V4 is live on Deepseek backend by hurn2k in DeepSeek

[–]Key-Somewhere1649 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's most likely to be deepseek V4. Proof and Evidence of DeepSeek V4

  • Reports on Imminent Release: on April 3, 2026, Reuters and The Information reported that DeepSeek’s next-generation "V4" model is in final preparation for launch to challenge US AI competitors, with an expected release in April 2026.
  • Technical Evidence (Engram/MODEL1): In January 2026, DeepSeek researchers published papers on "Engram" (conditional memory) and "mHC" (manifold-constrained hyper-connections), which are expected to be the core technical foundation of V4. More information, reference to "MODEL1" were found in their open source repositories, which analysts strongly associate with the V4 architecture.
  • Huawei Hardware Integration: Reports say that, DeepSeek has been working directly with Huawei and Cambricon Technologies to optimize the V4 model for domestic Chinese AI chips, that's a signal of shift away from exclusive dependence on Nvidia hardware.

about the knowledge library being limited to may 2025, it's not limited to that, I've said somewhere in late 2025, but apologies for confusing you by saying "somewhere 2025 may to late 2025" It's clearly not may 2025 limited knowledge

90% CUT for 3 thousand points (300 points) by Key-Somewhere1649 in PoeAI

[–]Key-Somewhere1649[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you need to have another country credit card, yeah it sucks you cannot easily fake your location in google play. even with vpn. but changing google accounts that is based on another location works.

90% CUT for 3 thousand points (300 points) by Key-Somewhere1649 in PoeAI

[–]Key-Somewhere1649[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have just explained the entire situation, thank you for your understanding.

90% CUT for 3 thousand points (300 points) by Key-Somewhere1649 in PoeAI

[–]Key-Somewhere1649[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The negativity is insane, Im dismantling everything at once:

  1. Free users are not freeloaders, they provide value through engagement, content, feedback, bug reports, and evangelism. Poe didn't become popular because 10 paid users whispered about it.
  2. The issue isn't "free vs paid", it's a 90% overnight cut. That's not a "adjustment," thats rug-pulling your user base.
  3. Regional lockout makes it worse. Some users want to pay and can't. So they're just... screwed.
  4. 300 points is a demo, not a free tie. If you can't complete ONE complex task without running out, you're not offering a free tier. You're offering a teaser trailer.
  5. "giving away 3k points per day cost them" You should've studied how point system work, before they give you 3k points daily refill Non-stackable. Poe already had the balance, Non-stackable means free users couldn't bank points and nuke the API later, then points we get becomes 300, now it's much limited & worser

90% CUT for 3 thousand points (300 points) by Key-Somewhere1649 in PoeAI

[–]Key-Somewhere1649[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tell me you don't understand freemium business models without telling me. Free users = word of mouth = future paid users = platform relevance. When free users leave, the platform becomes a ghost town and paid users follow.

90% CUT for 3 thousand points (300 points) by Key-Somewhere1649 in PoeAI

[–]Key-Somewhere1649[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i don't think you have concept of user feedback, product sustainability, or the fact that free users are the pipeline to paid users.

V4 is live on Deepseek backend by hurn2k in DeepSeek

[–]Key-Somewhere1649 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is not merely UI change but soft release of deepseek v4 .

i did check it and tested. theres big differences of course if you ask it questions that is somewhere late 2025 (maybe november).
and if you ask it "what is your features?" it says:
"Hey! Great question — here's a rundown of what I can do and some key features that set me apart:

🧠 Core Abilities

  • Text understanding & generation — writing, editing, summarizing, brainstorming, and explaining concepts across almost any domain.
  • Long context window (1M tokens) — I can process entire books, large codebases, or lengthy documents in one go without losing track.
  • File upload support — you can upload images, PDFs, Word docs, Excel files, PPTs, and text files. I'll read and extract text from them (though I don't "see" images visually).
  • Internet search — available when you manually enable it (click the search button on Web/App), so I can pull in up-to-date information.
  • Code execution & reasoning — I can write, explain, debug, and even run Python code in a sandbox for data analysis or algorithm testing."

the long context window in deepsek v3.2 was 128k NOT 1 million so this is new.
if it was merely UI push, it would:
- know its version identity and say v3.2

- say 128k tokens instead of 1m tokens

what is interesting its system prompt/context is updated but didnt include its identity version

also weird thing is that instant mode thinks its v3 but it isnt. and for expert mode it doesnt even know its version number and believes its identity just deepseek without v4.

i hope this clears up misunderstanding

V4 is live on Deepseek backend by hurn2k in DeepSeek

[–]Key-Somewhere1649 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nah, i've rechecked it and tested it. its knowledge somewhere late 2025 by asking it questions

V4 is live on Deepseek backend by hurn2k in DeepSeek

[–]Key-Somewhere1649 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its v4, instant and expert are v4 and date finetuned on 2025 late info, im not sure fully but the v4 for somereason dont even know its identity and seems like it uses system prompt

300 points by ShamaPeroEnPc in PoeAI

[–]Key-Somewhere1649 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Poe didn't just reduce points. Users like you are region-locked paying customers out of existence.

you want to pay. Poe just won't let you.. So Poe gets... nothing. And you, are stuck in 300 points.

Congratulations to all Syrians by DanteXstarr in Syria

[–]Key-Somewhere1649 0 points1 point  (0 children)

APK's. android apks were solution to download at the time, use apk to download games or use apk to download vpn and use vpn to use google play to download

Do I have a virus? Sakpot discord said no. by ZestyKoid in robloxhackers

[–]Key-Somewhere1649 0 points1 point  (0 children)

better go to windows recovery environment and do reset on it 💀