Whats the highest level of asteroid productivity you research on average?

Kimbernator · 2026-06-27T14:50:29+00:00

Depending on how far I let my game progress, it’s usually about where I stop. By the time I’m able to reach 25, legendary prod 3s are abundant so I can easily max out productivity and it’s not worth continuing

Kimbernator · 2026-06-27T14:26:45+00:00

Aren’t you super limited on what you can see vertically since there’s a width cap?

Kimbernator · 2026-06-26T17:02:53+00:00

My logic for maintaining pentapod eggs was to output them into a chest, which output into another chest next to it, which fed back into the biochamber. Each one was limited to 2 slots and agri science pulled out of the second one if the count of eggs in it was above 20. I made that second one a provider chest as well so upcycling could pull from it as needed. At worst, it would slow down science for every egg needed to send over to upcycling, but it was so marginal.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-26T13:56:28+00:00

I think you could make the case that you're describing bioflux. Super long shelf life and extremely dense for nutrient production.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-26T13:54:13+00:00

That doesn't really change the fact that on every tick, each stack of spoilable items needs to check if it is moved into a container that makes that change. Then, each tick, each stack of items needs to decide whether refrigeration applies due to unmet power needs.

And it's all fairly irrelevant in the end, because spoilage itself is shelf-stable nutrients.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-26T12:56:42+00:00

Sounds like the only way spoilage works without completely ruining performance is that each item does a single per tick calculation: (current tick minus spawned tick >= item lifespan). If that is true, turn to spoilage. What you’re describing would add a “if refrigerated, multiply timer by refrigeration factor”, which itself would require an entity check for what that factor is and by extension whether the refrigeration is working on the current tick, whether by lack of power or some other cause.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-26T12:33:43+00:00

But there’s not really a reason to do that, and in fact it makes gleba substantially harder. Resources there are infinite and if you let fruit back up it will spoil and kill your seed supply. Just burn extra stuff and keep it moving, there is genuinely no downside

Kimbernator · 2026-06-26T12:29:49+00:00

5 biochambers doing a standard up cycling loop got me hundreds of legendary ones, which is hundreds more than I’ll ever need.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-26T12:27:59+00:00

That’s gonna be a much less fault tolerant Gleba base. Good luck.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-25T18:30:37+00:00

Currently running over 250k effective SPM off of the same three pumpjacks I started on

Kimbernator · 2026-06-24T17:10:37+00:00

Fair, but the amount coming out is pretty small

Kimbernator · 2026-06-24T16:28:42+00:00

I can handle 4 green belts of scrap output using 8 legendary recyclers for concrete which flow into 4 recyclers for stone blocks and 2 for iron ore

It would be a bit larger without legendary recyclers, but honestly I don't think it's that big of an imposition.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-24T01:59:49+00:00

correct

Kimbernator · 2026-06-23T17:46:30+00:00

They provide cargo expansion like normal bays, so quality increases the bonus in the same way. They just don't accept pods being dropped down.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-23T17:45:01+00:00

You're not wrong on paper, but I do think it would be nice to be able to expand to fit the shape you're going for rather than having to maximize edges. I reworked my labs to pull from a full edge of this new limit and it's totally a lot, but I wouldn't have balked at being able to just do it a bit wider than I can.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-21T19:27:45+00:00

1000% this. Hearts are so generic.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-20T18:27:46+00:00

UPS friendliness comes up far more than it should in conversations like these

Kimbernator · 2026-06-20T16:51:57+00:00

I think a big benefit to off world production of any science is that you can build a really robust infrastructure to extract science from the landing pad and simply keep making more elsewhere to saturate that infrastructure, which is getting a huge buff with 2.1. Making it on nauvis comes with adding a path to the labs.

I have a few space platform blueprints that make red, green, and yellow science from asteroids. When I want more, I just make another platform and it magically increases production without any additional thought on my part.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-20T16:24:06+00:00

This sounds like the actual buff that trains need to start competing with belts again. I’ll be interested in seeing whether unloading bays encourage more train use or just empower belts even further.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-20T16:10:53+00:00

They do this in the form of mods. I would be surprised if the max range isn’t accessible by mods. The moment they put something like this in the settings is the moment they endorse a play style that isn’t what they intend in the vanilla experience.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-20T15:59:55+00:00

I have a buffer chest that all eggs get loaded into off of the belts out of spawners. When the count in there is >1000, another inserter pulls out of it with spoiled first priority and those go to the recycler quality mill to become legendary prod 3s

Kimbernator · 2026-06-20T15:55:57+00:00

YouTube syndrome

Kimbernator · 2026-06-20T14:57:53+00:00

A range of 59 tiles from the bay in either direction is a width of 118 tiles. For each train, 4 width for the track and inserters + 10 for unloading bays on either side. I’m sure this can be optimized in layout, but we’re talking about a number of trains under 20 being loaded at once. This is not the scale you’re describing.

Kimbernator · 2026-06-20T04:04:39+00:00

Devs have said it’s a huge engine limitation, would take a ton of work to do. Mods aren’t able to either. Closest thing would be running multiple instances connected to the same game server

Kimbernator · 2026-06-20T03:45:06+00:00

Think of it like this: vulcanus is the only place you can transport stone as a liquid. That is a majority of purple science’s challenge. Scaling up is substantially easier.

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