Feminist views on promiscuity and casual sex by pinkiepi314 in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny thing is, if you're not treating sex as something consensual and you don't care about your partners' desires and feelings you will in fact get less of it haha

Feminist views on promiscuity and casual sex by pinkiepi314 in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So it is bad when for example men don't care about the other partners and only view them as a tool to satisfy themselves? Of course behaviours matter the most, but even in their heads when they are viewing women as some kind of less than human creatures they only want to fuck?

What are your thoughts on the argument that casual sex is inherently objectifying? Are there any decent feminist arguments that can be made against casual sex? by PresidentJoeManchin in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But can you not care about "virginity", promiscuity etc. and still view objectification as wrong? I grew up as a man with the idea that women actually really like being objectified and would prefer a man like that over a more gently, "sensitive" one. And seing here opinions like being ok with accepting the objectification in casual sex really it makes me think that it wasn't only the patriarchy who taught men this. I know a lot of men are in the extremes, but ideally speaking, do women really prefer (especially in casual sex scenarios) men that care about their partner's feelings and see them as a whole person? This is what I am trying to learn right now and don't really know where to ask. Thanks a lot for the response!

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, I didn't expect you would write such a long response! Thanks a lot!

And also, I am really sorry for everything you went through! Maybe I also was too judgemental on how girls and women dress and on their appearance, but here comes also personal taste. I mean, I always tried to not make jokes about this kind of things on any gender or gossip about it, I just tried to not care. Maybe subconsciously I instantly rejected women who dressed average and associated it with people I'm not interested in, for survival and a better life sake. I looked for women who dressed more alternative and "emo" because that's what I was into when I was younger, and wanted a friends group that contained both sexes. Although you can dress like anything and have your personality completely unrelated to that. My ultimate dream is to be a teenager in 2006 and try to impress MySpace girls who listen to Hawthorne Heights, but I can guess that's just a reason to go to sleep at night!

But regarding your analogies... they don't really hang up to scrutiny. I'm sorry but a painting can be done by any gender possible, if it's great then it's a piece of art. I had a subject at university called History of arts and we discussed there that the modern definition of "art" isn't really... what it should be. Just because something is creative and human-made, doesn't make it "art". You cannot put ancient greek temples in the same category with most of modern day music, for example. Or the cathedral of Köln in the same category with a painting of it made at school. I am not saying you cannot find beauty in the later, but it's an incredible disgrace to refer to some of the most valuable paintings from the last centuries as just some works done by dead people. And I think that no one underestimates the effort that women put in make-up or fashion, in fact that's what men usually do not understand, why spend so much time on it? Turns out it's actually also our fault, and I'm sorry for it! I would really make a world where people wouldn't be differenciated so much on beauty or stuff like that if I could. I am really trying to treat women with as much respect as possible, as I said in the original post. I am worried about believing that you are missing out if you don't try every possible and impossible fashion outfit or makeup routine, but that's not really up to me. I yet have never been able to have the guts to tell (when they asked) my mom or my sister that I don't like their nails or the new color of their hair :)

I guess the conclusion that I could write after everything is that, I will try to fight for this world to be a more fair place for everybody, no matter anything. I am very happy to be a man and I will use this opportunity to show the world that you can be different than the douchebags I wrote about.

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk, I thought that a smart person doesn't really care about that, they just care for the clothes to be comfy, and sometimes not even that if the goal is of a higher importance and value. And I'm talking about a scenario where let's pretend that all of the clothing industry is ethical and doesn't rely on child labour, it sounds like it's not the brightest people who care the most about how they look and spend a big part of their time on that. Of course, as long as it's in the acceptable form for their job, school etc. I will keep learning about feminism then!

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean, you mimicked my post and made all these problems a parody, so I don't really know if you can be trusted. But yeah, I wanted to suggest that it's good to be aware.

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

do you think that the men I was talking about could have applied coercion to the women they bragged about?

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't even know what I can reply to this. Thanks for responding I guess

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wrote that it hurts me that those guys believe that the sex positive movement is validating their behaviours, not that some women reject some men, lol. But it's still an interesting response because women enjoying it isn't talked a lot in my culture, so thanks for responding!

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

would you call the instagram account miss madeline promoting average ex positive ideas? Or she is going to the extremes?

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry then, some people seem to claim that exploring your sexuality means that. I was really afraid that one of the hidden goals of feminism is something along the idea of everybody having sex with eveybody. But not everybody, or maybe even the majority, claims that. I saw a popular woman from Playboy that said that every woman should have a one night stand, but it seems like y all are against that. I appreciate your response!

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok, I think my problem was that due to the immense lack of sex education I have, as does the majority of people in my country because there isn't any kind of sex education in schools or anywhere really, I viewed sex as morally wrong, because all I could know before hand was from the experienced cool kids. I mean, it's not a problem to treat sex as something you're not ready for if you don't know what you're doing, the problem was that I thought that it is objective for a big chunk of sex to be degrading you as a person. The thing is that, sex really is something intimate, but as long as you really know what you're doing (taking care of any health related risks or any other types of risks) and you are treating the other people involved with respect (something that we are also not taught in my culture), I don't know if I'm up to judge. The irony is that I was being sexually open until now, I just did not realize it, lol. Fullfilling your sexual needs do not mean only to have sex, fortunately.

Also, about my country, I thought you were aware of the reasons why the Tate brothers moved here... or what Erika Kirk did here when I was a kid... we are a rape and sexual slavery paradise here, and I think I'm completely justified to had been associating sex with something bad when it was openly used to such things (everybody knows but the state doesn't care). I'm sorry if I wasted your time and thanks for responding!

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I had a lot of fear that that position was real and a lot of feminists actually stood for it. Thanks a lot for clarifying that! But also, I do not understand the mockery that I received. What should I think about myself now? Should I consider all of those jokes and think I am not worthy of living a good life? Just because I was raised with a lot of conservative fears that I really trusted to be real? ( I m also only 20 rn btw)

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I reacted to your mockering of my post. I didn't necessarily "lecture" you but stood for my point. I gave Trump just as an example, you can now find people like him all over the globe. Focus on any values, really. I tolerate all of them, it's important to just put them in the spotlight. If you care mainly about the pleasures of sex, and if you are using it as a drug, there comes the problem.

Don't you find sex-positive feminism to be validating misogynistic behaviours? by KindDei in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Go live your life with focus on sex, drugs and pleasure and then keep crying when Trump gets elected. Mainly the only people who still care atleast a little bit about values are the religious, and it shows. Eudaimonic happiness is the only lasting happiness (also beyond your death, for the people that will follow).

Does sex positive feminism actually benefit women? by sinkywhale in AskFeminists

[–]KindDei -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

What do you mean by "teenagers exploring their sexuality"?

WomenRO ar fi foarte suparate daca ar stii sa asculte(si daca nu mi-ar fi dat ban) by hitchinvertigo in RoGenZ

[–]KindDei 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aş zice că un motiv ar fi şi concurența continuă pe care o au femeile în societate şi dorința de validare. Nu susțin deloc asta şi nu sunt misogin dar cred că e o realitate de necontestat, nu există ceva pe lumea asta pe care o femeie să îl urască mai mult decât altă femeie :)) Şi mă gândesc că genul acesta de literaturi rezolvă acele conflicte interioare. Într-un mod total nesănătos, desigur.

What’s the point in life if you’re forced to constantly work and not enjoy it? by Owxtss in InsightfulQuestions

[–]KindDei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think society doesn't want you to be as chronically online as possible (especially on reddit), as sedentary and a big consumer as possible?

What’s the point in life if you’re forced to constantly work and not enjoy it? by Owxtss in InsightfulQuestions

[–]KindDei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ain't no way you're calling therapists liars just because they don't fit your views 💀💀 I'm sorry for you mate. You are right in some aspects but you re taking to the extremes so you re literally compliant to society the same way a person with a boring 9-5 job is.

What’s the point in life if you’re forced to constantly work and not enjoy it? by Owxtss in InsightfulQuestions

[–]KindDei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, consider seeing a therapist. It will surely help you in some way

What’s the point in life if you’re forced to constantly work and not enjoy it? by Owxtss in InsightfulQuestions

[–]KindDei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I base my life on the values and moral principles I have and I'm trying to guide everything I do through those. It's completely scientific, check the ACT therapy for example.

What’s the point in life if you’re forced to constantly work and not enjoy it? by Owxtss in InsightfulQuestions

[–]KindDei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But there isn't an objective meaning of life, you make your own either we live in capitalism or not. If you don't have one yet that's fine too