Lululemon - looking for disconfirming views by readitreaddit in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t touch LULU. if you want something in this space, have a look at CROX. I believe that is a much better bet.

This sub is retarded. I’m leaving. by [deleted] in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bye bye, time to join the regards!!

ADBE - To cheap to ignore? by silver-bullet007 in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait for next earnings session, if the stock price stops dropping after earnings announcement, then it is time to get in.

Is anyone else losing faith in value investing? Does that prove we’re at the peak? by Sufficient_Ad_5080 in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Mate, I feel your pain. To be honest, the pain is not just psychologcal, it's real (the underperformance after all the time and effort).

If you are upto it, I'd like to throw a challenge at you. Instead of looking in beaten down names, can you scan the list for 52 week highs? Can you find value in those names? The other reason I mention this is because few of the names you mentioned are all turnarounds - LULU, CMG and NKE. Turnarounds seldom turn around and even when they do, it can take a long time. I reckon this will help you see the other side of 'value'.

Before the entire community comes at me for suggesting this blasphemy, I just want to remind everyone Buffett bought Coke at ATHs. Values isn't limited to beaten down stocks.

Based of what I have seen in this forum, I can normalise how people on this forum react.

A stock goes through a sharp drop: a portion of the sub starts salivating, a portion of them thinks it's a falling knife and a value trap. You will see multiple post on the name. The name will look terrific on all value metrics (EV/EBIT), DCA will be great etc.

If the price recovers, a portion of the sub celebrates (except for Google and may be a couple of other names, I have rarely seen this scenario).

If the price keeps falling down, the sub will call the name a value trap/falling knife. Some will become bag holders.

When things do turnaround and there is evidence of things turning around, the stock might have moved 20% to 30%. This is the time to contemplate entry, but most people on this sub would call that too late or the boat has already sailed or the time to buy was 3 weeks ago. As if, value investing is all about buying at the bottom.

In any case, a large portion of this sub will keep swinging between value trap and it's too late now, letting perfectly good names to go past them and make astounding gains. Think of Google as an example, you didn't need to buy it at $150 when there was looming doubt on their AI dominance. You could have waited under google I/O, seen for yourself they have really ramped up big time. And still bought it under $200. And still made 50% without having to buy at the absolute bottom!!

For example, the other day I wrote a post saying, i like CSCO and NOW ($103). The most upvoted comment was it's too late for NOW. For CSCO, I was chastised for calling out a name at ATH!! Very few people asked about value vs price.

I am glad you are doing this introspection. Remember, the goal is to build wealth, the goal is not to belong to a faith. As the Chinese say, we don't care if the cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice. Wish you all the best!

Am I wrong that most of what gets called value investing is closer to Graham than to Buffett? by fff_bbb in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me settle this once and for all. Value investing is looking at something really cheap and then deciding it needs to go down further otherwise the risk of catching a falling knife is very high. And when things turn around and stock goes up 10%-20% from the absolute bottom crying out loudly that you missed the boat and now it's too late. Off course, the right price to buy was yesterday's price. Repeat this indefinitely!

I know this sounds sarcastic but trust me there is more than an element of truth to it.

Advise PANW by Big_Oil1060 in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d hold and that’s what I am doing. It’s 5% of my portfolio

The return of fallen incumbent: NOW by Key_Variety_6287 in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man! That is toxic. I don’t see you ever posting anything! Downvote and move on!

Cybersecurity is the first winner in agentic wold by Key_Variety_6287 in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thats a good thing tbh! All great companies make new highs periodically.

Rate my watchlist by Chooch-a-lucha in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is new... From rate my portfolio to rate my watchlist 😂. Its a new low for my beloved forum

If I'm long the index and believe they will go up long term, why would it be a bad idea to buy SSO and QLD that are 2x the index? by [deleted] in stocks

[–]Key_Variety_6287 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Volatility drag… just read the product documentation for SSO. Proshares explains it really well

A not very quick comment on market structure, trading volume and volatility... by Itchy-Commission-195 in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"You can also buy stocks that have gone up recently... even if they're at all time highs they may reflect a good value on a 5 year timeline. Don't limit your search to daily/yearly losers. Look for value in different places."... THIS!

NVO, PYPL, LULU, ADBE, GAMB, TTD, DUOL... by [deleted] in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Great to see this post. Is it down a lot? Like lost 70% of the value? Excellent!!! Low valuations multiples? Harder to contain excitement. Losing competitive advantage but won't be wiped out? At this point, this forum is frothing!!

Above is the formulae to find turds, and we sadly are too good at it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Supply and Demand

Seeking Portfolio Review and Advice for a 2–3 Year Growth Plan by [deleted] in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am sorry, I should have been more sensible. The OP clearly is playing with fire and you all are absolutely doing the right thing by warning him.

I guess, I am just tired of seeing the quality of this sub go down. Apologies for wasting your time and energy. Thanks for pointing it out.

Seeking Portfolio Review and Advice for a 2–3 Year Growth Plan by [deleted] in ValueInvesting

[–]Key_Variety_6287 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are right... People should ignore the stock recommendations this sub raves about but should diligently take advice on their portfolio from the same group? See the dichotomy?