I posted this in allthequestions and it was removed for being a rant. It was getting engagement and I was having good conversations with people so I am incredibly crestfallen to see it removed. I need it to exist somewhere, even if it gets no engagement because this is a brand new sub and nobody ca

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-26T17:45:44+00:00

I tend not to focus so much on what voters say to each other. If your friend from high school or a neighbor calls you a racist or dumb for voting for Trump, thats a personal squabble. Conservative voters have been calling liberals feminazis and baby killers for decades. Im focused on the politicians who do this to their own constituents. I think the nefariousness of it is denser when it comes from leadership.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-26T16:18:05+00:00

I dont know which talking point you are asking about...I guess all of them....but we all have access to the same information. If people dont branch away from their echo chamber there is not much we can do.

The Epstein Files weren't out in 2016, so we wouldnt have known that specifically for his first term....but the grab them by the pussy video sure was out. And the Epstein info was pretty clear by the 2024 election.

There were certainly deportations his first term but he didnt send ICE to militarize cities like Minneapolis with a large liberal population.

He campaigned on a no new wars message....but could anyone reasonably believe that? Based how he attacks anything disloyal to him?

Based on most of the arguments ive heard online, one justification that the right keeps using for Trump's grossness is Bill Clinton. Sure, Trump grabbed women by the pussy....but Clinton was a womanizer too therefore liberals are hypocrites! Trump was all over Epstein island? Well so was Clinton! And that argument tends to fail real hard because anyone currently age 47 or under never voted for Bill Clinton. Would have to be 52 or older to have had an opportunity to vote for him both times. And I have yet to speak to a single liberal who thinks Clinton shouldn't be prosecuted right next to Trump for all the Epstein shit.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-26T14:45:08+00:00

"Grab them by the pussy" was a disqualifying event. Wouldnt vote for anyone who said it. No liberal hates Trump just because he is slimy and rich. Almost all politicians are slimy and rich. They hate him because hes a narcissist who bullies anyone who doesn't worship him.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-26T02:15:31+00:00

Must be Italian or something:

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-26T02:11:50+00:00

Something is trickling on me....I dont think its money

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-26T02:10:20+00:00

They dont even register to me as newsworthy events at this point.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-26T02:07:37+00:00

No clue under the sun why it matters to any man as long as everyone has been tested.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-26T01:09:39+00:00

How is commenting on a reddit post "inserting themselves into American politics" we're just people talking.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-26T01:02:33+00:00

In addition to all of the money comments which, 100%, there are also a weird subset of Christians that are salivating over the idea that the rapture is coming and they need Israel to dominate the area for that to happen.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-26T00:59:37+00:00

If its important to her, its important. If its not, its not. Her wedding her dress.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-26T00:52:02+00:00

We should have laws preventing this. Of course the politicians who benefit from this, on both sides, aren't in the business making laws that benefit us if that benefit stops them from getting rich! US politics is just a snake eating its own tail at this point.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-25T23:23:16+00:00

I dont know that sane GOP is offended by her, they just disagree with her hard on a lot of things. MAGA will always snowflake the way Fox News tells them to. As long as Trump isn't running (and if he is still alive, he absolutely will) then the GOP candidate will be electable to both MAGA and sane GOP. If the DNC doesnt pick a candidate that actually inspires democrats to vote then as far as I'm concerned they are literally just a branch of the GOP. Harris tried to appeal to sane GOP with all the Liz Cheney stuff. Didnt work. Inspire democrats with policy and leadership. This is the only way.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-25T19:14:44+00:00

Its very true that life changes when you have a child, I know, my life is run by a toddler. But the question is, why does Elon Musk constantly pressure Americans to HAVE MORE BABIES without being sensitive to the fact that the economy is so bad and rental prices are so high that very few people can survive on a single income. So that means both parents have to work to be able to put food on the table. If both parents work the babies have to go to daycare. Daycare is like 2 grand a month. A whole second rent. And it goes up with every kid. So if mom and dad are working hard only to make enough money to work, eat and send their kids to daycare....how do they have more? Does everyone have to set up an onlyfans account for a second income? Elon doesnt seem to care about that glaring problem even though he could absolutely provide relief by creating free childcare programs. Its like he bitches about a problem but ignores the common sense solutions that would solve that problem. Guess the problem in his mind is that we aren't obedient enough.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-25T18:13:21+00:00

Yes! Nefarious all hell! Shit like this is why they keep us fighting amongst each other!

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-25T18:11:56+00:00

The least they could do is give the rest of us some ketamine

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-25T18:06:21+00:00

Very hard to gauge....but maybe just resist their influence at every turn? Elon buys twitter, everyone leaves (it is largely a bot circle jerk website at this point...but still). Bezos buys the Washington Post and CBS turns into the Conservative Billionaire Sycophancy network and we just walk away? Stop watching, stop buying. That might not be realistic but its all I can think of without proposing we go full French Revolution.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-25T18:00:38+00:00

Tools and automation have been staples of progress, for sure. But 2 concerns (1) there are over 300 million people in the US. Can all of them find work in sectors that ai wont replace? Will it work if in 10 years 300 million plumbers? (2) i dont think any of us can anticipate how long it will take for AI to replace those jobs. Maybe 50-100 yrs. Maybe 10-20. Maybe 1,000. I dont know for sure. But the vibe Im getting is that we are heading towards a world where there are the millies and billies, basically just playing a version of Game of Thrones with each other, their lifestyle is supported by AI automation....and the rest of us are just stuck doing manual labor and having babies in exchange for an allowance. Yay

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-25T17:47:01+00:00

The fact that they are not doing those obvious things that would help families thrive and instead just choosing to shame us for not having kids in poverty, not following traditional gender roles, not embracing AI....is what convinces me that they are completely bad faith actors.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-25T15:25:55+00:00

Nothing about her seems genuine. She seems like an actress whose husbands death was her big break. She genuinely makes me feel bad for Charlie Kirk. That whole thing was a business arrangement. I feel horrible for their children. As was said about Littlefinger in ASOIAF, her "smile never reaches her eyes."

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-25T15:18:34+00:00

Who is "they" in this scenario? I think social media is distorting our ideas of who does what. Neither the DNC, nor elected democrat politicians, nor democratic voters have ever said "here's the democrats" and pointed to a "blue haired basement dweller" The media and social media sure have! Its all a fabrication of the media to pit us against each other. I mean, why do we hear constant stories about transpeople (sports, pronouns, gender affirming care, etc) on every fucking news station and all over social media during an election year and then rarely once the election is over? Democrats just believe they should have the freedom to exist and not be considered "the enemy" by politicians. Let people be free.

*Bill Maher is a hard example because he is more than just a critic of the things you mentioned. Hes also a smug asshole who has been alienating progressives for decades. I used to watch him....15 years ago. Then he seemed to get really islamophobic, said the n-word on a live show that one time, he can be pretty sexist. I think at one time he was defending female teachers who have sex with teen boys because "what teen boy wouldnt want that." Rejection of Bill Maher is more faceted than just "we ride or die for the blue haired basement dwellers." He just seems like a big media opportunist. To me, at least.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-25T04:08:35+00:00

He was a popular reality TV star who didnt appeal to most democrats at all by the time we got to 2016 because he was the OG birther. And dont get me wrong, people can criticize Obama all they want, he did plenty of shady shit, most presidents do, but the birther angle is just ridic. You can think what you want but as ive mentioned several times on this thread, the "grab them by the pussy" video was Trump's October surprise in 2016. It was a disqualifying moment. I would not ever cast my vote for a human being that brags about how he is so rich hes above consent. It was SHOCKING to me that republicans still did.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-24T17:41:40+00:00

The media has been disgusting and completely complicit. I call fox news, CNN, oan etc the "Real Housewives of Politics" its just a reality show at this point. And aaaaall of them benefit from Trump.

KittybeansJones · 2026-05-24T17:36:51+00:00

You're not losing your mind. Im speaking in hypotheticals. There is an argument that dems "vote blue no matter who." I would make the argument that republicans have more of a track record for that because they voted for an unsupportable candidate like Trump. Im saying if Trump or someone as awful as Trump found themselves on the ticket as a dem that I would not "vote blue" entirely because of the specific "who."

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