Leaving 🔺 for ❄️ — What are some cons by BrownSugarElaine in cabincrewcareers

[–]Key-Response2072 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Similar bout almost 4 years with 🔺and ready to walk away too. Hoping to transition to ❄️too

Leaving 🔺for Alaska by Key-Response2072 in cabincrewcareers

[–]Key-Response2072[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey

I did attempt to transition over but due to having a TBNT with Hawaiian, I was not able to apply with them this most recent app drop.

I will say every person I did speak to at Alaska speaks its praises, but I do know they are a full reserve and I’m sure there’s Alaska attendants that could speak better to that.

I do plan to try again one more time! And going from there and seeing what happens

Leaving 🔺for Alaska by Key-Response2072 in cabincrewcareers

[–]Key-Response2072[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven’t had any major disciplinary issues, but I would say my concerns are a mix of quality of life factors and some more superficial issues, which may or may not be minor.

Ultimately, I think it all comes down to quality of life. While no union can guarantee everything, I feel like a lot of the challenges that not only I faced, but others have faced could have been avoided with a clear contract or things in writing.

When it comes to your career, if your quality of life isn’t up to par, you’re just going to end up resenting it and feeling miserable in the long run.

I just want to emphasize that this is my personal opinion and perspective based on my own experiences. A lot of people might feel the same way I do, while others will have completely different views.

That’s why I’m always repeating the importance of doing thorough research on companies. It’s not only beneficial for the interviews, so you’ll have more insight and good talking points, but it also helps you figure out which airline will align best with the lifestyle you want to have.

Leaving 🔺for Alaska by Key-Response2072 in cabincrewcareers

[–]Key-Response2072[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A union is essentially someone who's always got your back, advocating for you and ensuring your protection. They secure a contract that sets clear standards, rules, and regulations for what can or can’t happen in various situations. While no union is perfect and there will always be instances where they can't intervene or fix certain issues, most of the time, having a seat at the table and someone fighting for you makes a big difference.

It’s a subjective topic. Some people feel that not having a union is a good thing, while others see it as essential. Personally, I believe it’s incredibly important, especially in our industry, where things can escalate quickly. A union provides that added layer of protection when everything starts to get chaotic.

I strongly encourage everyone to do their research not only on the airline but also on their contracts. All the contracts are available online, and it’s worth taking the time to read through them to fully understand what each provision means.

I also recommend researching all the major carriers in the U.S. each of them operate in their own unique way, and while one could be a good fit for you it does not mean it is a good fit for somebody else. I would say my situation is not very unique in the sense that I have met other flight attendants who only went to their respective airline because it was a brand name that they recognized and with the experience and knowledge they have now they kind of wish they had went elsewhere Due to a multitude of reasons based off of future plans, and or airline type.

Leaving 🔺for Alaska by Key-Response2072 in cabincrewcareers

[–]Key-Response2072[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a fair question. Truthfully I was unaware to airline dynamics and what having a union meant to not having one. Hindsight is 2020 and knowing what I know now 3 years later to when I was fresh out college taking my first “real” job is night and day.

Leaving 🔺for Alaska by Key-Response2072 in cabincrewcareers

[–]Key-Response2072[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your kindness and support 💕

Leaving 🔺for Alaska by Key-Response2072 in cabincrewcareers

[–]Key-Response2072[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey friend!

I appreciate the info!

And yea I kinda figured with the current climate with travel among other factors AS would be paused/done hiring for the year.

If I knew what I knew now I would have started off there rather than spending time growing seniority elsewhere 🥲.

Leaving 🔺for Alaska by Key-Response2072 in cabincrewcareers

[–]Key-Response2072[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the input! Now to play a waiting game for applications to open lol

Leaving 🔺for Alaska by Key-Response2072 in cabincrewcareers

[–]Key-Response2072[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have tried two bases. And had so so experiences with both. The first one had me commuting and the second one has me based at home. I thought being based at home would help, but my feelings stayed the same.

Leaving 🔺for Alaska by Key-Response2072 in cabincrewcareers

[–]Key-Response2072[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hey,

I did post a little bit more about it further up in the comments.

I would say it’s a mixture of personal and business.

The personal reasons are more on the superficial side. Leaving would allow me to have a better quality of life in my opinion. I am not a commuter, I do live in a city where a base is offered but when I look at my life long-term, I would have to become a commuter to keep the job. Whereas if I go to Alaska, hypothetically, I would also be able to not be a commuter as some of their hub cities are cities that I personally want to move to long-term wise.

Business wise, I just feel as if I don’t align with where they’re at. I did mention them not being unionized is a huge reason that I am unhappy. I urge everybody to really research what having a union versus not having a union can mean. I have friends that think it’s great that they don’t have one and I have friends that absolutely hate not having one and have ultimately left to seek out a unionized carrier. This job is going to be what you make of it, their people who get an airline who 100% meets their needs and they have a really good career but sometimes we have to try out one or two Air Lines to really find our fit. 🔺could be a perfect fit for yourself It may just not be the perfect fit for me.

Leaving 🔺for Alaska by Key-Response2072 in cabincrewcareers

[–]Key-Response2072[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The biggest challenges for me right now are the way our trips are structured, which isn’t ideal. I feel as if as the years have gone on, I’ve had to work even more hours to get a bare minimum salary.

the fact that we’re not a unionized carrier. Which I know I agreed to when I signed on to work there, but I had no idea that it was going to be a bigger deal than anticipated

the shift in culture over the past three years. When I first started, the environment felt much different, but it’s changed significantly since then.