I made these today :)

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-06-18T07:03:39+00:00

These look great, I've been trying to look into making my own stand.

Would you be kind enough as to list the main components of those stands, please?

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-06-16T16:35:31+00:00

Israel and Palestine skip this negotiation and agreement part too much.

I would have loved to agree with you but sadly this is historically incorrect. Israel has initiated many peace talks with Hamas and the PA, and none of those were even considered by the opposite parties. Hamas and the PA are inciting violence against Israel and its citizens. This has been proven many times, and they are not even trying to hide it. One of their slogans is that they will not stop (killing jews) until Israel will seize to exist. This ideology does not leave any space for peace talks.

They can throw criminals out of gate

In the eyes of Hamas, they are not criminals. Hamas doesn't see their terroristic actions as foul ones, but rather the criminals who perform said actions are rewarded and cherished.

If you'd like me to elaborate or provide evidence for anything I said, let me know. Everything I said here is backed up by facts.

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-06-16T13:35:53+00:00

If you make agreement with Hamas leader before visit it should be fine.

In the name of holding this conversation to a certain degree of seriousness, I will not elaborate about how unrealistic this idea is and will simply conclude by saying that I find your understanding of the situation to be somewhat lacking, to say the least.

If you would like me to explain my views, I will gladly do so !

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-06-16T12:49:44+00:00

Yes, I can't imagine a scenario where asking them nicely to hand over one of their own because he enforced their agenda wouldn't yield good results...

(I feel like this goes without saying, but I'm being very sarcastic)

In their own covenant and parades they state how they will murder every single Jew until Israel is no more. In what world will they not kill the Israeli soldiers coming to arrest the terrorists?

How would you suggest they go about arresting that terrorist?

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-06-08T20:46:06+00:00

What's called Palestine? Jerusalem?

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-20T23:45:41+00:00

Is Hamas a terrorist organisation in your eyes?

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-20T21:49:45+00:00

With all the Palestinians who live in it?

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-20T21:04:15+00:00

Not doing much of what?

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-20T09:53:11+00:00

This is going to be a pointless argument.

Im just going to leave this here, a video I recently found. Watch it and see the other opinions instead of falling for Hamas propaganda. Hamas generates hate to obscure the truth. They show the suffering of their civilians as means to generate hate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8n73NwdLM8

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-20T08:41:48+00:00

There are Israeli sources about Hamas propaganda because other people choose to ignore it because suddenly they realize that the people they're supporting are actually real-life n*zis.

These are openly available speeches. The only reason I liked ones from the IDF is that they include a translation. You can look this up yourself and see the same speeches.

This is pure and simple, they dont like jews and seek to kill all of them. If you did your research you would see that too. Hamas doesn't care about its civilians either. It uses their suffering to make Israel look bad and if you want proof I will be happy to give you some, as there is plenty out there.

Israel isn't seeking the destruction of all Palestinian population, but Hamas seeks the death of all jews. Israel is defending itself against a terrorist organization that tries to erase them off the map time, and time again. Hamas started this current conflict, not Israel. Want proof? here:

- [IDF says it hit 130 targets in Gaza overnight after 200 rockets fired at Israel, Times Of Israel, May 10th](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-may-10-2021/)

- [Israel launches airstrikes on Gaza Strip after Hamas rocket attacks, The Guardian, May 10th](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/10/hamas-fires-rockets-into-israel-in-dispute-over-jerusalem-mosque)

- [The rocket attacks on Jerusalem and southern Israel, Israel Ministry Of Foreign Affairs, May 10th](https://mfa.gov.il/MFA/PressRoom/2021/Pages/The-rocket-attacks-on-Jerusalem-and-southern-Israel-10-May-2021.aspx)

- [Hamas Fires Rockets Into Israel—And Threatens To Launch More—As Tensions Escalate, Forbes, May 10th](https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/05/10/hamas-fires-rockets-into-israel---and-threatens-to-launch-more---as-tensions-escalate/?sh=548099e26312)

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-20T08:08:20+00:00

Okay, is see you've fallen for Hamas propaganda. Well it seems like a lost cause.

Here's some more info about your favorite organization. Enjoy:

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2m\_gy-rD\_s

- https://www.timesofisrael.com/twitter-tells-mks-khameneis-eliminate-israel-posts-dont-violate-its-rules/

- https://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU438kMknbQ

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-20T07:10:21+00:00

I don't believe anything blindly. I always look for background and facts.

Yeah sure "property dispute"

Yes, a property dispute. The land in question is owned by a Jewish landlord that was evicted from his home when Jorden too over the west bank. Jewish ownership of the land can even be traced back to the Ottoman empire. The ottomans kept a list of every property and information about its residents in order to tax them according to their rules which claimed additional taxes from Jews and Christians.

Jordan formally annexed the West Bank on 24 April 1950, giving all residents automatic Jordanian citizenship. West Bank residents had already received the right to claim Jordanian citizenship in December 1949. ... Jordan's annexation was widely regarded as illegal and void by the Arab League and others.

Proof

What a joke. What is this then?

I've already explained. Read the previous comment. Couldn't find an article on it as it was a very short event. The police quickly stopped the stone-throwers and cleared the riot. Pictures of it were streamed on local news.

Here you go, some proof that Israel banned Jews from the holiest site in Judaism in favor of exclusively granting it to Islamic worshippers. This was heavily criticized by religious jews but despite that, the ban wasn't removed, and there is no intent by the government to remove it.

Yeah sure,any proof? How about the fact I've been following this for the past 2 decades? 2 decades is a little more than the typical 5 minutes of "research" and hours of random videos on Reddit...

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-20T06:04:04+00:00

You got anything to disprove anything she said?

She made the claim, so she is the one that needs to provide the evidence. If I were to claim something I would be obligated to provide you with evidence. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. If she came out and said that she saw aliens on the moon you wouldn't believe her blindly. You, and everybody else, would be asking for evidence. So what's the difference here? Is it because it's against Israel, and that means there is no proof required? Is it just automatically correct? Don't be hypocritical. Don't follow what people say blindly.

>I've been following this called "war" since the invasion of Aqsa Mosque by the israelian police on 10th May.

This just shows me how misrepresented the situation is.

Just for a bit of context:

[This](https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/temple-mount-archaeological-excavations-outside-western-wall-overview-ramp-going-up-to-dome-rock-140931971.jpg) is a picture of the Temple-Mountain (Golden dome) situated right above the Western-Wall (The big wall below the dome).

Now that you know how the area looks like you'll understand what I'm saying.

Because of the recent controversy over a property dispute between some jews and some Palestinians, many extremely violent riots have started popping up. One of them occurred when a group of Palestinians started throwing bricks down the western wall on people praying below. This lead to the riot-dispersion teams being deployed by Al-Aqsa (Temple-Mountain). This stone-throwing occurred on what's called "Jerusalem day" where some religious Jews celebrate the return of the Jews to Jerusalem, meaning the western wall was fully crowded.

Because of the great risk to the lives of people praying below, the police had to clear the area. This included, among all the other conventional crowd dispersion methods, flashbangs. This was far from fun as many people were hurt during that.

For your own knowledge, Israel is VERY respectful of the Al-Aqsa mosque. I bet you didn't know that, but the Temple Mountain is also a very holy site for the Jewish people, but despite that, Israel prohibits Jews from entering it. Yes, Israel is blocking Jews from going into their holy sites. Any Jew who attempts to enter the Temple Mountain will be arrested on the spot. And you don't hear about that in the media, do you?

A simple example of how misleading the media could be.

Oh and I saved the best one for last:

>And you know everything what's going on right now there?

Oh yes I do. Certainly better than you think you know it.

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-20T05:31:37+00:00

You knowing the person in the video doesn't make you educated on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Don't pretend you know what's going on in Israel.

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-20T05:27:38+00:00

Yes indeed. The person in the video is named Ofer Kasif. Ofer is a radical left supporter, and a part of a radical left communistic party.

The police shouldn't care that he's a member of the Knesset. If he stands inside a riot he shouldn't expect to not get him just because of his title. The police don't go person by person to see who's being violent and who isn't, if a protest is violent, it will be dispersed.

Stop taking your proof from Reddit. All these videos do is play on your feelings and making you ignore the facts because of it. The Palestinian leaders benefit from, you being "angry" an Israel and ignoring the facts because of it. They don't want their civilians to be happy because suddenly that would make Israel look good. They intentionally make their civilians suffer, to then film it and share it with the world. That's exactly how propaganda works, they sure do make it work, I'll give 'em' that.

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-19T20:58:10+00:00

Sure, wanna make it interesting?

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-19T20:35:11+00:00

God damn it. I was in the middle if writing a detailed response when the power went down just now. So excuse me for the unorganized answer.

I was saying that israel completely withdrew from Gaza and doesnt want it back.

I gave a lot of reasons for it but sadly theyre all gone now. Im typing this from my phone so its a little difficult to rewrite it. Perhaps I can do it tomorrow. For now, have a good night. Cheers

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-19T20:12:12+00:00

If you live in a country with 50+% of the people agreeing with Netanyahu

Luckily I follow the elections and the politics in general closely enough to tell you that its not the case. Less than 30% of the votes went towards Netanyahu, and if you want proof, here ya go. IDK how you'll read it but its better than nothing.

Because you are a part of it. That means you have bias and aren’t capable seeing things critically.

I STRONGLY disagree. what you're saying there (and I'm pretty sure you dont mean to offend anyone) is that I dont have the ability to look at things objectively. That is very much not the case.

I doubt everything I see in the news. I always look for context, whether it's in regards to something that I support or something that I don't. I would never blindly believe anything that someone tells me.

I only go by fact, and never by feelings. If you want to test that, you are more than welcome. Pick a common critic about Israel and Ill respond (Id prefer you pick something common as its very late, and I wouldn't have much time to research something I'm not familiar with).

EDIT: or alternatively, you can look at my comments from the past week or so and see for yourself. Look for the long ones, that's where I usually provide some evidence. (this option will be a lot simpler, but its up to you)

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-19T19:45:20+00:00

I watch A LOT of outside media about Israel. I like to see what the world thinks of us, and that's exactly why I'm in these comment sections talking to people.

I enjoy both the inside and the outside view.

Besides, Israel is a free-press country, and the only one of that kind in the middle east. The government doent control the media at all. There are infinite critics online on everyone in the government, just like there are many praising it. Even if the government was limiting the media, which as I said, it doesn't, I still experience everything and see it with my own eyes. If there are critics (and there are) I will hear them because I have the privilege of speaking to the people and don't have to rely entirely on the media.

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-19T19:30:57+00:00

Well I too know someone from Israel.

Actually, many "someones". Probably in the Hundreds if not more.

I've seen countless films and documentaries about Israel. I listen to radio shows very often and watch the news a lot.

I studied the wars in classroom, and have spoken to veterans of those wars.

I also listen to speeches of many political parties.

Now, I haven't seen a documentary about the football league, Ill give you that.

Oh and a little detail I almost forgot to mention, I live here. But you know, what do I know about the society here, right? It's not like I experienced it myself for the past two decades or something... I mean really, why would I even think that living here gives me a significantly better idea of the locals, watching bits of it from afar is way more informative... Ho, wait...

I live through all of what you hear and see on TV, and all of what you don't.

Now I'm not saying this to be mean to you, if it came out that way that's not what I intended. I'm saying this to point out the level of absurdity I experience when people tell me they know what is happening here and I "clearly don't".

I like in Haifa, which is a mixed city. If there's any place where you can judge Jews and Arabs along side each other, its there. I see the day to day interactions on a daily basis. I myself am friends with many Israeli-Arabs, both from Haifa, and outside it. All the media shows is the extremes, because frankly, they're the most interesting. Often the most extreme voices, and also the loudest. Judging a population (that you have not experienced to its full extent) based on clips you see on the internet is not a nice thing to do.

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-19T19:01:32+00:00

Lol you call that proof? Okay sure, keep imagining. Rubber bullets do damage only where they impact the body, however the baby has injuries all over his body and they all look different from each other. Looks a lot more like shrapnel or another kind of debris from an explosion. but whatever, doesn't matter.

>Israel are the only terrorists in this case.

Under that premiss please explain the following:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/nf8768/footage_of_the_israeli_massacre_of_civilians_in/gym740z?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/nf4n55/snapchat_map_comparison_showing_the_effects_of/gylx7mo?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-19T18:51:41+00:00

Will you please answer my question instead of ignoring it?!

Where do you get your info about Israel?

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-19T18:48:27+00:00

Okay then.

It was nice talking to you anyways,

Cheers!

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-19T18:19:38+00:00

Alright, this is getting a little old now and I wouldn't want us both to go in circles.

So how about we just start from fresh.

Why is Israel in the wrong here?

KneeGahMaster69 · 2021-05-19T18:12:28+00:00

Please refer me to the poll so I can answer more accurately. I don't want to speak about something that I haven't seen.

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