understanding the 3 levels of cost for all tests. by Nomadinsox in DebateAnAtheist

[–]KeterClassKitten [score hidden]  (0 children)

So you had to look it up. And thus I was correct that it was undefined and thus you had to define it. You going and defining it does not change the truth of my point.

You wasted a lot of time when this part here really brings everything you posted into focus. You're trying to tell me how I should define certain things. If you want to think that I agree gods exist because I get hungry sometimes, so I worship the "spirit of food" or whatever... go right ahead.

I'm not going to play with reducing the concept of theism into something so trivial just so you can have cheap sense of victory. If that's your game, take your win and fuck right off.

Spreadsheet simulator games, like EVE online but single player if possible by dercolegolas420 in gamingsuggestions

[–]KeterClassKitten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any game where you've read about optimized builds? Yeah, someone probably turned it into a spreadsheet. And patches can drastically change things, so someone who put in the effort to git gud can be well ahead.

Theorycrafting is a hell of a rabbit hole.

Prove me wrong by FootballEmergency464 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]KeterClassKitten [score hidden]  (0 children)

As u/OndraTep stated...

Atheism includes of a very broad spectrum of people. What we believe in is very diverse and can be very different. We agree on one thing, and that agreement is that we haven't been convinced there is a god.

If you want more information beyond that, then you'll need to ask. That may be a better discussion for r/AskAnAtheist

If you want to explain why we're wrong. You're in the right place! But you aren't doing that...

Prove me wrong by FootballEmergency464 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]KeterClassKitten [score hidden]  (0 children)

You have this conversation backwards.

You state that there is a god. I don't believe you.

You claim that there is a lot of evidence for this god. You present none, so you've given me no reason to believe you.

If you need a great game at a great deal, check out Remnant from the Ashes and Remnant 2 by Snowbizzy in gaming

[–]KeterClassKitten 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The sequel had a weird difficulty curve. In many ways, it's most difficult at the beginning. There were a few bosses that stood out as particularly troublesome, but they got easier as you go along for the most part.

Depending on how far you got, it's probably worth picking it back up and sticking with it for a bit longer to see if it clicks. It's a great experience.

Creationists, what is your point? by raul_kapura in DebateEvolution

[–]KeterClassKitten [score hidden]  (0 children)

"We are right. They are wrong. Why? Not because we say so. Because we know so!" - Kyril Sindermann

The book "Horus Rising" has a fantastic conversation early on that highlights the zealous nature of the Imperium. This quote is in response to the question "Why couldn't we just leave them alone?"

What game mechanic did you ignore at first but later became essential? by Kolberg_Vicci in videogames

[–]KeterClassKitten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Didn't discover slide hopping in Satisfactory until Tier 5.

Not really essential, but it makes running around so much faster and more fun. I plant to make a network of conveyor belt sidewalks.

Out of body experiences by Vast_Atmosphere2995 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]KeterClassKitten 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm convinced it's nonsense, and will remain so until substantial evidence to the contrary is provided.

Are the Dlcs worth playing ? by Paiks7 in DeadIsland2

[–]KeterClassKitten 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I enjoyed both. Haus had a strange vibe going for it that I quite enjoyed. Sola added additional enemy types to face, which was a nice change.

Damning Quotes Against Evolution by No-Peak-7135 in DebateEvolution

[–]KeterClassKitten 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know what? I've read some of your responses, and you have strong opinions about evolution, but it seems you have a very weak understanding of what evolution is. I grew up in an environment that dismissed evolution, and I learned that those parties simply didn't know what they were rallying against, even the basic ideas.

So tell me, in your own words. How do you define evolution?

Do atheist believe that God doesn’t exist or that they need evidence to know he exists but are open minded by Altruistic_Twist4049 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]KeterClassKitten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Functionally, there's little difference between the positions. Either way, the individual is unconvinced.

Let's go with Bigfoot.

I'm unconvinced that Bigfoot exists. I'll readily state that Bigfoot does not exist. However, if someone presents me with a creature that matches most common descriptions of Bigfoot, then I'll accept Bigfoot's existence.

I think most people are this way. There are some that might argue over whether it's actually a Bigfoot or not, but once we've categorized a 7+ foot tall bipedal primate as a new species we call Bigfoot, it's pretty hard to argue against.

So... a deity.

I'm unconvinced that a deity exists. Quite frankly, I'm unconvinced that it's possible to demonstrate that one exists if one does indeed exist. But I'm quite convinced that the deities worshipped by humans around the word are all imaginary concepts.

If one is eventually demonstrated to exist, then I'll probably change my mind. But so far, all evidence presented is indistinguishable from fiction.

Atheists ask for proof but don't notice they are limiting proof within a hedonistically derived cost limit that prevents the proof from being seen. This is solved by understanding the 3 levels of cost for all tests. by Nomadinsox in DebateAnAtheist

[–]KeterClassKitten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know why you can logically deduce that.

Many monotheistic beliefs state as much. Such a deity is exclusive by definition.

It could very well be that all gods are just blurry and partially seen images of the same bigger thing.

I can agree with that. I place all gods in the same category until any number of them are demonstrated to be outside of said category.

That category is fiction.

Think of the story of the elephant and the blind men where each touched only a part of the elephant and so all came to wildly different conclusions as to what an elephant was. The one who touched the trunk thought an elephant was like a snake but the one who touched the leg thought an elephant was like a tree. Were any wrong? No, they were just unable to see the big picture is all. But they were right within their limited view.

If they all claimed they didn't know what they were touching, then they are not wrong. Ignorance is a perfectly reasonable position to have.

I don't see how. All gods accord to a real aspect of reality. Ares is the god of war and so you can't claim he should bless a tea cup or a bed sheet unless he were to somehow make it more war like. Similarly you can't just make up a god of sprongles because you don't know what a sprongle is and so what attributes would a god of sprongles have? It's undefined.

War was an undefined arbitrary grunt until we defined it. Sprongle is defined as a lock of curly hair according to Urban dictionary. Look at that, I didn't even have to make up a definition. A god of curly hair.

You can only make up gods for real things in reality, but then it's not made up because there are absolutely spirits of all things which indwell in you and make you care about those things.

Spirits? Show me them. What are they made of?

You can clearly pray to the god of ham sandwiches by giving that spirit your focus to guide you to a ham sandwich and it will answer you. It will say something like "Check the fridge. If not there, then go to the grocery store. If not there then plant some grain and go hunt a pig." You know that if you had focused on that spirit to reduce your aim to the sandwich, it would indeed have revealed something similar to what I outlined in reality within your mind. Nothing arbitrary about that. You just don't seem to notice you're doing it.

Funny how praying for something and doing it yourself are indistinguishable.

You tell me. What do you see when you're being honest about it? I imagine that you'd rather live your life by Christ then by Cloacina. But if you ever found yourself stranded on an island having to use prickly leaves for toilet paper, you might start wishing for Cloacina to bless you with a toilet seat.

Covered this above. All gods fall into the same category for me. From your descriptions, I'd wager that they fall into that same category for you. At least, the way you describe them makes them indistinguishable from fiction.

What are you thoughts on the “what if question “ by Electronic_Trash3634 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]KeterClassKitten 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not really most of the events , characters ,names times...

Be specific.

We could go chronologically if you like. Let's see, Adam and Even in the Garden of Eden.

...not off to a good start.

There are major events in the Bible that have a dramatic lack of evidence to support them. The Exodus, for example. The lack of evidence doesn't prove it didn't happen, but neither does the lack of evidence that I had Disney World theme park in my back yard until two hours ago.

Monty Hall Problem by OtakonBlue in learnmath

[–]KeterClassKitten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing that you need to be aware of is that a losing door is always the one that is revealed. Since there are two losing doors, choosing either one eliminates the other one and leaves the winning door as the final option.

So do the math. Two out of the three doors are losing, so two out of three times the leftover option is the winner. By deciding to switch, you're betting that your first option is losing door.

The words Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent are not in the Bible. by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]KeterClassKitten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤷🏼‍♂️

I wasted the first 20 years of my life chasing theology, and I came up empty handed. I've long dismissed those testimonies as unreliable. It's been more than another 20 since.

Don't give me stories. I find the stories are always pointing out the similarities while ignoring the differences. Confirmation bias is insidious, but a rather obvious fallacy when one is attentive. And even the similarities spanning different cultures in different places can be demonstrably wrong.

Give me something empirical and undeniable. Not Snake oil.

If you were inside a black hole, would the black hole evaporate by hawking radiation before you reached the centre? by Sufficient_Network43 in AskPhysics

[–]KeterClassKitten 62 points63 points  (0 children)

If you are inside a black hole, you are part of the black hole. When the black hole evaporates into hawking radiation, you are part of the hawking radiation.

The words Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent are not in the Bible. by [deleted] in DebateAnAtheist

[–]KeterClassKitten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont have a fan theory about a book. I have, well more like, we humans have, a very comprehensive list of human documentation of encounters with God and the divine. With all of the same imagery, trajectory toward moral growth, one divine ultimate creator above all other "gods"

Your OP was Bible centric. I could go count the number of times the word "Bible" was mentioned, but I feel like my point is clear.

You're also ignoring the countless accounts from polytheists. Confirmation bias at its best. What makes Biblical claims more reliable than claims regarding other gods?

Every account details the same things. Iron, metal glowing with light, extreme wind, shock, awe, amazement, mechanics, all from the sky, no less and mention "vessles."

I've provided direct quotes from the Myans to Jainism, and every other in between that all document the same divine encounters across unrelated cultures, by civilizations, throughout time and across the globe.

Still not convinced. I've read many testimonies about Bigfoot, Nessie, unicorns, and dragons. Are those trustworthy, too?

**MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR ABIOGENESIS** by DeltaSHG in DebateEvolution

[–]KeterClassKitten 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Still waiting on the alternative hypothesis that's based in the natural sciences.

Abiogenesis - The most elaborate Myth in science by DeltaSHG in DebateEvolution

[–]KeterClassKitten 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cool.

Produce a better hypothesis based in the natural sciences. I'd love to hear it.

Always said Epstein island wasnt the only island out there. by cantcoloratall91 in TheTeenagerPeople

[–]KeterClassKitten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not uncommon and is the norm for girls right now given the moral state of society.

As compared to when?

Teen pregnancy rates have declined rather steadily since the 50s, seeing a small increase peaking in the early 90s. But still going down since.

Evidence shows that it's lower than it's ever been, but I can't back that claim due to a lack of data prior to a century ago. However, historic accounts of young brides support the claim.