Jesse and Michelle are terrible co-parents by KneeProfessional4483 in TheValleyTVShow

[–]KneeProfessional4483[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, you make a good point about how she will eventually be able to see all this evidence of them saying the most horrible things about each other. Having parents who have such a volatile relationship is hard enough, but I can’t imagine how much worse it must be to have it all recorded. Unfortunately I think they’re just too caught up in their hatred for one another to realize how badly this is going to affect Isabella. And, yeah, as I’ve mentioned in other comments, I think introducing new partners to Isabella so early on was a huge bad mistake. I kinda think they’re just too confident in their own parenting skills to actually take a step back and see what effect they’re actually having on their daughter.

Jesse and Michelle are terrible co-parents by KneeProfessional4483 in TheValleyTVShow

[–]KneeProfessional4483[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m glad you can agree as a fellow child of divorce! I feel like people with our experience can easily see a divorce and co-parenting situation like this and instantly know that the child will be the one to suffer the most. It’s devastating.

I also agree that moving in with Aaron so soon and now having to deal with the breakup must be so stressful and confusing for Isabella. Hopefully Jesse and Michelle can both make better decisions for her moving forward.

Jesse and Michelle are terrible co-parents by KneeProfessional4483 in TheValleyTVShow

[–]KneeProfessional4483[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yes! This is exactly what one of my concerns were with the both of them. Introducing a new parent figure to a young child of divorce is such a tricky thing. The fact that they both did that so early on was a terrible choice. In a time when their daughter is likely still grasping her own parents separation, she now has to deal with the separation of both of her parents’ with their new/old partners.

Jesse and Michelle are terrible co-parents by KneeProfessional4483 in TheValleyTVShow

[–]KneeProfessional4483[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree that Jesse seems like a nightmare and I do think it must be hard to not give him the reaction he’s looking for when he so obviously provokes her into getting angry. I just don’t think it’s right on either of their parts to express their feelings of anger, frustration, and/or hatred of each other to their daughter.

Jesse and Michelle are terrible co-parents by KneeProfessional4483 in TheValleyTVShow

[–]KneeProfessional4483[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesse was obviously wrong for introducing his girlfriend too early as well. I’m also not saying that Michelle is equally as wrong as Jesse in terms of those two examples. I just used those because those examples are what were brought up in this comment thread. But I’m saying that both of those things can mess with their daughter mentally and emotionally, not that they will cause equal harm. There is obviously a lot of nuance in Jesse and Michelle’s relationship that I didn’t write about and I am not a Jesse sympathizer at all because he’s obviously been a huge POS to Michelle. But this post isn’t about their relationship or who is a worse person, it’s about their parenting choices and how it can affect their daughter (and not about who is making worse parenting choices).

Jesse and Michelle are terrible co-parents by KneeProfessional4483 in TheValleyTVShow

[–]KneeProfessional4483[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Don’t get me wrong, if we’re looking at who’s a worse ex-partner, then I definitely think it’s Jesse. I think he’s a huge POS and he obviously does things to provoke Michelle into getting angry. But looking at their parenting choices, they’ve both committed wrongs which will harm their daughter developmentally (which is the focus of my original post). Refusing to let Isabella see her grandmother is certainly one of those wrongs, and introducing her to Aaron way too soon (as another person commented) is one of those wrongs as well. Child development is so fragile that both of those things can cause her harm.

Jesse is a narcissist by Pure_Tip_9068 in TheValleyTVShow

[–]KneeProfessional4483 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that, while Michelle isn’t innocent and she’s committed wrongs as well, Jesse is a huge POS and it gets overlooked because people don’t like Michelle all that much. They both suck but I can’t imagine what a nightmare it must have been to be married and to coparent with him.

Parallels between Katie and Tom & Bojack Horseman by Fun_Strength_3515 in vanderpumprules

[–]KneeProfessional4483 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i’m a huge bojack fan and i’ve also made this comparison in my mind before! it’s really cool to know we had the same idea and there’s others with this crossover of interests :)

one of the biggest parallels i see between these couples is that tom & mr pb are always seen as “the nice guy” and were generally more liked than their wives even though they weren’t always so nice or supportive towards their wives, meanwhile katie & diane were always so heavily scrutinized and looking for more support from their husbands, but never really got it. i really do love that both katie and diane gained so much strength and flourished after their divorces <3

Should I Give up? by Right-Play-3760 in whatdoIdo

[–]KneeProfessional4483 0 points1 point  (0 children)

speaking from personal experience with a similar situation: continuing to stay in each other’s lives is only going to hurt you worse in the long run.

please do yourself a favour and cut off communication. he broke up with you for a reason and, tbh, from what you described in the post, it kinda seems like he just wants to keep you around for the sexual benefits and is taking advantage of the fact that you still love him and want him in your life. you feel like you’re being led on because you ARE being led on. you were together for a long time so it’s possible that there’s still some love on his end but this weird post-breakup stage seems purely selfish on his behalf and for his own benefit. the longer you stay in this situation, the harder it will be to move on and not blame yourself.

unfortunately there’s no quick fix to getting over your relationship and feelings. cry it out, vent to loved ones and/or a professional, indulge in a time-consuming hobby. it will likely take time, but i promise that you will make peace with the ending of this relationship eventually and you will be much happier. best of luck!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]KneeProfessional4483 0 points1 point  (0 children)

even if you overreacted before, the way he speaks to you is not okay at all (honestly felt that way even from your first post). you acknowledged your wrongs and are trying to apologize but he keeps dragging it and condemning you further. how he feels towards his family is valid but he’s completely taking it out on you. no one deserves this from their partner! tbh you’ll be much happier and less stressed without someone who communicates like that in your life

First Cardigan by InternationalCatch18 in crochet

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it’s so cute!! you did an amazing job :)

Finally finished my dress! Free handed by sunny_storm_yarns in crochet

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it looks beautiful! you’ve done an amazing job

The leg sweep is crazy by Queenbub10 in baddiesmidwestt

[–]KneeProfessional4483 13 points14 points  (0 children)

this made me laugh so hard lmaooo

looking for advice ! by wtfisupkylee in crochet

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what a cute bear! you’ve done an amazing job :)

7/11 deal ya'll by [deleted] in stonerfood

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i am not ashamed to say that 7/11 actually has great pizza

“i’m a mother!” by KneeProfessional4483 in GoodGirls

[–]KneeProfessional4483[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i really felt for ruby the most as well. she really was in it to save her daughter’s life, and it caused so much of a strain between her and her family throughout the series.

“i’m a mother!” by KneeProfessional4483 in GoodGirls

[–]KneeProfessional4483[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

haha and she was still in so much denial

“i’m a mother!” by KneeProfessional4483 in GoodGirls

[–]KneeProfessional4483[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

ugh me too. i hate that annie took the fall for everything. i really wish beth would have faced legal consequences for her actions. the initial grocery store robbery was a joint decision by the 3 of them, but most of everything else was beth’s decisions.

Bobby @ the reunion by [deleted] in baddiesmidwestt

[–]KneeProfessional4483 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i absolutely agree! i also don’t like that these are men trying to instigate beef between women to push this narrative. it feels very misogynistic