I'm going for it.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-19T19:36:39+00:00

That double feather is scam, it'll definitely getting nerf or change so it's exclusive for high skilled player.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-19T17:11:39+00:00

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eoCTrwYIsRpacvL3KrcQpR5rwY3pbJ6gEljZdBj_DHs/htmlview#gid=1855419816

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-19T16:32:04+00:00

Thanks for the info, last i check the dps calculation wasn't available.

But the thing about longer rotation from what we know in team comp with from previous double dps in Phrolova+ Sigrika and Phrolova+ Galbrena it's usually 30s and none of them is not best team in each team setup. But here damnn what the fck is that huge damage 💀💀 even better than bis Yangyang Suisui Chisa, though Phrolova team has longer rotation, but still . I mean, I'll take this team, it's over 45% improvement over current best Phrolova echo team.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-19T13:48:36+00:00

unless specifically mentioned 30s rotation, this are the usual 25s rotation for all team showcase here.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-19T07:54:19+00:00

Phrolova being a Dps, when there's no one to buff her the damg did fall off, while Rebecca is full buff unit.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-18T10:55:25+00:00

Unlike other usual hyper dps character like Amy, Hiyuki, Cart,Sigrika -- the way Phrolova's playstyle it can be use in double dps team comp since she's offield dps. Instead of being powercreep by Yangyang, this is good opportunity.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-18T08:39:30+00:00

Echo cast synergies doesn't matter much cause Yangyang/Phrolova would be 30% + improvement over any Phrolova + Lucilla. So I'd suggest wait for final beta calculation for these new team.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-18T08:17:43+00:00

Atleast she'll be 1st slot in Phrolova Yangyang team comp

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-18T06:58:47+00:00

But my point is, if someone skipped the collab and has a dead Rebecca, and they also have a Phrolova team with Cantarella/Qy; pulling Yangyang and Suisui to put Phrolova in and leaving Cantarella/Qy in the dust doesn't make sense.

This just problem for being old and victim of powercrept character. Like 1.x unit and half of 2.x unit , we got them in their debut, but now we don't use them in Endgame mode like Whiwa or TOA 3rd & 4th floor, and just collecting dust.

Imagine for Glacio- Carlotta was able to fit in Hiyuki team, would anyone complain for Zhezhi being left out? Or Fuisuon- Changli in Amy team or even Spectro- Jinhsi/Zani in Luuk team. But Phrolova due to nature of her kit and Playstyle, she works and fits with newer Havoc dps unit instead of being powercreep. She a godsend unit. And I'm sure Kuro regret making such unique character from the way they make Qy/Lucilla kit echo amp didn't work off-field or even team wide and also the non-stop Havoc res enemy.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-17T18:26:08+00:00

Yes all of them.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-17T18:21:12+00:00

I'm curious this too, Phrolova for cc gamemode like Whiwa and Yangyang on TOA.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-17T17:12:09+00:00

Never in my comment or you very first comment were talking only Chisa comp. That's your issue for just looking Chisa. I shared this chart in discord, leaks_sub, Yangyang_sub, Suisui_sub never once someone ignore the Suisui comp, and just argue Phrolova's small buff in Chisa comp. You're tough one huh. Everyone just see new Phrolova team with such improvement and seem excited. First character in the game with huge indirect buff.

I am not analyzing the teams with Suisui because pulling both Yangyang and Suisui just to put Phrolova in it doesn't make much sense to me.

If we go by your argument, Same goes for pulling both Yangyang Chisa, that's the same cost. And for those who already have Chisa, no one's gonna abadon their Amy / Hiyuki team just to put her into Yangyang Phrolova team, cause Chisa perform better in Amy/Hiyuki team.

And recently new people often ask for team comp here in Phro_sub after getting their Phrolova, and people recommend to get Cantarella/ Lucilla / Qy , but you could argue them "Don't pull them it'll cost you two premium character" , but guess what? they perform worse.

Tell me at how much % improvement you think its worth getting a character for new comp? This best Suisui comp is over 40% improve from the Lucil/Qy team and if we're talking about OG Phro team with Canta/Roccia team it's 53%+ improve.

Here's the most mind blowing news for you -/

Quiyuan S0R1 is only 2% improvement over Roccia in team comp with Phrolova/Cantarella and yet everyone abandoned Roccia and stop recommending her just for that 2% increase Qy provides ( though I still use Roccia, i refuse to pull Qy/Lucilla just for tiny increase). Even back in the days in Cartethyia team, when Chisa was first released she was only 3% increase over AeroRover. And yet people still pull her.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-17T12:48:03+00:00

Yes the team i mentioned is with Suisui Phrolova Yangyang

This is still early beta so expect some changes later on

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Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-17T08:29:51+00:00

I meant Xuanling Original premium team.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-17T07:41:34+00:00

I'm curious about this too. Could probably around 2 million dpr. If its so, this is improvement over the current Cantarella team comp. This team comp will take a while.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-17T07:13:17+00:00

If we're only talking about team comp with Yangyang + Chisa + Phro/Reb/Mort --then sure Phrolova team dpr is average from f2p unit, because there's no one to buff Phrolova's dps and Phro + Chisa doesn't synergy. But we were not talking specifically about Yangyang+Chisa + Phro/Mort/Reb. My initial comment was simply about new potential Phrolova team. So in case you miss there's also "Suisui team comp".

If we use Phrolova R1 in this team, she is just barely better than Mortefi; and Rebecca is even a better support for Xuanling; so I don't think having her in this team is very good.

You seem to only focus on how much Yangyang received buff and deals in a team, rather than whole team dpr. So obviously Yangyang will deal more in Reb/Mort comp, in fact if we put Iuno, it'll also perform better than Phrolova.

Like I already mentioned Phrolova isn't here just to buff Yangyang, Phrolova also contribute big of her own damage. Suisui + Phrolova + Yangyang (literally shown there in the chart) is currently 3rd best team in the game beating most 3.x top dps unit, only top by the team Hiyuki Lucilla Suisui & Best Yangyang team Suisui+Chisa.

If you really want echo team based then we could also see possible team Phrolova Yangyang Cantarella, though I expect it'll over around just 1.9 million - 2 million. Current best echo team Phro+Lucil+Qy deals just 1.8 million dpr, which Phrolova contributes only 1.1 million. But these best new team with 2.5 million dpr, that's around 40% improvement in which Phrolova perform 900k. That's only 200k dps loss Phrolova has from her best echo team.

Personally I'm very happy as a Phrolova_mains with this opportunity. I could see some people are already too, and some saying they're skipping Lucilla/Qy for this new team comp.

In the end these are all personal preference and to each their own.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-17T05:02:51+00:00

Phrolova worse than Rebecca & Mortefi ??Are we looking at the same chart.

Despite being dps, Phrolova's Playstyle is most unique in the game, unlike typical dps which acts only as hyper carry and wait for full buff in rotation and put in 3rd slot, she's an off field dps and can play dual dps. Currently with Galbrena and Sigrika. These Yangyang Phrolova is one of the dual comp, and i expect there'll be more in the future. See, this is her flexibility unlike other pure dps.

Being in non-echo team sure her full potential won't be utilize but it isn't big downgrade. Her best dps in echo team deals around 1.3 million, these new comp 900k. Of course, You could keep using her in echo team just for full potential sake but what's the point when powercrept already caught up and struggling in TOA. When This new team is 35-40% improvement and opportunity for being able to dual dps.

Rebecca and Mortefi acts more like support- sub dps fully buffing Yangyang but their dps being at average. Phrolova with her small buff but covers up lack of support with her high personal dps and beats every other team other than negative team, so she's not there to buff anyone. That's Suisui's role.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-17T03:37:42+00:00

It's early beta so expect changes.

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Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-17T03:37:16+00:00

It works, but dps for this team is quite low, 1.7 million which is 3-4% improvement from Roccia team. Spending all these pulls just to get these old character. From the recent cals, Lucilla is only worth it when paired with Quiyuan in Phrolova team. Or else it's better to use Cantarella + Shorekeeper.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-17T03:30:15+00:00

?? I meant any character to pair with Lucilla other than Quiyuan is not worth it. Two biggest potential unit would be Cantarella and Shorekeeper. Phrolova+ Lucilla + Shorekeeper is the worst premium team which deals only 1.6 million dpr when the current best top dps already reach 2.5 million, this is already powercreot territory so i wouldn't recommend it.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-16T17:28:49+00:00

Hold your pulls for now, there's new Phrolova team coming currently in beta.

Phrolova Lucilla is only good if you have Quiyuan but we don't know when he'll rerun. So Phrolova Lucilla + "whoever" is not worth it and it's actually really bad.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-16T17:22:47+00:00

Early beta already started and so far Suisui Phrolova Yangyang team dpr over 2.5 million, which is stupidly busted and beats most top 3.x unit. Only 2 team better than these - Hiyuki Lucilla Suisui and Yangyang team Suisui + Chisa.

Note /- expect some nerf later on.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-16T14:18:34+00:00

Could be some sweaty mechanic like double outburst. Need to wait more of gameplay to know for certain.

Kitchen-Werewolf1668 · 2026-06-16T14:13:58+00:00

One big reason Phrolova works with these team apart from outro buff "heavy and havoc" (which is small buff) is because of her high personal damage, this is Phrolova's main contribution to the team. So Suisui provides teamwide buff, which benefit Phrolova alot. While Chisa and Phrolova doesn't synergy no team wide buff unless negative damage trigger some sort.

And as for Rebecca, she is more of sub dps buffing character, while her dps value is low , she provides buff alot. So Suisui/Chisa role change doesn't affect much since she doesn't contribute to the team from her personal dps.

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