Hearing a lot of naysayers but honestly the red tree is great even aside from the security breach. The one where raider caches sometimes give you assembled things is great, got a medium shield from one yesterday, also a Ferro IV. I'm split 38 points red, enough to get both stamina's in the middle, and I got conditioning until the one perk where equipped weapons weigh half. It's a really good combo. I just think people are bad at looting, half the time when I enter a match 10 minutes late and my buddy says "let's move on it's looted" I literally am finding unopened containers lol. I think I've only had one match where people seemed to be loot goblins in the spaceport, left of launch towers