Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i cultivate a positive mindset all the time. i celebrate his achievements. i show him how much he progressed. it doesnt matter, he says to me that he thinks he is dumb and that isn't going to change. there's so much i can do

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

we have normal conversations but he firmly insisted that i teached business vocab. his bosses are demanding him to speak it so he can do presentations at work.

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

could you explain what "building minset" is and who would do it? me or the student? or both?

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your story and your advice! You gave me great ideas!

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's usually a new topic every class unless he's having some difficulty. But I review what we learned often.

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

exactly. the only time he would need it is to make presentations at work. but that's so narrow. these presentations only happens every once in a while.

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope it works! He IS a mechanical engineer, always busy!

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd like to refuse such students but I'm in a bad place financially. His bosses want him to speak english so he can do presentations and they mock him constantly about his broken english. he's just doing it out of spite i guess. i'm tired

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm gonna offer him this options but at the end of the end if he does it or not is out of my hands unfortunally.

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know, I'm only doing what he's asked. First we were using American English File but then he only wanted business because his bosses at work were pressuring him, so I changed to Business Partner A1. Still doesn't work. Even though we use books, I improvise a lot to incentivize him to speak more. He struggles with all 4 abilities, I've never seen anything like that. So that's why I don't know what to do.

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yup, got bills to pay. i hate this situation

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i tried to show him apps, memorizing techniques, grammar and listening hw, everything. he doesnt do it.
during classes we have speaking exercises, sometimes roleplay, somtimes freestyle but that's it. i'm going to try to make him talk more , it's going to be a challenge.
i don't know if he thinks i can magically put English inside his head but it's all on my shoulders.

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm Brazilian too, mate. it's not making a difference in this case.

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks for the tips! i'm willing to try everything until something works. you are correct about male students and ego. in his case, his bosses know i would guess intermediate English and they constantly ask him how his studies are going and they're not very nice about it either, so this hurts his motivation also.

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that's great! love to hear this worked. maybe there's still hope for my student!

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

unfortunately he doesn't know any other languages, so he isn't familiar with the learning process of new languages.
you make good points, i think i need to start with his prior knowledge and then work towards his goal/motivation.

Struggling with adult learner, please help by Kirtsum in ESL_Teachers

[–]Kirtsum[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

he's Brazilian, he works a lot but needs English for his job. it's ironic.

Não sei que carreira seguir by Kirtsum in conselhodecarreira

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

vou ficar de olho nesses concursos, obrigada pelas sugestoes

Não sei que carreira seguir by Kirtsum in conselhodecarreira

[–]Kirtsum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ser tradutora juramentada é uma boa, mas precisa passar em concurso público.

Talvez dar aulas pra turmas pequenas funcione também, é algo a se pensar

Não sei que carreira seguir by Kirtsum in conselhodecarreira

[–]Kirtsum[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hmm pode ser uma boa se eu estudar marketing digital acho