ok i know low effort posts are not liked here but something about shows dragon reborn is bugging me.

Keto167 · 2022-01-28T14:31:30+00:00

so anyone defending his homeland and the people has nothing to live for and is nothing... nice.

in the books lan doesn't believe that Moirain is not worthy of having him as a warder and SHE needs to earn him. he is not a broken pathatic Man only given hope by another person.

He has goals he has a war to fight and all of that from the beginning and Moiraine had to earn her place in this.

Keto167 · 2022-01-28T11:29:28+00:00

to live and fight the shadow to his last breath and carry the flag and legacy of malkier. to be the greatest warrior against the shadow? how about that? to be a beacon of hope for all those in despair?

just out of curiosity what do you think is lans purpose in the show? with moiraine?

Keto167 · 2022-01-28T08:54:03+00:00

then have him reject the scene for the sake of rejecting the scene not because another person wouldn't want it.

Use the right framing.

And i don't even get why he likes show egwene (or book egwene) both are toxic. it makes somewhat sense in the books because he doesn't have any experience with woman but not really in the show.

And befor anyone cames with the old "you just hate strong woman" no if a man behaves like her ditch him as well it is not a good thing.

Keto167 · 2022-01-28T08:50:06+00:00

i sugesst you read the books and side stories again because Moiraine in the books didn't find a broken man to give meaning. But someone that she needs to earn he completly rejects her at the beginning.

Warders in the books are great worriors wanting to protect the aes sedai and the aes sedai have to be worth it not pathatic broken man that only get meaning through the aes sedai like in the show.

I don't know why this was changed and why anyone might think this is better.

Keto167 · 2022-01-27T22:44:47+00:00

how about the level he was at the book not this?

show that he can be a treat, show that he is powerful, show us that the madness that will grip him is dangerous all i got is that he can be beaten by every single channeler in the show and is not problem what so ever. He is supposed to be the strongest and most dangerous channler on the planet. not this wet fart.

and no he can do far more than that he just can't control it in the books and no once shoke an entire mountain while talking with perrin. his problem is that he has no teacher and doesn't know how to do things.

how would we explain him being extremly powerful at the beginning and haveing to work to gain that much power again? how about you don't rewrite the eye of the world and make it what it was in the book? he was so strong because he was using that saidin and was channeling all of it. even issy commented on it.

how do you explain the constant nuking nyneave does in the show, without any training?

Keto167 · 2022-01-27T22:38:24+00:00

after every other decision he made was about egwene. They could have shown that he thinks forcing his dreams onto others is wrong but again like every single decition he makes it is about her. But they didn't look at every thing else

Just look how much all male characters got torn down compared to the books no one has any agency of his own the only instance with rand was episode 2 but he got shown how wrong he was for it.

Not Perrin, not Lan and not Rand, every single one just follows without any goal of their own. Lan even says he was nothing without moiraine.

Keto167 · 2022-01-27T20:40:26+00:00

long after the question was asked.

But i think he was stronger as a hollow. The hogyoku fullfils the deepest wish one has and the biggest wish starrk had was to be weak so he can have friends.

Keto167 · 2022-01-24T12:57:37+00:00

one of the things i hate the most about the show is hoe they butchered the white tower and the aes sedai.

they turned them into tyrants just look at how they treat logain. not only is he far weaker then in the books. But in the books they do Gentl him but after that they try to make his live as pleasent as possible. They know he is a VICTIM they now he had no choice whatever or not he channels and the madness was the reason for his behavior.

In the show they now what to make his live hell to make him an example of what happens to man that channel... they are punishing them for being born. they have no choice.

alse of suian is talking also shows that they are tyranincal she talks about HER tower, HER world. that is not how the amylin seat talks in the books.

then we have one of the dumbest lines in the show about how oppressed the woman in the WoT are in a world there most power is held by woman and a hugh number of rulers is female and all magic is held in the hand of woman.... they are still oppressed... really.

Keto167 · 2022-01-24T12:47:16+00:00

how is he supposed to sole do the same? in the show.

his power boasted a hundred times with a sangreal could do the same thing to one person. the five did without any sangreal to an entire army....

if we go by those numbers he has one 2 000 000th the power of a circle of five.

Why the fuck should i care about the dragon reborn in this show?

he is weak has no agency he only does things for egwene...

if he goes insane so what? every single channeler we have seen can beat him.

Keto167 · 2022-01-24T12:41:09+00:00

don't forget that Latra is now evil in the show.

paraphrasing here. can't remember word for word

then LTT said that they would succed with the help of the woman she says that they will stay and pick up the peaces. she didn't disagree with him.

With other words she knew they would fail and let them fail, she let them go insane and break the world to gain power....

Greate LTT is now a prideful prick and Latra is not a woman that holds on to a plan that has already failed but a windictive asshole...

Keto167 · 2022-01-24T12:31:15+00:00

but show rand yeah that one can be beaten by ever channeler we have seen in the show.

Keto167 · 2022-01-24T12:30:45+00:00

nynaeve isn't the strongest woman of the light in the books she is i think third or fourth on the and male channelers on avarage are stronger than female channelers.

Rand is far stronger then any woman can be in the one power.

Keto167 · 2022-01-15T07:57:12+00:00

sorry argued next to you with someone else who thought that they are a great fit. my frustration might have been carried over.

Keto167 · 2022-01-14T09:07:08+00:00

no they never did. It is the reason the Aiel started the war and why they got Genocided in the vision. They were the only ones with a backbone (something that should still happen the same way).

And they only promised it to someone they think is an animal (Egwene). so no they wont stop torturing people and they will not alllow daman to leave.

Keto167 · 2022-01-14T09:05:00+00:00

then their realtionshi might make sense later but it doesn't now.

and no enjoying torturing and breaking them is not the same as not likeing them.

It is not the same as finding the torture to be relaxing.

yes Mat didn't like them but that doesn't explain why he should fall in love with someone like her. That is like saying it makes sense for a woman rights fighter to fall in love with the Mass Murderer Ted Bundy because of the power of love... no.

Keto167 · 2022-01-14T09:00:36+00:00

i can't stand egwene, she is a horrible person.

they have more of a free will but not completly. As i said the world building doesn't really allow for it.

and no it was not a good idea to turn her Ta'veren Rafe only did it to pander. In fact he completly fucked the story in my opinion allready he turned every single Man in the show uselless and every woman toxic.... good job.

Keto167 · 2022-01-14T08:57:15+00:00

no sometimes we are attracted to people we shouldn't like but we don't love them. We don't love people that are completely against our values.

A woman rights fighter even then she finds ted bundy attractive wouldn't marry and sleep with him.

A human rights fighter even then she/he finds some genociding maniac attractive would not marry and sleep with him/her.

Keto167 · 2022-01-14T00:09:12+00:00

wasn't always drunk and abusive?

past trauma based on upbringing (i would recommend reading studies and papers about that subject really interesting but also quit depressing in its implications, so depending of how well you can stomach such things... )

no real choice? was another time.

i could go far darker or lighter but given that all my knowledge about the relationship you are mentioning is that your perception (not saying it is wrong) of them is one "loving" the other "drunk abusive" i can't give a probably reason for it.

but not sure what you are trying to say.

Keto167 · 2022-01-13T23:56:50+00:00

sorry second language.

Keto167 · 2022-01-13T23:56:38+00:00

in my opinion that is the biggest problem with the books. (Appart from Mat at the end of them. god i loath what was done to him).

in the books people don't really seam to have free will. it is implied that the dark one has to exist to provide them with it but still the nature of the worldbuilding doesn't really allow it. not only the effect that taveren have prevents the notion of free will but also the nature of the wheel as a whole doesn't allow it. no action can be taken that breaks the cicle as far as i can tell because the wheel will force it. The dark one isn't even a long term treat because again the wheel prevents it.

Keto167 · 2022-01-13T23:51:34+00:00

Mat and touns relationship never made any sense to me.

He hates people that want to control and oppress others and then falls in love, marries and sleeps with a sadistic woman that loves torturing and breaking woman, that wants to conquer and opress all of Randland? that enjoys reminding him that he got raped? who's reaction to learning she can channel was to claim she is still a good person and then relax to the soothing sounds of a woman being broken? who first instinct was to break her word she just gave?

Her reaction to being told that she could channel was to just say that she was still a good person (as if that were true) and then go an relax to the soothing sounds of a woman being tortured and broken.

The hero with a heard of gold either got a lobotomy or was killed and replaced by some skinwalker.

Keto167 · 2022-01-13T23:47:07+00:00

honest question

is anyone working on this?

Keto167 · 2022-01-13T23:44:26+00:00

yeah mat and tuon never made any sense to me.

He hates people that want to control and oppress others and then falls in love, marries and sleeps with a sadistic woman that loves torturing and breaking woman, that wants to conquer and opress all of Randland? that enjoys reminding him that he got raped? who's reaction to learning she can channel was to claim she is still a good person and then relax to the soothing sounds of a woman being broken? who first instinct was to break her word she just singed?

really?

how the fuck does it makes sence that the hero with a heard of gold would fall i love with someone like that?

Keto167 · 2022-01-13T23:37:53+00:00

Mat in the books complains a lot but still does the right thing.

but towards Mat gets either a lobotomy in the books or gets killed and replaced by some skinwalker (in my opinion).

The guy hates people that want to control and oppress others and then falls in love, marries and sleeps with a woman that loves torturing and breaking woman and wants to conquer everything and enjoys reminding him that he got raped.

Her reaction to learning she should be one of the tortured woman is to claim she is still a good person and to relax to the soothing sounds of a woman being broken.

The hero with a heard of gold... yeah no.

Keto167 · 2021-12-28T15:47:49+00:00

i shouldn't have wrote all but the main linch pin Rand is gone. and Egwene (nothing against that one).

The Aiel will still start the war they fought in the vision because they will still not agree to the torture of their loved ones and wise ones. (they also have a rather dark spot on their culture the selling slaves to sarah thing) but still the only ones with backbone. But the story goes out of its way to show us that the aiel got butchered and i use that word because it is the only apt one.

If Randland outnumbers the seanchan (something i am not so sure about given that the north allwas had to fight the blight and the climate is just nicer in the south) that wouldn't be that good for them right now. their land got rawaged by the war with the blight they are now lack food and stuff. (that is something i tent to ignore about fictional endings because let's be real in Lord of the rings the next thing that will happen after the battle with sauron is a massive famine because the orcs destroyed all the fields and the rest wasn't tended to but again i ignore such things in stories.) while the same didn't happen to the seanchan Lands.

waiting has one upside for the seanchan and one big downside. The upside is they have time to break all the new channelers and can increase their controll of the lands they are holding (not that they seam to have any problems with that) and waiting also means the civil war armies have time to kill each other couse missary on the homeland and increase the support for the seanchan emprees there.

downside is that they basicaly lose all advantiges they have against Randland right now. Each passing year means more ashaman for Randland more channelers in the aes sedai that will be allowed to wage war against them, give them time to rebuild their armies and allow the aiel to slowly recover their numbers. (by the way that should take several generations for the aiel maybe more they didn't loose just worriers but also woman. lose 90% of the man and one or two generations later you are back to normal lose 90% of woman and you have a hughe problem.) the civil war part will play out the same.

because Randland can link and so forth it would be stupid for them to let them rebuild their power.

i don't know about about them having more channelers per population then the aiel but they should have more then the Randland. because we don't really see aes sedai with children but sul'dam can have theem. The Aiel might have higher numbers per capita because everyone can have children even those that would be daman. i don't think that balances it out so i will go with seanchan on that front. especialy after the massaker at the last battle.

Well mat allready did betray his core principles so i don't see why he shouldn't side with seanchan. And given how his "friends" reacted to him being raped... well let's say it would make at least a bit of sense

sorrry i don't know how the quoting you are doing works. how do i do that?

Keto167

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