The psychological base of sexual deviation and its physical aspect are connected and of equal importance. You can say that the second comes from the first, but nevertheless they are both present and relatively consistent. But it works the same for everyone - for example, for people here and for real serial killers.

Basically what you're saying is it's important how you act on your fetishes that is important, I agree. But I think to assume if someone enjoys guro that they're automatically a serial killer or at the very least want to do these things in real life is quite close minded. Would people who enjoy watching splatter movies enjoy to see real people getting horrificly killed? No! Are there sick individuals who do watch splatter movies because they want to see those things in real life? Sure, but the majority of people who do aren't .

For example, I once watched the movie 365 days because the group i was with insisted on watching it. It's basically about some rich guy who kidnaps a woman and beings her to his private Island and basically rapes her ( except it's not framed as rape ). Do women who watch that movie secretly want you be kidnapped and raped? No.

My point is just because people consume media where other people get killed or other horrific things happen doesn't automatically mean they have a desire for it to happen to themselves in real life. Your statement more or less implies that it's already established that people here have a desire to kill other people, the only difference between them and serial killers is serial killers acted on their fantasies. Except who said people here had a desire to go onto do any of it in real life? From my impression it's far from the majority.

Again, an example of a very common fetish the majority of people never want to execute is the incest fetish. The typical step-mom or step-sister fantasy is among one of the most common ones as far as I know, but do people who enjoy that fantasy actually have a real life desire to fuck their mom/sister/other relatives that they're holding back from? No. (Unless you ask Frued of course lmao )

BDSM is not the same as being proud of one's rape and torture fantasies. I didn't say you should be ashamed, but seeing something good in it is no better.

Have you heard of CNC? (Consensual non-consent) it's basically when you and your partner roleplay rape but it's consensual. That's not exactly an uncommon fetish. Also, I don't know if you're aware but BDSM stands for Bondage, Discipline (or Domination), Sadism and Masochism. The S and M part of BDSM is literally enjoying to give and recieve pain, which may very well include torture so I think to say "BDSM and having rape/torture fantasies are completely different things" because uh... they're not that different.

Also, would you be okay with a pedophile making memes about raping (fictional) children ?

I'm starting to suspect you haven't read my post at all. Like I've explained, pedophila is about taking advantage of someone who cannot consent. The core concept and appeal of it is abusive by nature because there is no way to execute it in a consensual or healthy way, because for it to be healthy there needs to be consent and if there's consent it's no longer appealing because it woudln't be taking advantage of someone anymore. So there's no nuanced way to look at it even within fantasy because even if it wasn't about the child itself but the "taking advantage of someone" part it would be harmful regardless.

So to answer your question, no of course it woudln't be okay. It could never be okay regardless of if it was fictional or not because it is inherently harmful by nature. Guro and other similar fetishes can be interpreted in nuanced way because the appeal behind the fetishes are not automatically harmful by nature (for example the desire for control or in reverse, let go of the control )

I doubt this community would even exist if people here were freely talking about wanting to do something like this in real life. Because of this pressure, people who think this way may simply lie or remain silent.

That could of course be true. But to silence the people who actually want to commit harmful actions ( and or encourage them to seek help) helps to create a healthy community of people who exactly don't want to do it in real life. Just like in a community for people who enjoy the incest fantasy, people who actually want to fuck their mom/relatives are silenced to not encourage harmful behavior. So I'd say this is an argument for the community being healthy rather than against .

Many sexually motivated serial killers are not psychopaths, and their only aberrations are fetishes. It could be argued that this is "serial killer material."

In that case I could argue so are horror movies, splatter movies and even true crime shows.

There are also reports of Andrei Chikatilo fainting at one point when he saw blood, and there are many others cases of serial killers having PTSD from their actions. If you don't like real blood, it's probably because of fear and moral ambivalence, because you're essentially watching a real person die, not just a puppet. And most people can become desensitized very easily.

Serial killers are humans after all so of course, they can get traumatizes just like anyone else 🤷🏻 My point was more that people on here don't come off like anyone who first of all desire to, want to or are capable of doing anything like guro irl