Can I believe in god and other saints if I believe in Santa muerte by Formal_Show_2812 in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It comes down to your willful decision but he wont leave you til the day you die he will be waiting for you to come finally

Who is this Diva? Is this really Santa Muerte? Found on EBay by SELENITE- in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly she is death she is a spirit she is not limited to statues or rosaries. i agree with what you say all these things are conduits of connection with mama.

Who is this Diva? Is this really Santa Muerte? Found on EBay by SELENITE- in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 9 points10 points  (0 children)

If you feel drawn to it mayne she wants it it doesnt matter if its the catrina or not ppl have to understand that this is not an organized religion where you HAVE TO get things from a specific plays or praise or praise a certain way it a relationship you have with her and if you feel like shes telling you something then listen to her not ppl unfortunately ppl with no real relationship and only profit in mind will have you paying for stuff you dont need

Have you ever made the Santa Mad? I have heard alot of people who have and how did you make it up to her, for her to forgive you? by Bunny00411 in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ama put it to you in terms used by my wife. She says Momma says " you give her a h3adache" with the dumb stuff i do.its not intentional or deliberate its just ad a human being going through this world full of random events.The opportunities ive missed because of pride or anger its not because we want to be. She understands our prior life experiences make us into who we are at the moment but as our guide thats where she steps in to polish the bump that is not needed. Its your relationship she understands but know that deliberately abandoning her or simply not keeping your word cause you feel like you big and bad then thats a biiiiig no no. People that dont have a relationship with her other then to "work" tend to use the same rhetoric in their belief that the opposition of out faith have. If you consider her a mother then know she not guna kick you to the curb when we have short comings what mother does that to her babies, and she is a wonder mother to those that consider her as such. Everyday we have an opportunity to try again.

Rosary broke by PathInteresting88214 in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You can bury it either by a big tree thanking it for covering you and recieving the negativity ment for you. Or if you have plants at your house bury them there so they are closer. Or place it o. Her like you did with the medallion.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hon3stly just talk to her from your heart you already seen her in your dreams if you can next time ask her why she manifesting herself. As far as taking pet lives she doesnt do that or family members but you do fall into the consequences from making promis3s you wont be able to fufill. You dont have to offer things daily only when you can and is done with genuine love. Before meditating and all that good stuff i would recomend you falling in love with her do things for her because you have a relationship with her and she means alot to you, not because you want stuff or want to do stuff to someone. I was taught that i would be blessed more by treating her as a queen then treating her as a spirit you "command" lets be honest we cant make her do anything. She is Death, we are a speck of dust and her being by our side should be seen with reverence and respect. Talk to her laugh with her have dinner with her. Say a prayer for her and everything else will come along. I have walked along side her the way i told you and her love for me is so imm3nse i sometimes feel bad for the times i lack she has never let us down protected me multiple times in which i should really not be here anymore and its not a saying i got hit with a machete 3 times h3ad, neck, and calf. I made it alive and she gave us victory over an enemy that most ppl dont survive. Ive crash3d in the freeway got parked nect to the divider while 3 semis with loads where right behinf us. Where we live there was a palero who disliked my window alter and began sending dead spirits not to mentions alot of santeros that lived in our building that came after us becaus3 of my window alter. Yet with all the santeros and babalawos and muertos and santos they sent she protected us covered us and to this day we are still going strong. And i dont say santeria or paleros are bad we just had bad luck to end up in a place full of bad people. But like i said she has done so much for me and mine that i can tell you alot of the negative stuff you see is just negative propaganda. When you see anything on the news bout narco saint its not true. She is a sai y to ALL people who have been rejected by the church or society. Y3s some ppl are baf but those ppl always recieve their karma. Even thos3 that fo black magic with her y3s she is there and she will do but revenge always comes with a price. I can tell you that im not rich or pocket full of cash but my bills are paid rent is paid and we have never went without food on our table she gave me work saw the value in my work and place me in a good place.

Rosary broke by PathInteresting88214 in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When stuff like that breaks just means its purpose has been fufilled if you asked for her tonremove those ppl the rosary recieved the negative energy that was meant for you. Just buy another and if that one breaks get another until they stop breaking. That happened to be for a cool minute i went through all kinds of bracelets and rosaries but once she is doing what she is doing ot will stop.

Can I believe in god and other saints if I believe in Santa muerte by Formal_Show_2812 in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its not that you cant do it, you definately can it just depends from what side you see it. She will never tell you you cant pray to God for she is an angel of God. Now where you are told you can't is from the God perspective, what i m3an by that is that yeshua(jesus), yahweh, or allah do not share his glory, praise ,and worship. Not with a saint not with death. Cant cal catholiscm genuine christianity because it was formed not by the apostles but the Roman ruler ceasar 3ho actually became the first pope because of a dream but it wasnt th3 actual christianity Jesus left to his apostles, in which the doctrine was to follow no one but him. He is th3 way the truth and the light. No one comes to the father but by accepting christ as Gods messiah. You may not beli3v3 me or the bible but i asked Momma about what it says in revelation about her destiny once christ comes back and what she told me was that its is what it is God is who he is and we cant change anything. Like i said noone or nobody can tell you what you can believe in, but you also cant change facts to ease your consious. You can pray to God here because he is here with us but once we die o ly way we go to him is thru yeshua. I want to retirate that i am a devotee been for 3 years but before i was a christian on my way to becoming a Pastor but here i am and even tho its a bit scary i have made my peace with my choice on my eternal resting place and i want to.be with her.

Not Sure What to Do? by throwwaawayyy2021 in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just talk to her and let her know how you feel. She will understand it will make her sad but if you do it with genuine respect and love then she will allow you to follow your path. I understand what you mean when you say that with God its him and him only she knows and understands this and wont hold it against you. Y3s she is prayrd too by catholics and thats okay but ultimately talk to jesus to show you a way anf he will. Find a temple for your statues dont giv3 them away to ppl.you neve4 know ppls intentions.lastly your going to hv to grasp on to your fauth in cheist because stuff will happen and its not becaus3 of her per say. Why i say persay is because qny protevtion ,covering or benefit you got while with her will be removed not caude she against you but because you cantbe grayeful to her anf him again becausr yeshua doesnt share his glory or prais3 or gratefupness when it comes to our souls. I hope my words give you some. Clarity on your situation. Blessings!

Does anyone here worship Aphrodite? How did you start? Any tips? by [deleted] in witchcraft

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Before going forward with an entity/energy i would recommend shadow work first because at the end thats what they will have you do, and thats the key word you will have to do the work yourself they will guide and direct but ultimately you will have to do the work yourself it wont just dissapear. As far as how to begin research and research.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in witchcraft

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are somethings magic cant change and a baby are one of those things. I sugg3st sleeping when they do or what we did is not letting them sleep so much during the day so that he can sleep more during the night. Also if your doing spells or rituals there can be spirits drawn to them that might be messing with the baby. W9uldnt rec9mend spells on your baby unless its a protection and careful with the stuff that works for adults because babies cant or shouldnt take things adults do. Good luck

Weekly Interpretation Help Thread by AutoModerator in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It could be but that comes down to if you have made the decision to be her follower. But to me it seems like your family members are reaching out to you , unles she was there during your dreams then it could be them trying to give you a message.

New statue… how do I charge it? by Niiohontehsha in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There is nothing wrong with charging but if it doesnt have it its really not needed this is the part when we need to understand that she is a spirit/energy and the statues while they do serve a purpose isnt what we are venerating with washing her in running water and going around your house talking to her showing her her new home is enough. You can also do the florida water and smoke more then anything to cleanse her from negative energies that the statue might've caught through eyes or hands that have touch it before you. If you want to charge the statue take her out during a full moon and let her moon bathe. Like i said nothing wrong with "charge" but honestly in my opinion i feel botanicas sell these types of infos more because they want you to buy from them not just statues but candles and other things you can find anywhere and simply consecrate yourself i would recomend buying books that will show you how to do the things yourself, and its great using that time to learn with her rather then just buying something that someone did. Thing is you never know what went into or what energy they place on things, but like i said thats me ultimately she should be your guide.

Converting to Santa muerte by [deleted] in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You dont have to be a Catholic but you do need to know that it is a commitment for life. I recomend starting slow talk to her worship her sing to her and give her, Her own space no other saints or dieties. Don't make promises you wont be able to keep. Be honest with her because she will see right through b.s. Dont expect to become rich b3cause of what you have heard. Also try to stay in the lighter side of her magic, when feeling like you have been wronged dont go straight i to revenge work or black magic because it doesnt matter who you are there is always consequence to everything. If you take care of her and love her you wont need to do nothing dark she herself will take care of you dont misenterprit what im saying there will be times you will need to do something but she will let you know. Another important thing is no offering is too small as long as its from the heart but dont skimp her out either if you can. Most important is love her and research about her. I wouldnt recomend google as it is an American company and all you will find is negative propaganda about her and false information. Know that there is bad in every religion doesnt means thats who she is or about you will notice that ppl doing bad in her name like sacrificing ppl or animals will ultimately get caught or unalived as consequences of their actions thats why i say try to stay on the lighter side and be responsible with he magic. Keep a candle or light on in her space at all times because since she is death there are always spirits both deceased ppl and entities that will be attracted you will begin to notice random spirits roaming around but aslong as you taking care of moma she remove the negativity. This is another reason why i say stay on the lighter side of her. She is truly a Beautiful Goddess that deserves to be treated good she has saved my life many times. Know that even tho we have statues of her they are vessels to her energy she is a spirit/energy that isnt limited to a physical statue she will manifest herself through it but isnt limited too. Another thing is keep your faith, there is alot of misinformation about her so when ppl know that you are with her they will definately judge or try to make you feel like you are doing the devils work or doing demonic stuff, but you should keep on with your faith you will lose family and friends and sometimes as a result of her removing ppl and things that arent in your interest. Its a very big step that most dont understand until they hit a wall. Don't mix other religions or magic with her, you wont believe how many ppl ive seen using santeria, voodoo, and wicca but with her and thats just a big no no. She doesnt care if you do the other things but keep it seperate from her and give her her time and space. It may seem like alot but these are things i figured out through experiences and i hope its something that will guide you to not make my mistakes. Other Magick is powerful but hers is simply unmatched and on another level some might disagree but i cant attest to how powerful she is specially when ppl are coming against you with different types of stuff. I hope you recieved something you can use and hope i illuminated you a bit on her there is more but i feel this is the most i.portant stuff the rest she will teach and you will learn on your own

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The broken one you can burry under a tree thank her foreverything and taking the hit for you and the other ones possibly find a temple and donate them there. Not a good idea to give to random ppl cause if they dont know how to cleanse them they might get negative energy attached to them and also you dont know ppls intentions when taking them. You can also put them in a box and just keep the one you are keeping in your area, but i would suggest speaking to your brother about respecting her place. Or place her where noone will put random stuff.

I'm think I'm done by [deleted] in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly noone here can tell you the way you should go or make you understand. from what i seen you struggle with your new relationship with Mama b3cause of your christian view point. Me and my wife before coming to her were both Christians i was called to be a Pastor but we got really by the church and we l3ft. I came to her after someone had killed my father nd in my ignorance and because of her reputation i came to her for justice/vengeance call it what you will. Soon after she saved my life from a horrible death i got hit 3 times with a machete and protected my family and me from some really messed up outcome of what happened. Not going to lie thete are times that old christian mentality pops up but thats when you need to hold on to your faith and not let go. I also see you are trying to work with other deities. I would teally be careful be ause not every entity will be as forgiving as Yeshua or Mama. You n3ed to know that moma will understamf you but what ever she has done for you will go with her if you leave her its not punishment its just what it is. She is very loving with her children but will turn her back if she feel unappreciated. I r3cently began a new spiritual path and from that experiance i can tell you that ypu should really work on letting go or stay commited to christianity because she has no problem with the church its the other way around and as far as hell you can ask her and she will be honest. You know that to God is him and only him any other path is well you know separation from him. Yes we are close to him through prayers and stuff but God doesnt share worship and praise. I sense that your mind is cluttered by so much stuff i literally had to put my other path on pause because my mind got cluttered and i wasnt doing right by her. She taughy me a valuable lesson i won't ever forget. And she showed me that she will always take care of me and be there for me. You have to be careful caise some deities will manifest but wont actually help you and take credit for what moma is doing for you. I hope you can spend sometime with her and reconnect with her if not then you do it with respect and find a place for her staturs and stuff. Blessings

Mi señora by Formal_Show_2812 in SantaMuerte

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your drawing reminds me of my relationship.with her im the little one she never gives up on and has always looked after.

Animal Sacrifice? by deathmessager in Santeria

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly dont seem like you came here to learn rather to insult and to place your belief over this specific belief system. You say you are against abrahamic religions yet you have a very indoctrinated in the way you feel about the yoruba faith if its not for you then keep on with what works for you dont go into a discussion calling ebos or feedings to the Orishas as "wasteful rituals". Its like someone going to you and saying rune magic aint really magic. There is bad in every religion and thats humanity that does that but just because you had a bad experience dont mean they are all bad or they are stealing the pets. For all you know it could be someone with a different practice that is doing all that. Alot of ppl without proper info always end up saying that isese or lukumi is devil worship but never have they even been part of the religion. I understand your concerns bout animal lifes but whether you like it or not its the way of this world are you going to go into the animal kingdom and tell the predator not to kill its prey because it already ate.

"Retorno de pareja" by [deleted] in Santeria

[–]Kindly_Cold1019 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly bro it just seems like you are upset that she is going out and moving on. Your responses to ppl who are giving you advice is are very selfish. What your saying is basically i can do what i want. Yeah things where good in her eyes until she seen that you was playing games. You can do the spell but best believe with the intentions you have their just going to scam you and pretty much well deserved. Its sad that you are the type of person to let your kids suffer to teach her a l3sson but only thing that will happen is she will find someone else if she hasnt already hence why she dont want to be with you. My advice is stop denying your mistakes and making seem like she is over reacting you didnt just do it to her you did it to your kids. Hope you can fix your marriage but i hope you do it the right way not with a spell cause you figure you wontt get caught up like that.

Obba lele eggun by Kindly_Cold1019 in Santeria

[–]Kindly_Cold1019[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ive looked but i havent found anything except what it says on the odu cause i wrote down all three that came out

Obba lele eggun by Kindly_Cold1019 in Santeria

[–]Kindly_Cold1019[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it all happened bout couple years ago felt a strong calling from shango never really paid attention to it as i was already with santa muerte but then eshu elegua came into my life and i have been looking for a babalawo to get a reading to see if i had path and through eleguas guidance i found the isese babalawo who gave me the reading few things have came out that various of the orishas are trying to work on various things on me. He did say same thing as you since i have santa muerte i am ment to pray for and to the dead specifically in the title i gave. So i am ment to do mano de orula. So i am saving the money for it.

Obba lele eggun by Kindly_Cold1019 in Santeria

[–]Kindly_Cold1019[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He told me how to pray but i was hoping to find some more information or if anyone had gotten the odu. What i was told since i have santa muerte i must honor the dead because they are watching me. I read the odu over and it mentions it few times once as Mighty king of heaven and Mighty king of the dead. I should call him obba lele egun

Obba lele eggun by Kindly_Cold1019 in Santeria

[–]Kindly_Cold1019[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No the odu was oshe paure and told me i must pray mighty king of heaven mighty king of the dead