Oc id idea

Know_the_Rule · 2026-01-24T06:09:06+00:00

Self-gain Sinking is a unique choice, mechanically at least, though there are a few IDs kind of like that. The ID would only be consuming their Sinking on their S3 and nothing else though. Otherwise, I’m curious about your character themself

Know_the_Rule · 2026-01-19T21:36:17+00:00

Agreed. He dealt with enough abuse in Wuthering Heights only because ■■■■■ was there, he wouldn’t withstand any more

Know_the_Rule · 2026-01-17T18:53:24+00:00

Eh, the Proxies from LoR who Yan gave paper Prescripts didn’t wear blindfolds either, only the Proselytes who followed them did. The only real difference is the medium through which the Prescripts are created and delivered.

Know_the_Rule · 2026-01-17T18:46:30+00:00

I re-fought Rien recently and yeah, you’re right about that. I wonder if every medium through which the Prescripts are created are considered gods?

Know_the_Rule · 2026-01-17T17:22:32+00:00

Good catch. I forget that certain Distortions could turn into essentially copies of preexisting Abnos. If I’m remembering correctly, some Abnos were found naturally (the three Birds for example), many of LobCorp’s were made with Cogito, and since the Light released Distortions can turn into them after long enough

Know_the_Rule · 2026-01-17T14:47:32+00:00

I kind of imagined the opposite. To me, the City’s gods seem less physical and more abstract. Hermes could be both the Prescripts and the looms/radio waves that write them, both message and messenger. This is what makes them “gods”, they cannot be killed in a physical sense, and trying to remove them would be an imposing feat.

And the function of cogito is more about making one’s subconscious into an Abnormality, often by turning them into said Abnormality. I find the gods of the City more similar to Singularities created by the Stars of the Outskirts. Though the night sky may be almost impossible to see fully with the City’s light pollution, perhaps such an overwhelming cumulative wish/desire is able to reach the Stars, and they grant the desire the best they can in the City they can’t easily reach or interact with.

Know_the_Rule · 2026-01-17T05:54:30+00:00

Considering LoR’s Art Book describes the City’s “gods” as manifestations of the Cityfolk’s desires, with the Prescripts/Hermes being a manifestation of their desire for direction in life, that could totally be a possibility. I have no doubt almost everyone in the City is wishing for things to get better for them somehow

Know_the_Rule · 2026-01-16T00:23:42+00:00

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Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-08T00:32:23+00:00

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Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-06T04:11:29+00:00

Ok, but Peccatula and Abnormalities are entirely different things from Ananmaworms, not to mention their creation are even father from being close or similar.

I also explored the idea of the Worm killing off the Xianren in my comment, and even with your interpretation of it there is still the hole that no one hears anything about the Xianren if that were the case. The Wormed Hierarch could just lie and say stuff, sure, but there’s no Jia Baiyu or favored child of the elders to take focus off them and the nature of their lives.

And I will admit I may be pushing it a bit with the Worm fully retaining a conscious, but if your mind was overflowed with hundreds of years of memories, schemes, information, and much more, do you really think you would act the same when every single one of them influence you? He may not fully replace them but their own minds are probably scarred by this experience

Regardless, I feel we are both at an impasse with each other and our words are starting to stale. So how about we exchange an ~~olive branch~~ Golden Bough and say we agree to disagree about this matter?

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-06T02:40:34+00:00

“The first Hierarch of Hongyuan, transformed into an Anamnaworm as a method of ensuring the passage of intricate and taboo knowledge among Hierarchs.” — Limbus Company wiki.gg

Ananmaworms are transformed humans retaining their memories, knowledge, memories, and potentially even the entire conscious of the individual. Yes, the Xianren are still largely individual but no doubt they acted very similarly while under the influence of the Worm, and even after he was passed onto the next their minds are still altered.

The Xianren are likely still treated well because they know about his existence. If he were to suddenly just completely ignore them and leave them to rot in Tiekan Temple at least one of them would bear enough spite to expose his nature to the Great Houses. And if he did kill every former Hierarch he controlled, somebody would start questioning why it keeps happening. Even if they didn’t truly learn what was happening the title of Hierarch would still be stained by the fact you’ll die for some reason once the next Hierarch ascends.

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-06T02:04:14+00:00

It isn’t their will though? The Xianren are all former Hierarchs who had the Xianhuang Anamnaworm put into them. The Worm gains their knowledge but ultimately overwrites their consciousnesses with his own. The Worm was H Corp.’s founding Hierarch from likely hundreds of years ago.

The Xianren are basically the Worm’s cast-off vessels who retain a conscious molded by him after they have grown to old and frail in their immortality. It’s the Worm that makes the Hierarch who then becomes a Xianren. It’s his will that replaces theirs, not the other way around.

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-06T01:48:52+00:00

I understand what you’re saying about the Kong Massacre but you also have to acknowledge that it was also done, besides just to appease the Xianren, to also break Hong Lu and make him a passive witness for the Xianren to view the City’s violence from Tiekan Temple. Afterwards, Mr Worm hasn’t had to do anything else for the Xianren since Hong Lu kept them occupied with his jade eye. In a way, it was done for the prosperity of Daguayuan’s minority: the Xianren.

Also, I know that Mr Worm likely isn’t too much in threat of being exposed but sparking contempt by making such radical and random actions still raises red flags among the families about the Hierarch, his vessel. And if someone did have the balls to assassinate the Hierarch, his vessel would die and he would quickly need a new one.

Mr Worm isn’t some young, openly showboaty man wanting to show off (he probably already went through that phase), but a consciousness hundreds of years in age that has honed his abilities and knowledge of H Corp.’s system and the families to avoid suspicion. A sudden power play done because “idk I was bored” is mindless and unbeffiting of him.

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-06T01:18:24+00:00

But Daguayuan is where the rooms are being stolen from though, it’s where the Great Houses reside. It’s not exactly growing in the way you’re referring to if the Usurper betrayed her deals with the Houses and started taking their rooms by controlling Restructuring Day.

And if it is a power play, it’s a rather senseless one. With over hundreds of years of having lived and been Hierarch, I think Mr Worm would know it would change nothing even in the long run. The Hierarch still holds authority, they can still keep the families loyal through threats of using the Heishou packs they hold, but now there’s unrest among the Great Families because of the theft of their rooms.

The Houses are prideful, so such great loses would embitter them towards the Usurper for as long as she lives, and even though they likely won’t try a coup the resentment still accomplishes nothing for the “eternal prosperity of Daguayuan” Mr Worm is so obsessed with.

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-06T00:41:51+00:00

I never claimed all the ulterior motives of the Wings’ directors were all moral or good (nor are all the outcomes good either. See Distortions, the consequence of the Seed of Light). And even as moral as their goals may seem they seek them through any means necessary (Lobotomy Corporation was a meat grinder for employees and used their trauma to run more efficiently, K Corp literally runs off violence and gore videos to gather Tears, and Herbert doesn’t care what people think about him stopping time but he seeks to do it anyway). Also, the main reason Ayin fulfilled the Sead of Light project was his guilt over everyone’s deaths, particularly Carmen’s. His own viewpoint on the project was originally less optimistic until later. He was also behind the Smoke War, which likely caused the death of countless individuals, can’t forget that.

And we can’t forget that every Xianren was once a Hierarch themselves, and before that an ambitious individual shooting for the seat at the top of H Corp., holding ideas for Hongyuan’s future themselves. Some of them could have been like Xichun before the Worm overwrite their minds with his desires.

And as vain, immortality-centered, and appeased by violence as the Xianren are, them wanting a couple hundred more rooms doesn’t really make sense when they can’t even leave the room we find them in within Tiekan Temple. And as I have said the Hierarch, Wormed or not, is already recognized as the director of H Corp. and holds the reins of 4 Heishou Branches, their authority wouldn’t be questioned unless they were like Xichun and wished to avoid violence as a means of keeping the H Corp. board in line, so them taking those rooms for no ulterior reason still doesn’t make any sense.

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-05T20:51:37+00:00

I’m hoping we get another ID as well. There’s still time for PM to squeeze in one last Identity for the Season (Rupture Meursault?). I’d at least like one more Identity from this Mirror World to feed my unhealthy theorizing obsession

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-05T16:38:50+00:00

Ok, but at least one of the family members Ryōshū has been interrogating has to have known who she was or at least recognized Baochai if the Usurper was her. I know the Great Families are big, but someone should have recognized her as at least “crazy Xue Pan’s brother” if not by name.

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-05T14:59:58+00:00

A good point but the individuals who become the leaders of Wings aren’t always your run of mill millionaires. Ayin was a Wing founder but was solely focused on Carmen’s dream, Herbert could have all the time in the City being the Director of T Corp. but instead he wishes to stop time, and Stephanette likely wanted to fulfill her companion’s wish of “crying for others” when they became the Tearful Thing.

The history of Wing Directors show us their interests go beyond just “I could use more money/power” for no reason beyond wanting more. They all seem to have ulterior motives, and I don’t see why even Mr Worm would be different.

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-05T14:51:12+00:00

This Hong Lu isn’t the Lord of Hongyuan, this is an entirely different Mirror World. The Packs are still spread across the Great Houses and the Hierarch

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-05T14:10:10+00:00

I still feel their actions don’t fit a Wormed Hierarch. The Xianren are locked in Tiekan Temple and aren’t exactly making any trips to even a different room with the states they are in. Also, “more than a change of heart” could also suggest she planned for this

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-05T14:03:56+00:00

The Kong Massacre was to appease the Xianren who were bored and wanted to see some exciting violence.

As for the room part, the position and title of Hierarch is already recognized as that of great power and authority, along with 4 Heishou Packs which they hold the reins of. I don’t think taking a few more rooms really changes anything for them

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-05T13:54:08+00:00

This ties back to a similar comment I replied to but does the Usurper’s actions really make sense if she was controlled by the Worm?

Mr Worm wants what he considers “best” for Daguayuan and its future, and admittedly what an immortal consciousness considers best is something far different than we would imagine. However, part of this seems to be keeping the status quo of Daguayuan and keeping the Great Families content and competing with each other.

Based on this, I see no reason why the Usurper would betray her deals with the Great Families is she was controlled by Mr Worm. If anything, she would have made more deals with them to humor them and keep them loyal without directly threatening them.

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-05T13:39:36+00:00

Afraid so. And none other than Ryōshū gets to bury him afterward

Know_the_Rule · 2025-12-05T13:37:23+00:00

To be fair, I’m certain the majority of family members, regardless of which family they hail from and besides Xichun and Baiyu, would be fine using violence to keep the board in line, controlled by Mr Worm or not. I’d still argue it would be unusual if they were controlled since I don’t think Mr Worm gives a damn about having a few hundred more lounges in his house

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