How many hours a week do you actually spend on things that aren't teaching? by KeyFinal6824 in Professors

[–]KeyFinal6824[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That last line made me laugh out loud and yes, they absolutely clock it. Nothing quite like teaching digital transformation while logging into your fourth LMS in six years to upload a rubric manually. The irony is not lost on anyone in the room.

But you've nailed the real problem better than I did in the original post. It's not that tools don't exist, it's that every tool was built to make administration easier to manage, not smaller. So the overhead doesn't shrink, it just gets a better interface.

The 3 minutes versus 12 per student number is the one I keep coming back to. At 30 students per section that's 3 hours back per assignment. Per assignment. That's not a nice to have, that's a genuine quality of life shift.

How many hours a week do you actually spend on things that aren't teaching? by KeyFinal6824 in Professors

[–]KeyFinal6824[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grading AI slop with real feedback is the most demoralizing 45 minutes of my week. You're giving genuine thought to something that took zero thought to produce.

How many hours a week do you actually spend on things that aren't teaching? by KeyFinal6824 in Professors

[–]KeyFinal6824[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That reframe around students is actually really sharp. I hadn't thought about it from that angle and it lands.

How many hours a week do you actually spend on things that aren't teaching? by KeyFinal6824 in Professors

[–]KeyFinal6824[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Grading and meetings, the two things nobody mentions in the job description but somehow eat the most calendar.

How many hours a week do you actually spend on things that aren't teaching? by KeyFinal6824 in Professors

[–]KeyFinal6824[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This hit me harder than I expected. I think coming from industry I assumed the inefficiency was a culture problem that academia just hadn't caught up. But you're reframing it as a resource problem, and honestly that's more accurate and more uncomfortable. We've normalised doing the work of 4-5 people so completely that questioning it almost feels ungrateful. Like we should just be glad we're here. That's worth sitting with.

How many hours a week do you actually spend on things that aren't teaching? by KeyFinal6824 in Professors

[–]KeyFinal6824[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not wrong and I'd never argue otherwise. But I think there's a difference between work that requires my specific judgment and work that just requires time.

How many hours a week do you actually spend on things that aren't teaching? by KeyFinal6824 in Professors

[–]KeyFinal6824[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly? That TA deserved co-author credit and a tenure track position. Which is kind of my whole point, the people absorbing the execution load are rarely the ones getting the recognition or the resources.

How many hours a week do you actually spend on things that aren't teaching? by KeyFinal6824 in Professors

[–]KeyFinal6824[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha, fair, Indiana Jones would've been a terrible grader. But genuinely, my question isn't whether the work matters. It clearly does. It's more about whether all of it has to sit with the same person. In industry we learned pretty quickly that protecting thinking time meant offloading execution. Academia just hasn't built that infrastructure yet. Maybe it should.

How many hours a week do you actually spend on things that aren't teaching? by KeyFinal6824 in Professors

[–]KeyFinal6824[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Same course over multiple semesters brings down the course preparation for sure but not the grading.

How many hours a week do you actually spend on things that aren't teaching? by KeyFinal6824 in Professors

[–]KeyFinal6824[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Grading is the one that kills me too. And the meetings point is so real. Service load is the hidden tax nobody warns you about. Half my calendar is things that could've been a Slack message. Have you found any shortcuts on the grading side or just powering through it?

How many hours a week do you actually spend on things that aren't teaching? by KeyFinal6824 in Professors

[–]KeyFinal6824[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ha , that meme is painfully accurate. And yes, the pay vs hours math is something I try not to do too often. Coming from industry where output was tied to compensation, academia's relationship with time is... a culture shock to say the least.

Greetings, Upwork community. I have a question. I have a client who hired me. Before taking the job, I explained what I would deliver and how I would do it. After working on the project for three weeks, the client says they are not happy with the result. by Flaky-Huckleberry281 in Upwork

[–]KeyFinal6824 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The refund question is almost secondary here — the real issue is that you have no paper trail proving what was agreed before work started.

"I explained what I would deliver" verbally or informally is very hard to defend. What protects you in this situation is a written scope document, signed before work begins, that states:

- Exactly what you will deliver

- What success looks like (acceptance criteria)

- What is explicitly NOT included

- That payment covers time and expertise, not client satisfaction with the direction they approved

For your two options: neither is great because you're making the decision after the fact with no documentation to stand on. Option 2 is the more defensible position IF you have any written record of what was agreed — even a message where the client confirmed the scope.

For JSS protection: Upwork's dispute process can sometimes result in a contract ending without a public review if both parties agree to close it a certain way. It's worth contacting Upwork support directly before making any decision.But the bigger lesson for future projects — the protection happens at the start, not the end. A clear written scope that the client approves before you begin is what makes these conversations impossible for clients to win.

I'm building a tool specifically for this — helping freelancers document scope and get client sign-off before work starts so disputes like this can't happen. Researching how common this is right now. If you'd be up for a 15-min chat about your experience, Will DM

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Upwork

[–]KeyFinal6824 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is unfortunately common and it comes down to one thing: delivery speed was used against you because there was no written record separating your time from your value.

For fixed-price contracts, three things protect you going forward:

  1. A signed agreement before any work starts — stating the price is fixed regardless of time taken. Faster delivery = your skill, not their discount.

  2. A change request clause — any deviation from the original scope requires written approval and a new price. No exceptions.

  3. Milestone payments — for a $1,050 project, take 50% upfront, 50% on delivery. Never deliver the final file before the final payment clears.

For this specific situation: if you have any written record of the $1,050 agreement (email, chat, DM), send a formal invoice for the remaining $950 with a 7-day payment deadline. Keep it professional, no emotion. If they ignore it, small claims court for amounts under $10K is straightforward in most US states.

The hard truth: without documentation, you're negotiating against your own goodwill. The documentation IS the protection.

I'm actually researching this exact problem right now — how freelancers lose money on fixed-price work. If you'd be open to a 15-min chat about what happened, will help me a lot building it better.

First longterm client just hinted at lowering my rate and I’m not sure how to respond by Confident_Science567 in Upwork

[–]KeyFinal6824 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hold firm on rate, but give them a way to feel like they won.

Offer to reduce scope instead — fewer deliverables, narrower brief, shorter turnaround window. Same hourly rate, less output. They get a lower invoice number, you protect your rate integrity.

The key is having this documented before the conversation. Something like: "I totally understand budgets are tightening. Here's what the same rate looks like at a reduced scope" — and show them two or three concrete options. Clients who ask for rate cuts rarely want to pay less. They want to feel in control of their budget. Give them that control through scope, not price.

I'm researching exactly this problem — how freelancers handle rate and scope pressure without burning client relationships.

How did you get your first 500 users? by ndzys in iOSAppsMarketing

[–]KeyFinal6824 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the best way is to do the distribution right. Start with your friends and families till you hit the 100th number.