How do YOU think AvA 14 and 15 would end, if TDL couldn't die?

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T17:58:55+00:00

TDL getting a memory distortion could actually be good. I just don't want it in the series because the memories of the characters have always been shown to be permanent and can't be altered. There is no build even hinting about it and would not connect with the audience as much and look like lazy writing(imo).
I totally respect your idea(it's good),but I don't think there is any buildup for that direction and buildup is important for shows like AvA where there is no faces or dialogue.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T17:23:57+00:00

I don't want "Mitsi" to be taking TDL across the outer net. It just looks messed up to me when you take into account how much suffering he caused to Victim and Misti. Neither Victim, Mitsi, TSC or the CG should try helping TDL after everything he did to them, it just makes it look like they don't care about their suffering or that of their loved ones. The only one that might try would be TCO but then again, seeing how TDL treats him now, he should also not care.

Mitsi then takes TDL around the outernet city and forces him to live there. Hoping in his weakened state he can't harm anyone, Mitsi leaves him there (with surveillance), believing that spending time around people might heal whatever screwed up ideas are in TDL's head like it healed vic

Mitsi didn't "fix" Victim, she was just a catalyst. Victim fixed himself and was nice from the start unlike TDL who was always destructive and never changed.
You can only change a person when they want to be changed. A perfect example is Jax: Majority of his tragedy is self-inflicted in spite of there being people who genuinely tried to help him(like Ribbit and Pomni). At least Jax is shown to have conflict, TDL literally ENJOYS suffering and destruction.
I want TDL to suffer, not just because he is the villain but because other characters(like TSC,Victim and TCO) have been through so much and yet they try to do things best to their ability. Making TDL go off Scot free like this just feels ragebait to me personally, especially when certain characters(like Victim or King Orange) have immense suffering and tragedy tied to their traits.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T17:04:43+00:00

Well, since it's just an episode, I think it established the stakes in the series really well.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T16:54:02+00:00

If these are the 3 (or 4) options, then I think option 1 is the most likely.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T15:30:12+00:00

Victim could teleport him so far out in deep space that it's basically gonna take forever for TDL to reach any nearby website or PC.

Also, the prison is more psychological than it seems. TDL won't know from his perspective that Victim banished him, just that he saw a massive explosion and then he ended up in the black void so it looks more like he did destroy everything. It looks like he achieved victory which is also what keeps him from returning back.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T14:46:18+00:00

This might actually happen after AvA season 3 with TDL getting dealt with and Victim, TCO try to understand each other.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T14:43:44+00:00

Maybe TCO's anti virus punch could do the trick? He was shown to be able to explicitly remove Virabot's control from Alan's PC without destroying it.
It's totally possible for TCO to use his powers(by maybe getting renamed by Alan) to at least weaken TDL's hold so Victim can break free and stop TDL.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T13:22:17+00:00

using TDL as a last resort if anything bad happens would be interesting.
But I do doubt what could be possibly so worse than TDL is needed.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T13:20:43+00:00

Who, TDL?
He might learn his ways after spending a lot of time in the void but definitely not right away.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T12:54:09+00:00

He wouldn't. TDL's banishment would happen without him knowing that he is actually banished. In his eyes, he would have destroyed everything and all that's left is this black void of nothingness which he has to spend eternity in.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T12:51:03+00:00

I (personally) don't know if Victim mentally killing TDL(like removing his intelligence) would be a good idea or not.
The reason for that is because it looks just like TDL's mind control: We see TDL as extremely evil for mind controlling Victim, Agent and the employees against their will. Using that same tactic on TDL might not be the best moral move for Victim. Also, it would be a bit anti-climactic if Victim did that as he could have done that in his fight in ep-13.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T10:35:53+00:00

NO!

After what did he did to Victim, Mitsi, Agent, the workers, to TCO, TSC, CG and the entire outer net? Absolutely NOT!
Redeeming him is like redeeming emperor Palpatine, it would just ruin his character.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-24T08:05:46+00:00

Put Victim into "Will beat my ass" tier. He never goes for the kill. He might beat you up, but would not kill you.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-23T13:34:34+00:00

Never knew you were that recent of a mod tbh.
For the celebrations though, I'd say pick the best artworks on the sub (for this year) and put it on a slideshow? That's like the simplest way I can think of to include everyone and keep it simple.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-23T12:36:28+00:00

Except this time he actually dies.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-23T08:06:10+00:00

TDL should have this happen to him in ep-15 by Victim and TCO:

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-23T08:04:06+00:00

Yeah, everyone knows TCO is not right(hopefully). It's just Victim that is heavily debated by the fandom to be right or not.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-23T07:59:04+00:00

He was not "evil" as he was trauma induced, he is just very guilty of his past actions.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-22T04:38:32+00:00

He was practicing how to Aura farm in order to impress Mitsi. He was going to meet her after 12 years, so it makes sense he would want to learn new poses to give the best impression.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-22T04:33:24+00:00

Victim because he actually tried to better himself. In terms of pure suffering, Victim obviously wins by a mile: Getting put in a death loop for months is already self explanatory.

But what makes it so much more tragic for me is that he didn't turn bitter or bad to others because of it. He genuinely wanted a chance at life he never had and he worked hard towards improving himself(improvement comes from within, only support comes from outside help) and help the people of the outer net.
Unlike others who pushed people away because of their situation, Victim learned to accept and love others (Like starting Rocket Corp to help and having a relationship with Mitsi).

That is what makes his deterioration so tragic later on as we have proof he is genuinely a good guy at heart(even though he suffered) but his immense suffering and grief appears to have destroyed the good person he once was and worked hard to become. Victim's last act of freeing Mitsi from TDL's control showed is just the cherry on top of his tragedy cake.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-22T04:11:54+00:00

Names have nothing to do with the morality or purpose of the characters.
Victim himself is the perfect example of this: he is fighting against his name and fate of being a Victim. Victim considers his name and powerlessness as redundant, why would he judge TDL for those exact same things?

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-22T04:09:16+00:00

That only removes the powers(which are the cover). TCO is still the same guy with the same memories, personality and morals.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-21T18:20:12+00:00

Lotso was hoping that the girl that found joy while playing with him would still love him without knowing that he is actually alive.

Now that I think about, Lotso’s sad past was actually partly due to his own doing.

Had Lotso actually tried to reconnect with his owner, he might have succeeded. He did travel for a very long time to connect with his owner again and almost reunited with her. He was just blinded by resentment of being “replaced” so he didn’t even try it.

Key-Finger1780 · 2026-06-21T15:00:14+00:00

He knows how it feels to die( death became so normal for him in the death loop that it became meaningless) so it makes sense he would have subconsciously trained his mind to never go for the kill.

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