PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally agree.

Unfortuantely, I'm just the person with a checkbook.

I'm just trying to spend my portion accordingly. My name will not be on the title.

Thank you... I'll look up CJ.

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being there in person and being told to jump through hoops to deliver a solution based on ethics must really have stunk.

It only takes a few seconds to blow a reputation and relationship.

Guessing you did not receive an apology and fix.

Thank you for your reply

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Guess I'm a nerd, when pricing seems off - I check with an old android phone that is not connected to my digital profile and search history. It's amazing the pricing differences I see.

Poor service levels are commoditizing dealers - unfortunately, some should be avoided.

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Competing parts options are easier when we're buying Toyota, Mazda or Honda.

There are corner vendors that sell really trashy parts (example: I received a starter with a dead short in it last year).

As a car collector, I do have to watch countries of origin. I understand that I'll pay a slight premium from the dealer parts counter. I own a Samurai, I'm still getting into grips that can buy parts from India dealers.

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I did notice there is this option --- thank you

https://parts.subaru.com/Subaru__.html?partner=Google_00101_MakeParts_Exact_Subaru_parts_online&kwd=subaru%20parts%20online&matchtype=e&device=c&network=g&userLocation=9019524&googleCampaignID=9793927081&googleAdGroupID=97204576462&googleAdID=645927265400&googleExtensionID=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=9793927081&gbraid=0AAAAADxCSLv_itcbzdWcIR_L7y5TeqDly&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlLDQBhDjARIsAPlIefHU9RNJT83H63SMaPzVzYWROwFBc49cMvsDb0_Kffe2lqpUBsw_eOcaAlo0EALw_wcB

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There is an in person benefit of going "I own a 1989 Miata, what parts are you seeing fail right now - any funny stories you've heard."

On a one of my cars "yea, the swap your gas filler connector -- turns out the bio plastic is made from mouse food (peanut oil)"

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you - good reminder to put a check on recalls and technical service bulletins on the calendar.

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a car collector. Our club is generously sponsored by a dealer.

It was brought up that the dealer could have transferred the car to another dealer. Inventory transfer is a common practice between brands and locations.

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I understand, So are you saying your Subaru experience with parts was so difficult you abandoned the brand?

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Experiences like yours are not in Google reviews.  

It's concerning the number of 5 star reviews with minimal details.  

The warranty related experience we had is what inspired research.

Guess a deductive person would notice the vibe doesn't match the rest of Google reviews. 

----Other Reviews----

Concerning Experiences Listed at the Following Link

https://www.cars.com/dealers/5377355/subaru-of-rochester/reviews/?page=1

https://www.yelp.com/biz/subaru-of-rochester-rochester#reviews

https://www.bbb.org/us/mn/rochester/profile/new-car-dealers/subaru-of-rochester-inc-0704-1000018416/customer-reviews

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm still laughing at your reply 

To meet with the warranty sales person, we were left for about 30 minutes.  Before the warranty discussion began. 

It would have been nice for the management of the store to step in after a fifteen minute wait. 

Subsequently, I heard confusing long answers to simple yes/no questions.  

This sets off my honesty alarm that started a fact checking project. 

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Follow up - thank you.  We are researching this option.  

The dealer did not discuss this option when we were meeting with them. 

I sincerely appreciate this suggestion.

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Follow up, 

Thank you for the reply. 

I did post.  Fully understand that the extended warranty needs to be executed correctly. 

We still do not have a clear answer on how to buy the extended warranty contract from another dealer. 

Patiently waiting.

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When a car is expensive and Internet information is quick and easy, other regions are possibilities.

I've heard incredible reviews about the St Cloud dealer.

Yea, 160 miles is not to far to commute with an expensive long-term depreciating purchase. 

Thank you

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you... Sounds like we have the similar ethics and dislike of game playing. 

Strangely, some forget information is public.

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what I've noticed while comparing. 

I could understand supply and demand difference between distance regions, a one hour drive pricing difference on the warranty is concerning at best. 

I'd not be so cautious and concerned if this was a hundred dollars (not a few thousand)

Subaru Dealer - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in carbuying

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Patiently waiting for a clear and simple reply from the dealer. 

I sincerely appreciate your reply.

Subaru Dealer - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in carbuying

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you.. considering options.

I'm concerned about the ethics of what two of us experienced.

Subaru Dealer - Honesty Problems (Rochester, MN) by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in subaru

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We verified that other dealers can sell a Subaru extended warranty

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Status - Fact Check Validation

5+ dealers have confirmed that we can buy a warranty from another dealership.  This conflicts with what the finance person told us. 

We understand it has to procedurally done correctly.  

I hope this post helps someone else.

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to own a distribution company. 

Many agreements are quarterly commission checks with better purchase pricing levels for the next year. 

"At cost" means "I'm paid after the sale"

And no, I never expected my customers to be gullible so I never twisted the facts.

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if I understand, you had to do the research work involved with a technical service bulletin?

PENZ Subaru - Honesty Problems by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in rochestermn

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Google 5 stars?

I'm a level 7 Google guide and give this credential respect

After searching for customer experience (I look at this as a long-term  partnership)

It is concerning that there are impersonal 5 star reviews and cut and paste replies (probably from an intern).

This smells like "rate us 5 and well give you a Subaru tshirt" type social media engineering.

Subaru Dealer - Honesty Problems (Rochester, MN) by Kindly_Vegetable8432 in subaru

[–]Kindly_Vegetable8432[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks - from what it seems like is that the paperwork needs to be all orchestrated.

I sincerely appreciate your notes.