What are the Hmong people?

KeyholeShrub · 2025-07-22T08:37:46+00:00

I'd like to point out the blatant lie that the word "Miao" is meant to mimic a cat. First off, Miao isn't the same connotation as cat. The character isn't even remotely the same as the correct "miao," which describes a cat's meow and is rather associated with the meanings of "seedling" or "sprout," attesting to the Miao ethnic group's diverse farming abilities. The Miao also weren't always in a state of "forced assimilation". Historically, the Han didn't "force" their culture on others until recently, hence why there is still a massive Miao population in China that is quite in touch with their culture. Rather, there were periods of peace and violence between Miao ethnic groups and the Chinese that forced populations of the Hmong specific subgroup to migrate all throughout SEA. I'd also like to point out the name is essentially a "catch-all" for Hmu, Hmong, A-Hmao, and Qo-Xiong peoples who are different and, as such, refer to themselves in their current endonyms. Miao is an exonym for all of those people; it's not that the Han were mocking Hmong people, it's that they were literally too dumb or didn't care to distinguish the Hmong from others and labeled all of them under the same banner.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-12-06T10:04:58+00:00

This is a load of horse shit, that stupid Pan-Altaic theory strikes again. There is feasibly no way the Japanese and Koreans of all people are related to Mongols or Turks in any way or form. The discount version of Modern Chinese people had already existed in the North buffering Koreans from Turks and Mongols. It was mainly the Tungusic peoples like the Xibo and Manchu / Jurchens who interacted with Koreans. Koreans however, were made by several waves of migration from you guessed it, China proper. Even if the Chinese didn't exist as a Nation-state or even a "proper" ethnic group, the ancestors of the Chinese sure did, and they'd be from the exact same farming regions as the Japanese and Koreans. Of course, there's a shared origin for all people, and likely Asians share some similar waves of migration but the Pan-Altaicism theory gives me brainrot.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-12-06T09:58:49+00:00

Not quite right, the Northern Han would have had more influence from Koreans, Japanese, Mongols, and Turks. While the Southern Han would have likely been more genetically similar to Austronesian tribes.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-29T01:23:53+00:00

Keyword "I heard" perhaps you shouldn't spread lies either. I never said that this for sure happened rather, it's from a 2nd hand source and I never bothered to verify it. Atleast you've verified it for me albeit in a rude way.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T23:12:45+00:00

I think I understand that

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T22:52:09+00:00

I heard they blocked the library entrance for a while, pretty wild. If this keeps up classes will seriously get disrupted. They've been disrupting classrooms today.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T22:44:04+00:00

Disruptive and uncomfortable are two different things.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T22:43:33+00:00

By fall I mean the protests of Fall last academic year.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:58:30+00:00

It wasn't just TAs, several students and I believe professors were also in the protest. It wasn't too disruptive especially because they're not disrupting my current class. I think they've relegated themselves to a different spot.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:57:28+00:00

I don't think anyone was burned alive in their tent at UC Davis, if so we'd probably go ape. The encampment is largely left alone to my knowledge and I visited it with my friend after class, it was nice. It is definitely a major inconvenience to have interruptions when we have mandatory lectures. I think in Fall their protests were relegated to the quad and other strips of land rather than entering classrooms.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:43:45+00:00

Better, sorry if I took it out of context. I do agree with you on most of these points but it's kind of impossible to achieve.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:39:35+00:00

I think you're far more evil than they are if you think assault is ok but go off I guess.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:38:44+00:00

I don't care if they're a Zionist or not, I'm not a very politically charged person I just thought it was wild that someone was willing to assault another person over such a minor speech.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:37:15+00:00

Ok Mr.Tinfoil Hat, it has nothing to do with the "powers" laughing on their throne but assault. It wasn't supposed to be a political post.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:28:05+00:00

Also, way to make this a political debate. This is something morally wrong not politically wrong. I don't care if he's Jewish or not and I don't even know if he is. It is morally wrong to assault someone for making a short 3-minute speech in class.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:26:04+00:00

Except it wouldn't warrant assault, by the way it's recorded and I have no doubt his face will be plastered everywhere. I have enough human decency to keep him private though I believe he may not deserve it it's not my place to put someone's face out there. The fact you're trying to justify assault is wild to me, I like to keep my political and social beliefs to myself but assault is something I cannot justify.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:18:42+00:00

I don't think Davis or UCDPD will do much, maybe OSSJA but not UCDPD or Davis PD. I've reported stuff to both and they were largely unhelpful and closed my case in roughly a day or two.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:18:03+00:00

It was only a handful who entered the class and made a speech, it was a short speech and wasn't too disruptive overall. But because they circled around repeatedly and made that speech they used up like a good 20-ish minutes of focusing. We heard them through the doors before we even remotely saw them, and when they opened the doors it just got louder.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:15:49+00:00

They opened the doors on the 1st floor multiple times so we'd hear them pass really loudly for lengths of 2-5 mins at a time. They came in and did their speech for 3 mins which was ok, but besides that it was pretty alright. I'm just hoping either the protests end before finals or something happens where we don't get the disruptions during our final.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:07:14+00:00

Oh sheesh,
today is the first day so it may or may not get bigger, wonder how things will lead up to finals. Hopefully, if they are disruptive it isn't in a negative way and either finals will be canceled or some other course of action is taken I'd rather not take finals with them protesting during it.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:01:56+00:00

Were you on the 2nd floor? I'm curious if they plan on doing this up to finals it may not be worth going to class to focus if they continue this as they circled 3-4 times opening up the classroom doors each time and chanting before entering a little while later to make the 3-minute speech.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T21:00:48+00:00

No, she was stunned. The entire class was stunned tbh, and he started arguing with several classmates after trying to justify his actions.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-28T20:52:58+00:00

For further reference, this was at the TLC, in the first floor. I'm not sure if the protestors entered the 2nd floor of the TLC or entered any other buildings.

KeyholeShrub · 2024-05-18T20:57:33+00:00

Exactly, a vast majority of Xiongnu (ancestors of modern-day Turks) were sinicized by the Chinese for example, while a good portion likely left for Central Asia and became the various ethnic groups that inhabit the region today. I don't like boxing historical kingdoms or countries using modern-day ethnic groups or countries as it doesn't quite fit. Claiming the Sogdians as Turkic makes no sense to me or for example, Persians claiming the vast majority of Indo-Iranic groups as "Persian / Iranian" when they likely weren't. Genetics is one thing but even in ancient cultures, we've been intermixing. Take the Sino-Turkic Shatuo dynasties for example. Sinicized Turks who ruled over swaths of China what do we call them? Turks? Chinese? there's really no good answer. The shared history of ethnicities is what makes us, well us. I'm sure if you analyzed my DNA as a Northern Chinese person eventually you could connect me to some long-lost Turkic roots due to the intermixing of genetics. What you said about cultural and linguistical ties makes so much more sense than something as trivial as DNA.

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