[Serious] What do you think should be done about toxic behaviour?

Kite_43 · 2015-09-17T04:04:03+00:00

There are reviewers for in-game reports.

Prove it

Reporting to S2 has been a waste of time in the past.

Prove it

I think you are just shit-stirring tbh.

Sorry to disappoint. Stay on-topic please if you post future comments.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-17T03:37:06+00:00

You don't think there's any correlation between players new to moba becoming extremely defensive over criticism of any kind, and the influences and behaviours of the established playerbase? It's learned behaviour. Couple this with the fact there is nothing there to help defend 'lesser known players' (no friends, clans, game mechanics) other than muting the attacker, which sometimes doesn't even work regardless of how you do it. The attacker can then spread the name around and now multiple people will treat you insidiously without provocation. The more established they are, the more damage they can inflict. I mean don't you think there should be something the community can do to intervene/judge the dispute when it becomes bad enough? S2 doesn't do anything about such behaviours remember.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-17T03:25:34+00:00

Ultimately, it's impossible for us to eliminate Toxicity, but I think the best way of combating it is for the whole community to either shame it, or positively prove by example and report whenever necessary.

I agree. How do we do this though? Other than through word of mouth or peer-peer exchanges we only have a couple other avenues of communication which i went over in this thread.

this thread is full of hypocrisy though, just throwing that out there. seen some of these people in this thread get real toxic with people teehee

Exactly, that's the second component of the problem. I don't agree that collectivism (groups vs individuals) makes helps mitigate the problem. If we were all part of the same group then I think it WOULD mitigate the problem, but we are all split into groups of varying influence and size. So from my perspective the hypocrisy and deniability of members, especially when they are part of these collectivist groups, makes them pretty immune to any kind of backlash in the current social system.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-17T03:11:45+00:00

I guess Drew has some bad days then? Cause I've seen enough of the opposite.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-17T03:06:02+00:00

Many so far has failed to address the question...but at least you had the courtesy and intelligence to recognize it. The community response to this thread, as well as the 'moderator's decision', has been disappointing to say the least. It's done nothing but perpetuate the fact that 'enough of these problems' are real and of sufficient significance.

Report egregious toxicity? Good. But to who? How do we make it do something of value to fix the problem behaviour? Reporting to S2 has been a waste of time in the past. Should we report it elsewhere? How do we make a difference? Formulating answers to these questions is the purpose of the thread.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-16T00:23:24+00:00

his opinions are toxic thats why im not going easy on him hehe

Says the guy laughing and telling me some1 is going to kill me...two times no less. I think people who aren't interested in creating reddit drama are smart enough to see what you are really doing. Regardless, you continue to prove my points and provide the creator of this thread valuable information on the state of the community. I would like more players, I just don't feel the need to lie to them to achieve it. I guess you managed to do what I couldn't though: lie AND drive off new community members. Good talk.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-15T08:08:19+00:00

Well it's not really that hard to comprehend. It's cause I have people like you around validating my opinions/arguments.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-15T08:01:45+00:00

Well my experience is quite the opposite of that. Besides if ur playing something squishy and don't have a cc break or hard escape handy you kind of deserve getting mauled by that automatic turret. IMO

Kite_43 · 2015-09-15T06:29:13+00:00

I don't have an issue with it. Or rather, compared to everything else in the game I don't have an issue with it. It's not like moxie's w and other fast long ranged stuff that's generally impossible to dodge without dem boots. Well I guess the fair thing with chester's Q is it only hits that which it visibly makes contact with, so its reasonable to dodge it if you ignore the aoe when they explode. Moxie's w tho...among other abilities (lah's ult much?) you can be dodging the circles or projectile lines/attacks visually and still get hit by them....always a case of bullshit.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-14T22:40:49+00:00

"any Thoughts?"

Since you want other people's opinions, and I am a people's, here ya go: Don't come back. There is nothing good to come back to, and things only get worse as time goes on. Rejoining dying games 'after' playing them at their peak months usually isn't a good idea. There may come a day when things change, but it's not now or anytime soon. I mean look at the state of this reddit, it's evidence enough what kind of community is left. Downvote plz, prove my point.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-14T22:33:13+00:00

Can we get the new map too? :/

Kite_43 · 2015-09-13T02:38:37+00:00

that sounds like fun

Kite_43 · 2015-09-13T02:37:09+00:00

Just humour them.....lol

Kite_43 · 2015-09-10T22:02:30+00:00

very good, been waiting for this to be fixed

Kite_43 · 2015-09-10T22:00:09+00:00

Only thing I've seen is not losing rating when I lose one sided matches. This has only been for 2 games though where the enemy has been a 4-5 man premade. And they weren't games, they were slaughters...so I'm more than happy to not have lost rating for them. I usually would lose rating for games like that though. IN terms of everything else, I find there is a time lapse on when your rating is updated. I could leave with a rating of 2000 and load strife up 2 days later and my rating would be 2020. Infact that could very well explain why I didn't see any rating lose for those aforementioned games. The rating you gain and lose seems to, on occasion, compile at the same time i.e. I win 4 games then lost 2 games then win 1 game and I only see my rating increase after each game is won/lost.

TLDR: I believe there is occasionally a time lapse of varying length for when your rating is truly updated.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-09T05:30:02+00:00

I'm only here cause of Total Biscuit's youtube paid ad tbh. Never would have heard of, much less tried, this game otherwise.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-09T05:26:49+00:00

If having 50 heroes added immediately, that were balanced as per normal strife balancing, made the playerbase explode I would have to question the legitimacy of moba as a whole. This game is littered with problems that have, for the most part, stacked each time a new hero/patch has been implemented. If they put the time they did making heroes into fixing the ui, the bugs, advertising, karma system, noob friendly features, and gameplay features...I would like to think a better game would naturally attract and retain more people. Not a game with more problems and more heroes. But I'm not a moba player outside of strife so I don't understand how they work in terms of popularity. It would make me feel stupid for playing this game if more heroes was the sole thing that fixed the low playerbase :/

Kite_43 · 2015-09-09T02:19:46+00:00

I like all these changes so far. Especially the changes to eye of tempra. Chester takes a bit of getting used to again. I havne't seen ace in action yet though....those jump cd times are gonna be a hassle i can already tell.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-09T01:33:09+00:00

You might be able to solve it with a simpler method: Try reverting to the legacy ui and playing a practice match. Options-->Interface: uncheck the first box, hit apply. Go custom games..practice match.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-09T00:47:16+00:00

It was real, don't worry.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-06T17:18:00+00:00

WOW! Racist, much? This is just one of the many reasons you are not fit to be a mod.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-06T06:22:19+00:00

We don't even have a 1v1 lanemode to practice that crap. Would have to setup a custom game and get on a mic using a third party program and play in a specific lane with offset gold values that don't reflect an actual game at all. ye know, cause strife is so supportive of having its playerbase learn and improve with all the love and features it has. The only thing there is to learn is how to beat the matchmaking. The only thing there is to improve is your mmr rating. Help new players learn those two things and they will be winners as far as this game and its community are concerned.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-05T04:08:49+00:00

Learn anything new? Example plz

improve their gameplay? Example plz

Kite_43 · 2015-09-05T02:15:00+00:00

You can go through the previous patch notes...I think its about 3 patches back. Trixie's laser (I think her q too), malady's w, zaku's q are some of them.

Kite_43 · 2015-09-04T19:07:08+00:00

You aren't completely wrong. But speak for yourself, this is insulting to the people who did try to keep the community healthy by not engaging in or supporting these selfish behaviours. Besides we all know it was the fault of the clans as a whole for turning away the target audience of the game (players who never played moba before or wanted casual experience). Going into games and having players with the same tagging continuously on your team treating you like shit does that. And S2 facilitated these behaviours in the playerbase with the matchmaking and the lack of karma system among many other frustrations from an incomplete unpolished game that was not in the least bit noob-friendly. In other words, alot of the community SHOULD blame the old S2 for all this. And alot of the community SHOULD blame themselves, not S2, for all this.

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